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Video: Jones’ check on Noah; Wade’s shove of Rip

Apr 20, 2012, 1:22 AM EDT

You can’t have a true rivalry until the teams really don’t like each other — and we may be there with the Bulls and the Heat.

Thursday night’s game got a little chippy. Miami was trying to send a message — to themselves as much or more than the Bulls — that they could be physical and would not back down.

The top video is James Jones going to the face to check Joakim Noah — a foul that rightfully got him ejected. The rulebook says a flagrant II foul needs to be unnecessary and excessive, I think that qualifies.

The second video was a flagrant I for Dwyane Wade. He and Richard Hamilton had been going back and forth all night and after Hamilton gave a little push to create some space Wade decided to remind him who the bigger, stronger player is. This matchup is going to be a lot of fun in the Eastern Conference Finals.

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  1. Justin - Apr 20, 2012 at 1:35 AM

    “This matchup is going to be a lot of fun in the Eastern Conference Finals”

    Why do we automatically assume they will be both be there. So many people do that and so many end up wrong.

    • Kurt Helin - Apr 20, 2012 at 1:37 AM

      I like the Pacers, but I don’t think anybody is on the level of these teams in the East.

      • davidly - Apr 20, 2012 at 6:09 AM

        Na, Kurt. The Pacers are for real and you know it. Admit it: you also know that “on the level of these teams” includes the fact that they don’t have the star power to get the crucial calls down the stretch.

        I have faith: San Anton and Indiana in the finals!

      • pudgalvin - Apr 20, 2012 at 9:14 AM

        Boy, what a nightmare for the NBA that would be.

  2. bhester1906 - Apr 20, 2012 at 2:28 AM

    I still believe the bulls can get bounced early if Rose doesn’t return to form. It is one thing to win games but is another to win a series. I wouldn’t bank on John Lucas, CJ Watson, and Carlos Boozer….would you?

  3. edweird0 - Apr 20, 2012 at 3:17 AM

    Thank you for posting this. I’ve been watching these for hours.

  4. slippyal2 - Apr 20, 2012 at 4:29 AM

    Jones’ foul was uncalled for, though I approve of Wade’s shove. That was a cheap elbow dig to the ribs. It’s about time the Heat became chippy.

    • pudgalvin - Apr 20, 2012 at 8:20 AM

      Come on. Lebron creates space like that everytime he catches the ball. All NBA players create space like that. That elbow happens about 50 a game in the NBA.

  5. davidly - Apr 20, 2012 at 6:11 AM

    As long as a flagrant 2 only means ejection, players that commit them will take it no more seriously than the NBA version of kayfabe. Flagrant 2s should be 5 games minimum. But that’s like saying there shouldn’t be fighting in hockey. Heaven forbid!

  6. gmsingh - Apr 20, 2012 at 6:44 AM

    Well, one team looked like a dirty bunch of losers, and it wasn’t the Bulls!

  7. skids003 - Apr 20, 2012 at 8:27 AM

    Wade’s should’ve been a flagrant 2, but since he’s a “star” it wasn’t.

    • lmoneyfresh - Apr 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM

      I really don’t understand why it wasn’t. There was no play on the ball. He got pissed and shoved Rip down to the ground. I was a bit surprised it was only a flagrant 1, but it was Dwade.

      On a side note, how did lebron not get a tech for jawing at the refs? You could hear him screaming at the refs multiple times in that game. I thought that was supposed to be a point of emphasis for the refs this year.

  8. passerby23 - Apr 20, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    That was a suspension-worthy thug move by Jones – going right for the guy’s head.

    Wade’s was also a flagrant-2. People think Hamilton was being dirty, but when you body a guy like that – especially 30 feet from the basket – guys use elbows to create space. In any event, you can’t two-hand shove a guy with full force for that. I think Wade should’ve been ejected too.

  9. dysraw1 - Apr 20, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    I thought D Wade wanted to fight that kind of shove in response was totally uncalled for,the league should take action on this a.s.a.p

  10. philtration - Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    The Heat can do this stuff because they get away with it every single game.
    Remember Wade taking a swing at Noah this season the refs did not even call a foul let alone kick him out of the game?
    Do you really believe that if Noah took a swing at any Heat player he would still be on the floor?

    Phony tough guys that are loved and promoted by the league so they get away with this crap.

    • philtration - Apr 20, 2012 at 11:20 AM

      Hey… you forgot LeBron giving a forearm to John Lucas on a pick.
      What cowards.

      You know who likes this kind of stuff?
      Idiot bandwagon fans that know nothing about the game.

      • lmoneyfresh - Apr 20, 2012 at 11:55 AM

        Come on man, I’m a bulls fan and that pick was questionable at most. Lebron is obviously a tough guy for laying out a guy half his size, but the pick wasn’t that bad. He leaned in a little bit, but nothing crazy. It doesn’t take much to rock JL3 since he weight 110 lbs soaking wet.

      • philtration - Apr 20, 2012 at 12:36 PM

        And that is why he picked Lucas.
        Ever see LeBron do that to the bigger players in the NBA?

        Hell…. he get s all pissy when a high school player shows him up.

  11. kalooz - Apr 20, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    I’m really starting to believe that NBA players are the biggest p*ssies in sports. James Jones’ move was bush – proving you’re tough by hitting a dude in the face when he’s not looking at you. Yeah, you’re a tough guy, James. It’s laughable to see Wade prance around like he’s a billybad@ss for pushing some dude that he outweighs by close to 50 pounds. So tough. Sheeesh.

    There was an incident with Jared Dudley and Blake Griffin. Dudley gets tangled up with Kenyon Martin. Instead of doing anything to him, he goes after Blake, knowing full well Blake won’t get kicked out. Too funny. Fake @ss tough guys.

  12. metalhead65 - Apr 20, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    wow so giving cheap shots before the playoffs is suppose to make kebron and company tough guys nows? just another example being the classless punks you are.

  13. turnmymicup - Apr 20, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Jeezz what a bunch of cry babies. When did the fans become such softies. Hard fouls happen all the time in this league Man up! This is playoff basketball go watch the Wnba if you dont like it.

  14. gmsingh - Apr 21, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    At some point did the Heat hire Bill Laimbeer to be their flagrant foul coach?

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