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	<title>Comments on: Shane Battier would welcome anti-flop regulations, but wants offensive floppers penalized as well</title>
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		<title>By: allthewaylive1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Except when you blow your knee out...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except when you blow your knee out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hgulkkcaj</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Maybe fines for flopping, but not techs.  It would just get out of control.&quot;

I agree - plus, if you&#039;re fining guys, it hits the pocket books.  AND, the league office could use replays to determine whether a guy flopped or not.  It could get dicey if you&#039;re trying to determine live whether a guy flopped or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe fines for flopping, but not techs.  It would just get out of control.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree &#8211; plus, if you&#8217;re fining guys, it hits the pocket books.  AND, the league office could use replays to determine whether a guy flopped or not.  It could get dicey if you&#8217;re trying to determine live whether a guy flopped or not.</p>
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		<title>By: 1972wasalongtimeago</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kings of slapping the floor on defense too]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kings of slapping the floor on defense too</p>
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		<title>By: davidtmp</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you REALLY commenting a DUKE player about flopping??  They are the kings of flopping!  The refs shouldn&#039;t call fouls, turnovers, or anything against floppers.  They should just walk over to them while they lay on the floor, and kick them in the head, hand them a towel, and say, &quot;wipe the sweat off the floor when you get up&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you REALLY commenting a DUKE player about flopping??  They are the kings of flopping!  The refs shouldn&#8217;t call fouls, turnovers, or anything against floppers.  They should just walk over to them while they lay on the floor, and kick them in the head, hand them a towel, and say, &#8220;wipe the sweat off the floor when you get up&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Wright 212</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Wright 212]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Completely agreed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Wright 212</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Wright 212]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Billups is the king of it. Throwing his head back, flailing his arms, kicking his legs when no one even touches him (in some cases).

LeBron and Wade verbal flop all the time as well. 

Allen Iverson was one of the first to really abuse it. Every time he drove to the hole you would hear &quot;OH!!!!!!!&quot; whenever he got into traffic. 

These guys just take it to a new level.

Chris Paul is the biggest flop artist period, because he egregiously does it on both ends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billups is the king of it. Throwing his head back, flailing his arms, kicking his legs when no one even touches him (in some cases).</p>
<p>LeBron and Wade verbal flop all the time as well. </p>
<p>Allen Iverson was one of the first to really abuse it. Every time he drove to the hole you would hear &#8220;OH!!!!!!!&#8221; whenever he got into traffic. </p>
<p>These guys just take it to a new level.</p>
<p>Chris Paul is the biggest flop artist period, because he egregiously does it on both ends.</p>
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		<title>By: DonRSD</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stop playing panty ball. Let there be contact. 
These guys play patty cake basketball and  it&#039;s very boring to watch.
NBA = African Ballet]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop playing panty ball. Let there be contact.<br />
These guys play patty cake basketball and  it&#8217;s very boring to watch.<br />
NBA = African Ballet</p>
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		<title>By: passerby23</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 05:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like more rules, especially for flopping. Sometimes flopping is the result of a guy being bodied around, not getting a call, and having to resort to &quot;selling&quot; the play to finally get a call. Sometimes it&#039;s actually a foul, but the player overdramatizes it. Does that negate the call? I don&#039;t want to see a game being decided by a tech for a &quot;questionable&quot; flop. Maybe fines for flopping, but not techs. It would just get out of control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like more rules, especially for flopping. Sometimes flopping is the result of a guy being bodied around, not getting a call, and having to resort to &#8220;selling&#8221; the play to finally get a call. Sometimes it&#8217;s actually a foul, but the player overdramatizes it. Does that negate the call? I don&#8217;t want to see a game being decided by a tech for a &#8220;questionable&#8221; flop. Maybe fines for flopping, but not techs. It would just get out of control.</p>
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		<title>By: adamthompson24</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[adamthompson24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;(By the way, my two cents on flopping: if referees were willing to call offensive fouls when a defender has good position, gets run into, and stays on his feet while trying to contest the shot, we might see less guys sliding across the floor when an offensive player’s move to the basket generates a slight breeze. Just a thought.)&quot;

I couldn&#039;t agree more. The way games are called and the bailouts guys get for just attacking the bodies of defenders (cough Lebron) only increases the tendency for defenders to flop to finally get a call. Guys driving to the basket act like they have the right of way when attacking the hoop, and the game is often called like this nowadays too. It makes defending these guys practically impossible given the status quo, leading to ugly, forced offense. I got off topic, but the way the game is officiated (not even mentioning palming and traveling) has destroyed what should be something much more natural. 

Back to the point: I like the idea of calling technical fouls for flops either way. Free throw and possession for non flopping team. It&#039;d be hard to regulate but should only be used for the most obvious cases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(By the way, my two cents on flopping: if referees were willing to call offensive fouls when a defender has good position, gets run into, and stays on his feet while trying to contest the shot, we might see less guys sliding across the floor when an offensive player’s move to the basket generates a slight breeze. Just a thought.)&#8221;</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. The way games are called and the bailouts guys get for just attacking the bodies of defenders (cough Lebron) only increases the tendency for defenders to flop to finally get a call. Guys driving to the basket act like they have the right of way when attacking the hoop, and the game is often called like this nowadays too. It makes defending these guys practically impossible given the status quo, leading to ugly, forced offense. I got off topic, but the way the game is officiated (not even mentioning palming and traveling) has destroyed what should be something much more natural. </p>
<p>Back to the point: I like the idea of calling technical fouls for flops either way. Free throw and possession for non flopping team. It&#8217;d be hard to regulate but should only be used for the most obvious cases.</p>
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		<title>By: MightyMoonWorm</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know, running as fast as possible to the rack and jumping into people seems like a pretty viable strategy to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, running as fast as possible to the rack and jumping into people seems like a pretty viable strategy to me.</p>
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		<title>By: 1972wasalongtimeago</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1972wasalongtimeago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 03:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not mentioning names, but rhymes with Rerrick Dose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not mentioning names, but rhymes with Rerrick Dose.</p>
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		<title>By: sprest83</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sprest83]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 02:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totally, the heat would take the biggest hit. Miami Heat = actors not ballers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally, the heat would take the biggest hit. Miami Heat = actors not ballers</p>
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		<title>By: jjordannba</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Chris Paul is annoying with all his flopping, its soft and cheap why not just earn the play then fake it, He fouled a key player out the game the other night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Chris Paul is annoying with all his flopping, its soft and cheap why not just earn the play then fake it, He fouled a key player out the game the other night.</p>
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		<title>By: borderline1988</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[borderline1988]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been saying the same thing for years.

Dwayne Wade is more guilty of flopping than any defensive player in the league. 

Except for one man. Paul Pierce. That guy drives me nuts. At least Wade flops while aggressively attacking the basket. Pierce screams when he&#039;s 30 feet away from the basket, running around a pick. It&#039;s the classic Pierce move. Have a guy set a pick for you, run straight into the hedger, and then fall down and scream. It happens every time. Doesn&#039;t matter if it&#039;s Early Boykins being the hedger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been saying the same thing for years.</p>
<p>Dwayne Wade is more guilty of flopping than any defensive player in the league. </p>
<p>Except for one man. Paul Pierce. That guy drives me nuts. At least Wade flops while aggressively attacking the basket. Pierce screams when he&#8217;s 30 feet away from the basket, running around a pick. It&#8217;s the classic Pierce move. Have a guy set a pick for you, run straight into the hedger, and then fall down and scream. It happens every time. Doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s Early Boykins being the hedger.</p>
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		<title>By: tomshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tomshoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;it’s become completely ordinary to see players fly back when they get bumped dribbling on the perimeter, jerk their head back in the way Battier described when going to the rim, and shout “and-1!” every time they put up a layup attempt in traffic.&quot;

hahahahah that makes me laugh imagining these tough guy players do that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it’s become completely ordinary to see players fly back when they get bumped dribbling on the perimeter, jerk their head back in the way Battier described when going to the rim, and shout “and-1!” every time they put up a layup attempt in traffic.&#8221;</p>
<p>hahahahah that makes me laugh imagining these tough guy players do that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dafranchise03</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did Battier really single out Scola? The dude averages 3 free throws a game this year with a career high of 3.9 a game. Every knows he flops of the defensive end but not on the offensive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Battier really single out Scola? The dude averages 3 free throws a game this year with a career high of 3.9 a game. Every knows he flops of the defensive end but not on the offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: lunasceiling</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lunasceiling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One sport with an (arguably) worse flopping problem than hoops is soccer. So imagine the big grin on my face when I saw a player in the Champions League (of all places) pull an utterly obvious flop...and the ref walked up and hit him with a yellow card for unsportsmanlike conduct. If the NBA&#039;s refs T up a few of the obvious floppers, it might help with this situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One sport with an (arguably) worse flopping problem than hoops is soccer. So imagine the big grin on my face when I saw a player in the Champions League (of all places) pull an utterly obvious flop&#8230;and the ref walked up and hit him with a yellow card for unsportsmanlike conduct. If the NBA&#8217;s refs T up a few of the obvious floppers, it might help with this situation.</p>
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		<title>By: nhornblower</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nhornblower]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first one he should talk to is his team mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6icwKAie70]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first one he should talk to is his team mate.</p>
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		<title>By: mrbiz8505</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[D Wade would lose 10pts a game if they did this]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D Wade would lose 10pts a game if they did this</p>
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		<title>By: clydemonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clydemonkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like this. Chris Paul and Chauncey Billups are two of the worst offensive floppers in the game. And they&#039;re good FT shooters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this. Chris Paul and Chauncey Billups are two of the worst offensive floppers in the game. And they&#8217;re good FT shooters.</p>
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		<title>By: bearsstillsuck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bearsstillsuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flopping is part of the game at every level, and I have no problem with it. Dare I say that the refs might have to step up their game and recognize a flop and not call it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flopping is part of the game at every level, and I have no problem with it. Dare I say that the refs might have to step up their game and recognize a flop and not call it.</p>
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