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	<title>Comments on: Cuban says new labor agreement forced Dallas changes</title>
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		<title>By: astrosfan75956</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 00:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Odom really screwed Dallas this season, go back to being a kardashian PAB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odom really screwed Dallas this season, go back to being a kardashian PAB.</p>
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		<title>By: lakerluver</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lakerluver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 22:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1 hit wonder!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 hit wonder!!</p>
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		<title>By: sprest83</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 20:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This was not his only option. He might have been able to keep Chandler and others on shorter deals by selling them on making one more run.&quot;

Donnie Nelson and Cuban have both been on record saying they offered Chandler a one year and a two year deal.  The one year deal was for $20 million...but Tyson wanted a longer commitment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This was not his only option. He might have been able to keep Chandler and others on shorter deals by selling them on making one more run.&#8221;</p>
<p>Donnie Nelson and Cuban have both been on record saying they offered Chandler a one year and a two year deal.  The one year deal was for $20 million&#8230;but Tyson wanted a longer commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: chargerdillon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chargerdillon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was Shaq, Kobe, or Pau drafted by the Lakers?

Was Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen drafted by the Celtics?

Was Tyson Chandler drafted by the Mavericks before he helped them win a championship?

My point is a franchise that succeeds by trading for talent in the NBA is THE NORM. Not the other way around. Teams that just draft good are farm system teams like the Clippers of old. The Clippers draft great, and then in a few years when they dont build around their great talent, their great talent leaves for a real team thats willing to make moves to bring in talent like the team that drafted them wouldnt do.

Cuban won a ring because he made the right offseason trades which brought him in the pieces to win a championship. Not because he drafted Dirk. Anybody who drafted Dirk would have a good team, but they would never have a championship team with Dirk if he&#039;s not complimented with the right pieces. Keep in mind Dirk and Steve Nash played on the same team, one would think that would make for a pretty unstoppable force. Guess what, it never worked out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Shaq, Kobe, or Pau drafted by the Lakers?</p>
<p>Was Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen drafted by the Celtics?</p>
<p>Was Tyson Chandler drafted by the Mavericks before he helped them win a championship?</p>
<p>My point is a franchise that succeeds by trading for talent in the NBA is THE NORM. Not the other way around. Teams that just draft good are farm system teams like the Clippers of old. The Clippers draft great, and then in a few years when they dont build around their great talent, their great talent leaves for a real team thats willing to make moves to bring in talent like the team that drafted them wouldnt do.</p>
<p>Cuban won a ring because he made the right offseason trades which brought him in the pieces to win a championship. Not because he drafted Dirk. Anybody who drafted Dirk would have a good team, but they would never have a championship team with Dirk if he&#8217;s not complimented with the right pieces. Keep in mind Dirk and Steve Nash played on the same team, one would think that would make for a pretty unstoppable force. Guess what, it never worked out.</p>
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		<title>By: fordman84</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I take away from all this is that as soon as Dirk retires, Dallas will be drafting in the lottery every year.  Since we can no longer afford to pay the big bucks for the veteran talent (be it via trade or one of these FA signings that never happen for Dallas), we will have to rely on the draft.  Other than Dirk, who has Dallas drafted and developed/kept around/ still in the league on the Cubes-Donny clock?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I take away from all this is that as soon as Dirk retires, Dallas will be drafting in the lottery every year.  Since we can no longer afford to pay the big bucks for the veteran talent (be it via trade or one of these FA signings that never happen for Dallas), we will have to rely on the draft.  Other than Dirk, who has Dallas drafted and developed/kept around/ still in the league on the Cubes-Donny clock?</p>
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		<title>By: snoopy2014</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snoopy2014]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also left the Lakers off, because I thought that was self-explanatory as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also left the Lakers off, because I thought that was self-explanatory as well.</p>
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		<title>By: snoopy2014</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snoopy2014]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You named 11 teams. And while Mullin and Richmond were great, it&#039;s a bit of a stretch to put them in the same category as the others on your list. 

If you define parity by the distribution of elite franchise players (I&#039;m not going to predict who&#039;ll make the Hall of Fame), then...

Chicago - Rose
Miami - Lebron and Wade
Boston - self-explanatory 
NY - Carmelo
SA - Duncan, Ginobili, Parker
OKC - Durant
LAC - Paul
MN - Love
Orlando - Howard 
Charlotte - Ha OK just kidding
NJ - Williams
Phx - Nash 
Dallas - Nowitzki 
Washington - Wall, while definitely not a HOF favorite right now, at least has the potential to be a franchise player 
Cle - Irving is a franchise player right now

You also forgot to mention that &quot;Magic in LA&quot; had 3 other HOFs with him (Wilkes made it too) and that Bird guy (who isn&#039;t on your list) also had multiple HOFs beside him. 

You can hate Lebron and Wade for teaming up - I&#039;m not a fan of it either - but let&#039;s not use revisionist history to try to suggest the 80s were a decade of parity. The 80s were THE decade of dynasties. Those Lakers teams with McAdoo, Thompson, were stacked in a way that no team today is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You named 11 teams. And while Mullin and Richmond were great, it&#8217;s a bit of a stretch to put them in the same category as the others on your list. </p>
<p>If you define parity by the distribution of elite franchise players (I&#8217;m not going to predict who&#8217;ll make the Hall of Fame), then&#8230;</p>
<p>Chicago &#8211; Rose<br />
Miami &#8211; Lebron and Wade<br />
Boston &#8211; self-explanatory<br />
NY &#8211; Carmelo<br />
SA &#8211; Duncan, Ginobili, Parker<br />
OKC &#8211; Durant<br />
LAC &#8211; Paul<br />
MN &#8211; Love<br />
Orlando &#8211; Howard<br />
Charlotte &#8211; Ha OK just kidding<br />
NJ &#8211; Williams<br />
Phx &#8211; Nash<br />
Dallas &#8211; Nowitzki<br />
Washington &#8211; Wall, while definitely not a HOF favorite right now, at least has the potential to be a franchise player<br />
Cle &#8211; Irving is a franchise player right now</p>
<p>You also forgot to mention that &#8220;Magic in LA&#8221; had 3 other HOFs with him (Wilkes made it too) and that Bird guy (who isn&#8217;t on your list) also had multiple HOFs beside him. </p>
<p>You can hate Lebron and Wade for teaming up &#8211; I&#8217;m not a fan of it either &#8211; but let&#8217;s not use revisionist history to try to suggest the 80s were a decade of parity. The 80s were THE decade of dynasties. Those Lakers teams with McAdoo, Thompson, were stacked in a way that no team today is.</p>
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		<title>By: southpaw77</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southpaw77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NFL model won&#039;t work for the NBA?  Says who.
In the 80s every team dang near had a hall of famer.
Drexler in Portland
Olajuwon in Houston
Reggie in Indiana
Mullin in Golden State
Richmond in Sacramento
Stockton n Malone in Utah
Mourning in Charlotte
Dumars n Thomas in Detroit
Robinson in San Antonio
Magic in LA
Jordan n Pippen in Chicago
And so on.. 

So basicly it came down to which stars worked harder (like Jordan), who had the good coach, who drafted well, who traded well, and who stayed healthy. It didn&#039;t come down to these crybabies think they&#039;re entitled to titles so they team up and certain teams are constantly allowed to go over the cap and snag up every veteran that&#039;s bought out or waived.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL model won&#8217;t work for the NBA?  Says who.<br />
In the 80s every team dang near had a hall of famer.<br />
Drexler in Portland<br />
Olajuwon in Houston<br />
Reggie in Indiana<br />
Mullin in Golden State<br />
Richmond in Sacramento<br />
Stockton n Malone in Utah<br />
Mourning in Charlotte<br />
Dumars n Thomas in Detroit<br />
Robinson in San Antonio<br />
Magic in LA<br />
Jordan n Pippen in Chicago<br />
And so on.. </p>
<p>So basicly it came down to which stars worked harder (like Jordan), who had the good coach, who drafted well, who traded well, and who stayed healthy. It didn&#8217;t come down to these crybabies think they&#8217;re entitled to titles so they team up and certain teams are constantly allowed to go over the cap and snag up every veteran that&#8217;s bought out or waived.</p>
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		<title>By: southpaw77</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southpaw77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotta call BS on this, Miami continues to spend over the cap, if the owner has the cash then they pay the luxury tax without blinking.
No secret Cuban&#039;s money isn&#039;t as big as it was so he tried to save this year to score this off-season and his team got swept.

Let&#039;s see how many years the Heat will be way over the cap and you think the steepers tax will stop them?

The CBA for the NBA is a joke, certain teams continue to go over the cap anytime a free agent comes available or quit on a team like Lebron did on the Cavs in 2010 in game 5.  Need NFL rules with a hard cap and you can franchise these guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta call BS on this, Miami continues to spend over the cap, if the owner has the cash then they pay the luxury tax without blinking.<br />
No secret Cuban&#8217;s money isn&#8217;t as big as it was so he tried to save this year to score this off-season and his team got swept.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how many years the Heat will be way over the cap and you think the steepers tax will stop them?</p>
<p>The CBA for the NBA is a joke, certain teams continue to go over the cap anytime a free agent comes available or quit on a team like Lebron did on the Cavs in 2010 in game 5.  Need NFL rules with a hard cap and you can franchise these guys.</p>
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		<title>By: davidly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davidly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But I&#039;m saying he gambled and lost now. He says &quot;one bounce, one break, one call&quot;? He must be taking crazy pills. His team got bounced in the biggest way, not by one little thing here and there.

It took him a while to build his championship, and the one thing that would have recruited players after this CBA would have been another stellar showing in this year&#039;s playoffs. Nobody is coming to Dallas.

Hats off again to last season&#039;s Mavs. They were something else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I&#8217;m saying he gambled and lost now. He says &#8220;one bounce, one break, one call&#8221;? He must be taking crazy pills. His team got bounced in the biggest way, not by one little thing here and there.</p>
<p>It took him a while to build his championship, and the one thing that would have recruited players after this CBA would have been another stellar showing in this year&#8217;s playoffs. Nobody is coming to Dallas.</p>
<p>Hats off again to last season&#8217;s Mavs. They were something else.</p>
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