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Pacers coach Frank Vogel fined for planting seed in refs’ heads

May 12, 2012, 7:57 PM EDT

Indiana Pacers head coach Frank Vogel complains to an official during the second quarter of Game 1 of their first round NBA Eastern Conference basketball playoffs against the Orlando Magic in Indianapolis Reuters

There will be no working the referees through the media before the series starts.

That is what the NBA essentially said when it came down Saturday with a $15,000 fine for Pacers coach Frank Vogel less than a day before his team opens the second round against the Heat.

Vogel started trying to plant a seed in the officials minds last week when he said the Heat flopped more than any team in the NBA, adding:

“It’ll be very interesting to see how the referees officiate the series and how much flopping they reward. . . . Every drive to the basket they have guys not making a play on the ball, but sliding in front of drivers. Often times they’re falling down even before contact is even being made. It’ll be interesting to see how the series is officiated.”

It might be a price Vogel is willing to pay if he gets a few calls. While his team is better than people think he’s and the Pacers are going to need every break to go their way to have a real chance in this series.

The NBA was passing out other fines on Saturday:

• Atlanta’s reserve big man Ivan Johnson was fined $25,000 for flipping off some Boston fans during Game 6 of that series. Yes, Ivan, Boston fans can be obnoxious, still can’t flip them off. Even when they deserve it. Just one of life’s many rules.

• Hawks co-owner Michael Gearon was fined $35,000 for suggesting that Kevin Garnett is a dirty player. Hate to tell you this Gearon, but this isn’t libel and truth isn’t a defense. Here are the exact comments:

Last night, we are playing this old physical team. They are old. I know what happens when you play basketball, old guys foul. [Kevin] Garnett is the dirtiest guy in the league. We are playing Boston last night and they had two fouls the whole first half. We had five times that and we’re athletic.”

KG said those comments fired him up and were behind him dropping 28 on the Hawks in the closeout Game 6. So well done, a fine and you got your team eliminated. That’s a hard to pull off daily double.

  1. professoressadiesel - May 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    Frank Vogel just said what most people are thinking.

    Basically, everyone that’s not a Heat Fan.

    • stoudemelo - May 13, 2012 at 5:46 AM

      Or most people who actually know the game of basketball. Blake should join those idiots

  2. rodge1 - May 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Right, because no one else flops… Every player on every team flops. Yes, I mean your team(s) and your player(s).

  3. Mr. Wright 212 - May 12, 2012 at 8:28 PM


    And if I see ANOTHER Heat stan with this “everyone else does it” mindset — only the CLIPPERS spend more time doing it. There’s a difference between a flop once in a while and someone on your team doing it on both ends of the floor EVERY TIME DOWN.

  4. rodge1 - May 12, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    @Mr. Wright 212

    Ok, you’re right. Only Miami and Clipper players flop. Nobody else, especially whichever team you’re following this week.

  5. marlin1894 - May 12, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    Start the whining Indy fans and Heat haters. I promise your defeat will be quick and nearly painless.

  6. sel056 - May 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

    Lebron’s shameless flops all year long, and especially against the knicks when up 20 points while crying and whining to the refs have made me forever detest the guy. My opinion, you dont have to agree with it. Hes not a man.

  7. raidmagic - May 12, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    There is a HUGE difference between flopping and selling a call. It’s just a shame a guy can’t speak honestly without being fined.

  8. 1972wasalongtimeago - May 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    Let him talk.

    • southbeachtalent - May 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

      My thoughts exactly.

  9. jayinatlanta - May 13, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Wow, this is a new one on me. An owner fined for calling a player dirty. I join Gearon in being pissed: calling 10 fouls against the Hawks in their home stadium in the first half, and 3 against the Celtics in the same time period, was one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen.

  10. ohnothatguy - May 13, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    Wow!! So much respect for the pacers coach!! Finally someone has the brass to say it like it is!! And whoever doesnt think the nba will do everything in its power to get lebron to the finals is a fool! Nba became the next boxing you can start smelling fixed games! If a snitch didnt tell abt donahey fixing games the nba would never have known! Of course the nba wants ratings so the refs will call everything for lebron till he gets to the finals!! Just look at the knicks series!! And im not even a basketball fan but when the nfl draft gets bigger ratings then the nba playoffs or finals you know they will make sure their biggest star is involved so they can scoop up the extra profit! They should have stu jackson and david stern at every heat game so them refs are on their tip toes with their calls and the second the refs start favoring calls the heat way like they do once cry baby james starts complaining they should be yanked!! And for anyone who thinks that some1 with 0 rings is better then some1 with 6 your pathetic and have no realization about anything! MJ,Kobe,Magic & Bird could give a dam of they the mvp of the reg season!! They are abt the rings and mvp of the finals!! If the heat win it this year its all thanks to the refs and the nba and nothing more! Hope OKC & Durant get that ring bc they deserve it! Not the alien and the little whiney crybay who needed help to get over the hump! Cant say nothing abt dwade bc he just great and oh yea already has a ring! And a finals mvp!!

  11. mungman69 - May 13, 2012 at 6:23 AM

    Oh, come on. Every team flops, some more than others but every team is trying to get any advantage they can. I’m surprised the the coach got fined but so be it.

    • rosesacl - May 13, 2012 at 7:22 AM

      vlade divacs has an nbc sportstalk account…. sweet.

    • abchome - May 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM

      Very true!

  12. cmehustle - May 13, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Wow not sure I remember Phil getting fined and Ill be dam if he didnt invent talking up fouls before every series.

  13. xli2006 - May 13, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    Reporter just asked Stern “Vogel had a beef with Flopping and was speaking out about it, what do you think about that?”

    Stern responed “I would have fined him more”.

    What? Is he serious? A coach speaks oit AGAINST flopping and Stern wants him punished harder instead of addressing the issue.

    The NBA can do much better than Stern. He seems somewhat oblivious to the true negatives of the NBA (Attendance, Revenue Gap, Poor Ref Performance, and Soccer-esque Flopping).

    Replacing Stern would be a spark for the NBA. Something it could desperately use.

  14. lucky5934 - May 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    Abuse power much, Mr. Stern? How has someone not taking this guy’s knees out with a baseball bat already?

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