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Cuban talks argument with Odom, why team let him leave

Apr 10, 2012, 11:31 PM EST

Dallas Mavericks owner Cuban reacts during the second half of their NBA basketball game against the Los Angeles Clippers in Dallas Reuters

A lot of Mavericks fans were in the place Mark Cuban was a long time ago — they were done with Lamar Odom and wanted to get in his face long ago.

But one of the reasons that players consider Dallas a destination now is Cuban’s player-friendly ways. Odom had gone through a lot before the season — having a cousin murdered, having a car he was a passenger in run over and kill a 15-year-old boy in New York, almost being traded from the team where he felt comfortable (which led him to ask for a trade). Cuban wanted to give him a chance.

But after a listless first half in Memphis Saturday, Cuban confronted Odom and they got in an argument, which led to the decision by the two sides to part ways. Here are Cuban’s quotes, via the Associated Press.

“I just asked him, does he want to go for it or not. Is he in or is he out? I think he thought we were playing poker. I just didn’t get a commitment. And that was the end,” Cuban said. “This was a big game for us, and he wasn’t connecting to that. And if you’re not positive energy, you’re negative energy….

“Just his response to it. Everybody goes through ups and downs. Every player does. We tried to put him in a position to succeed. … It didn’t work,” Cuban said…

“He didn’t want to play. He decided to go elsewhere or do something else. Now we regroup and go forward,” Cuban said. “We kept on hoping things would turn out right. It just got to the point where there weren’t enough games in the season to try to find out.”

Odom was never mentally right for this season. Whether he had stayed with the Lakers — where the players were familiar but the coach and system would have been a radical change — or was traded anywhere, this was going to be an off year for him. Maybe not as bad as it got in Dallas, but it would not have been good.

What is really going to anger Mavs fans? After a summer off, look for Odom to come back somewhere next year — Miami, Los Angeles, maybe somewhere else — with his head right and he’ll have a good season again.

  1. lakerluver - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Cuban, just shut up and enjoy your reign as champs for a little while longer. Because it’ll soon be over! The Mavs are what is known as a “one hit wonder”. Lamar wants to go back to a franchise that wins titles in bunches of threes, not one that wins a title every 30 years.

    • smoothaswilkes - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM

      “not one that takes 32 years to win it’s first title” – fixed

    • drunkenjunk - Apr 11, 2012 at 7:16 AM

      Think about what you’re saying. You really think after this season people are going to be clamoring to go to the Lakers? The younger Buss is like Tommy from Tommy Boy except he has nothing going for him. He’s gonna run your once great franchise into the dirt. Kobe is almost done and you better enjoy his last couple years because its gonna be real depressing after that.

      • loungefly74 - Apr 11, 2012 at 9:22 AM

        well…i do think “lakerluver” comment was a little harsh to the Mavs organization. They did a great job last year and have built a respected yearly contender in Dallas. (im a Laker fan)

        …now, while Lakerluver was extreme in his comment, i think yours is just as extreme. the Lakers franschise goes into dirt? really? the greatest luxury us Laker fans have is knowing our team is the crown of the NBA…has been for a while (maybe Boston could lay claim to that but the past 20 years has been more about the Lakers), anyway…no way this team goes the way of sacramento or detroit or whatever floundering team…we are the yankees/buckeyes/manchester united/etc of basketball. the lakers don’t rebuild…we reload.

      • therealhtj - Apr 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM

        I also take issue with the reference to Dallas as a “destination” franchise for free agents. Other than the annual talk of this or that top-tier FA having Dallas on his short list, how many of them actually came? Sure Cuban provides great facilities and didn’t mind taking on salary in some lopsided trades to get some decent pieces, the guys he really wanted never materialized.

        Dirk and Company had 1 outlier season. He’s come back down to earth, and more resembles just the same old Dirk who folded in big moments. Even with a DWill, the team isn’t built to compete for another championship.

        Despite what you Dallas fans think, NBA players don’t look at your city as supportive to their lifestyles. It’s podunk with backwards views on gay marriage, abortion, and minorities. Face it, compared to NY, LA, or Miami, it’s just another southwestern dust bowl full of ten gallon hats and pickups with rifle racks. I know you’re all convinced DWill is coming, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    • cosanostra71 - Apr 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM

      why is the owner in the locker room at halftime anyway? Does he think he’s the coach? Let the basketball people take care of the basketball stuff Cuban, you’re not Jerry Jones you aren’t the GM.

      • drunkenjunk - Apr 11, 2012 at 10:52 AM

        I don’t mean the Lakers are gonna be nothing and never be relevant again. My point is the guy runnin the show now is an idiot. Having an incompetent, moron run your franchise can change things dramatically.

        @thereal

        You’re comments about the south are stereotypical. This assumption that everyone wants to be in LA, NY and Miami is stupid. All have nice places but so do other places, not everybody wants to live/play there.

    • solomon151 - Apr 11, 2012 at 10:54 AM

      I think the Lakers went on a drought too. From 90 to when Shaq got there. YOu sound more like a band wagon fan

  2. seattlesuperchronic - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    lakerluver

    That comment coming from a Lakers fan doesn’t carry much weight anymore. The Mavs championship is in the past just like the Lakers’ championships. Looking forward, what do the Lakers have that Dallas doesn’t? The future looks pretty bleak for you as well lakerluver. Turd.

    • mlblogsbig3bosox - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:13 AM

      It doesn´t seem so bright for seattle either..

  3. gmacc85 - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    Should have had him in the d league to start off. Take some pressure off, clear the mind a little. I agree that next year will be a good one for him .

  4. Mr. Wright 212 - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM

    He talks about why he “let him leave”, but WON’T let him leave, because he would go back to LAL. Shut up Cuban.

    • solomon151 - Apr 11, 2012 at 11:14 AM

      And you think somethings wrong with that?? Why WOuld he release him

  5. rexismybff - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    This is the brilliance of the Lakers’ front office. Sign guys to massively overpaid long-term deals, then ship them out and watch them bounce around the league, sucking up oxygen and cash wherever they land.

    • therealhtj - Apr 11, 2012 at 10:25 AM

      Gotta find idiot GMs to take their sorry asses off our hands first.

  6. cup0pizza - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:57 AM

    Good move by Cuban. Odom is a loser.

  7. lakerluver - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:53 AM

    Hey, cup0pizza, Lamar has a couple of rings that says he’s NOT a loser. I think you are the loser, my friend.

    • dadaboi - Apr 11, 2012 at 6:52 AM

      Wow, rings argument again. Well at least I now know that Devin Brown is not a loser because he has 2 rings as well.

      • loungefly74 - Apr 11, 2012 at 9:35 AM

        dadaboi (and drunkenjunk)…learn the context and meaning when the “ring arguement” is brought up. i’ll break it down to you…again. for this example, odom was mentioned. now, odom played a pivotal role on those championship teams, he was a key contributor. his play and effort were critical in his team getting 2 rings. now…you mention devin brown (and adam morrison). both those players were not KEY contributors to their team’s success. sure, they were part of the squad and did their role but were a minimal part of the success their teams had. does that make sense to you? playing on championship teams is a major factor when gauging a player’s career…but also, what he did on that team means just as much.

        here is another analogy to break it down further…you receive 2 gift boxes…1 has a $10K Rolex in it…and the other has a crappy K-mart watch. you gonna value those watches the same because they were both gifts? no.

        and if you can’t figure it out by now…then i quit. sheesh…

      • dadaboi - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:15 AM

        Okay, then at least give me the definition of “Key contributor”. Is there a minimum stat average? Because as far as I see it, Devin Brown saw a lot of minutes for those Spurs teams. Isn’t your “Key contributor” label subjective?

    • drunkenjunk - Apr 11, 2012 at 8:20 AM

      Dude Adam Morrison has two rings.

    • therealhtj - Apr 11, 2012 at 10:28 AM

      As a Laker fan, I’m so sick of the rings argument myself. Great, Kobe has 5. Impressive. Well Bill Russel has 10. We should amnesty Kobe and pull Bill out of retirement to lead our team back to the promised land!

      WOO HOO! Rings baby!!!!!!!

      Morons.

  8. lakerluver - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:57 AM

    Hey, seattlesuperchronic, the LAKERS are a top 3 franchise in all of sports, so you’re comment lacks any credibility. Seattle sucks and so does every one of your sports teams. I guess if I lived in such a dreary place I’d smoke chronic all day too.

    • loungefly74 - Apr 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM

      let them hate, lakerluver. it’s all good. we know how good our franchise is. it’s more fun when people boo you…because they know youre good.

  9. storebrandcookies - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:01 AM

    Odom’s heart was never in Dallas. The Mavericks gave him plenty of chances to fit in but it never panned out. Take it from a guy who has watched almost every Mav’s game this season, you can tell he was going through the motions when he was on the floor.

  10. monstoro15 - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:06 AM

    The nuggets should test odom out.
    Al Harrington just tore his miniscus, and is too old to play through it.
    Odom is a verteran forward that can play point forward at times, something the nuggets do with danilo galinari. He not only provides succor to.the nuggets injury problems, but he also knows what it takes to win a championship, great veteran presence in the locker room. but then again, I’m just a Denver nuggets fan, who cares what I think.

  11. jonirocit - Apr 11, 2012 at 3:27 AM

    Wait…..that dude on tv married to that other dude is a basketball player?

  12. jonirocit - Apr 11, 2012 at 3:28 AM

    Wow

  13. hoodheisman - Apr 11, 2012 at 4:07 AM

    Odom’s basketball career was pretty much done the second he decided to marry that train wreck and her reality tv fetish. He was never the same and it was so evident at the end of last season and the playoffs. That’s why the Lakers didn’t think twice about shipping him out. He’s done. If your focus isn’t 100% on basketball, you shouldn’t be playing at this level.

    • therealhtj - Apr 11, 2012 at 10:29 AM

      Actually, he had his best season ever after that marriage and won 6th Man of the Year. I think what actually happened is he thought he was married to the hot Kardashian. Then someone broke it to him that he got the ugly one. The rest is history.

  14. lafan101 - Apr 11, 2012 at 6:31 AM

    Laker fans calling for that underachiever to come back to the Purple & Gold are morons. We don’t need that Kardashian trainwreck back in the locker room. Stay as far away from Staples Center as possible. Thanks Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak for kicking him to the curve.

  15. glink123 - Apr 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM

    yeah. and Luke Walton is not a loser. lmfao.

    • jimeejohnson - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

      Says the expert (on) loser(s)!

  16. baron30 - Apr 11, 2012 at 8:15 AM

    look for Lamar to go to Brooklyn next year…

  17. nokoolaidcowboy - Apr 11, 2012 at 8:42 AM

    This dude is a Karedasian by insertion. You really think he is going to hustle?

  18. t16rich - Apr 11, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    This late in the season must have been tough. I wonder if they look at signing that bull Khloe Khardashian? She’s big, she’s mean and she is nasty. Everything you want when looking at a new big man.

  19. bobthis - Apr 11, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Lamar never played up to his potential starting with the Clippers. He only showed up when he felt like it. He had all the tools to be a real force in the NBA. Very sad.

  20. jb24fan - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    He’s just a really tall emo kid at heart. He’s super emotional and needs to be reassured that everyone loves him. A gentle giant I guess. I feel bad for what he went through, I wouldn’t handle it any better than he has. Hope he gets right and comes back, fun player to watch.

  21. santanaspikez - Apr 11, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    @lakerluver
    im sure manchester united, liverpool, arsenal, barcelona, AC/Inter milan, real madrid, bayern munich, dallas cowboys, pittsburgh steelers, greenbay packers, boston celtics, Washington Redskins, new york knicks, san fancisco 49ers, NY Yankees, Boston Redsox, Detroit Redwings, Bruins, and Penguins, Hell even the tall blacks rugby team and a couple other franchises would love to disagree with your idiotic top 3 assumption.
    before you spit out whimsical opinions without merit, you should understand that when you say TOP 3 IN SPORTS THIS INCLUDES ALL SPORTS!
    you may be in the top 10 if lucky. #boom #stfu
    thank you.

  22. dvill3 - Apr 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    There should be player bans put on clowns like this… The new dallas catch phrase is “NO MO LO”

    You got it from me 1st…. @trendsetter

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