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Report: Howard likes Clippers, Heat. Please make this stop.

Mar 12, 2012, 1:05 PM EDT

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Another day, another report that the Orlando Magic are leaning heavily toward keeping Dwight Howard in their camp and trying to convince him to stay. This time it’s in a series of tweets of from Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated we hear that Dwight is staying and that he still has no interest in going to the Bulls. Which makes no sense, but there you go.

Mannix goes on to say Howard wanted to move via free agency anyway because he didn’t want to go to a team that was gutted to make way for him. So, he learned a lesson watching Carmelo Anthony. Great.

Then came this zinger at the end.

Two teams sources say tell SI Howard will have interest in: Clippers and Miami. There are cap issues, but the interest is real.

Ugh.

Howard wants to go to the Heat or Clippers? I want to do nothing but drink beer and eat ice cream and still get a body like Brad Pitt. That’s not how it works. No way either of those teams get him. Let me try to explain this:

Miami has $78 million committed in salary for next season, which will be roughly $20 million over the yet-to-be-finalized salary cap. The Heat cannot sign Howard to anything more than a mini-mid level exception next season of $2.5 million. No, they cannot just amnesty Chris Bosh and sign him — amnesty Bosh and you are still a few million over the salary cap, there is no realistic way to get $15 million or more below it. The Clippers are over the cap next year too and have massive extensions for Blake Griffin and Chris Paul coming.

Those teams — and most teams — could only get Howard via a sign-and-trade and neither the Clippers or Heat will give up the pieces the Magic will want (meaning Blake Griffin).

Who has cap space to sign him as a free agent? Indiana, New Jersey/Brooklyn, Dallas. This is not going to be LeBron James like because a lot of teams cleared out cap space for that race, not so much for this one.

I cannot wait for this Howard lunacy to end.

  1. kerby720 - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    I, like everyone else, is just tired of all of this. It seems like the longer this has been going on, the longer I lose interest in wanting him on my team. I never thought he would have really helped the Lakers that much anyway (at least not as much as they would have to give up). Sure he’s a beast on defense, but the Lakers are already one of the top defensive teams in the NBA. Bynum has shown that he can be a star in this league. He’s already a better offensive player than Howard is.

    Chances are he’ll probably end up in either NJ or Dallas. I wouldn’t be surprised though if he didn’t do this again in a few years if the team he ends up on doesn’t win a championship. What I hate most though is the fact that nobody is willing to make a move until his situation gets figured out. I just can’t wait until March 15th comes to see what moves are made, if any.

    • 00maltliquor - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:27 PM

      As crazy as it may sound, I don’t want Howard. I’d rather keep Bynum. Howard has rubbed me the wrong way this year in so many ways, I don’t want someone like that on my team who is only a slight upgrade at a position we are already good at with our homegrown C.

      And I hate the fact nobody will budge an inch trade-wise too! F*** it’s so annoying, every day I keep trying to see something exciting happen but this season has been as stale as a1 year old open bag of chips.

      • loungefly74 - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:36 PM

        agree, this “waiting game” is obnoxious. that’s why i say, let my Lakers stand pat. forget this foolishness in seeking Howard. agree as well that Bynum is a stud in his own right.
        it’s already been a strange year already(for Laker fans)…losing out on CP3 and Odom leaving…i don’t care about Howard anymore. he is full of head-games. damn, why can’t he just say “okay, wait until the end of the year OR i want to play on (insert team name) now…trade me ASAP…but no, howard and Magic ownership are dragging this out. SMH.

      • diabloryno - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:22 PM

        The thing is though all these reports only have “team” sources and rumors and what not. Until Howard actually says who he likes and who he doesn’t like this is all really silly. These reports will take anything from anyone and report on it. It could be a ball boy who said he overheard Orlando management talking about something or whatever it may be. Until Howard says where he wants to play and where he doesn’t, a la LeBron, Wade, Bosh doing visits to other team (If he becomes a free agent, obviously), 99.9% of us have no idea where Dwight wants to go and where he doesn’t.

    • mclebron23 - Mar 14, 2012 at 4:50 AM

      Benumbed better than Dwight on offense??? Lol that’s funny shit. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and gtfo. You sound like a fucking idiot and obviously no nothing about basketball.

      • mclebron23 - Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 AM

        Bynum not “benumbed” lol.

      • kerby720 - Mar 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        So you can actually tell me with a straight face that Howard has better overall offensive skills than Bynum!? By looking at your name I’m guessing you also think Lebron is more polished offensively than Kobe huh? Indeed Lebron is a freakish athlete who can jump out of the arena. Kobe has way more offensive weapons that Lebron. Until Lebron can post up, do an up and under, has a turn around shot, fade away, step back, etc. etc. Lebron will never be as polished as Kobe is on the offensive end.

  2. 00maltliquor - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Dwight Howard for Chris Bosh! Straight up. The trade worked on the ESPN trade machine, and Orlando gets the best offer yet not named Bynum.

    • pudgalvin - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM

      I’m sure the Magic would be thrilled to help out their in state neighbors with this one.

      • 00maltliquor - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:39 PM

        They may not have a choice. They could just keep DH for the rest of the year, and he could split next year for absolutly nothing. Then he could talk to MIA and they could come up with a sign and trade proposal with ORL and be like, “look, D12 ain’t signing with you guys point blank, bar none, case closed, game over. Now either you do a sign and trade with us and we give you Bosh or he could just leave to NJ/BK or DAL and you guys could be set back half a decade or more. Either way, we’d still be great and in the Finals every year. Sooooo… Bosh or NOTHING. Your call…”

      • cured76 - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:47 PM

        It’ll certainly look like a great option once Howard leaves like Shaq did, leaving the Orlando Magic to look like even bigger fools with history repeating itself.

        I don’t want him on the Lakers, either. The only thing I want less than Howard on LAL is Jim Buss running the team. Gasol and Bynum need to stay. Bynum is 24, people forget that because he’s been in the league for 6 years. He has developed into a quality big man with an actual post game. Gasol does too much and is still young enough (31). Hate to say it, but if the Lakers want to add to this roster, Kobe may have to take a pay cut, especially given he’ll be eating up about 50% of the cap with his contract in a couple of years.

        At this point, I’m hoping for a S&T with New Jersey for Deron Williams but they may end up getting Howard, anyway. I’m really more concerned to see which malcontent the Lakers will consider bringing in (as if JR Smith and Rondo weren’t bad enough).

      • sasquash20 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:24 PM

        But Howard would be leaving a lot of money on the table if he leaves Orlando via free agency. Extra year at the max is almost 30 million he could be chancing to injury ect.

    • b3astm0de - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:35 PM

      The trade machine only checks the money, it doesn’t take the cap into consideration.

    • chuckj1234 - Mar 12, 2012 at 8:40 PM

      Not going to happen. The lakers are not going to trade two seven footers for Howard. I would not even trade Bynum straight up for Howard. They need a point guard more than a center. Case closed.

  3. pudgalvin - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    This is more like Howard throwing out a couple of teams that are on the plus side of .500 so that when he goes to the Nets he can say, “Well, I did have winning teams on my list, but we just couldn’t make it work.”

  4. dirksimmons - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    I’m getting pretty tired of all this backwards logic too. First he won’t go to Chicago because he wants to be the man. Then why did he have the Lakers and Mavericks on his list? He wouldn’t be the man there either. Now he’s willing to go to the Heat or the Clippers? But he won’t play with Rose? Then they said it was the cold weather. Somebody show Dwight a map, because New Jersey isn’t a tropical paradise. Then they said he doesn’t want to go to a team that would have to give up a ton of their assets to get him. Even with a trade, Chicago with Dwight is still better than New Jersey with Dwight and no trade. And besides New Jersey, none of his teams can sign him outright anyway. C’mon man!

  5. loungefly74 - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    just stay with the magic! end all this lunacy.

  6. tsi431 - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Lakers do not need Howard, they have a younger, cheaper version of him already in Bynum. Although, I admit Howard is better. But Howard doesn’t have the machine that is Kobe on his team to take all his shots away from him.

    Both of there #’s at this point in each of there career, (6th year starting), are almost identical.

    Bynum (2011-12) 17.1 ppg 12.6 Reb 2.1 Blk
    Howard (2009-10) 18.3 ppg 13.2 Reb 2.8 Blk

    • 00maltliquor - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:54 PM

      Agreed. All Howard is is a brand name like McDonald’s whereas Bynum is like that great, no-name mom n’ pop local burger joint down the street that only the locals are hip to. Ahhhh…the power of advertisment and brand recognition!

    • zeedoubleyou - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:55 PM

      You’re almost completely ignoring the defensive end by simply including blocks stats.

      Dwight Howard playing with four nobodies is still a top 10 defense. Basically draw a half circle from the free throw line down to the baseline and write “they can’t score here” when D12 is manning the paint.

    • theonlysaneblazerfan - Mar 12, 2012 at 5:27 PM

      tsi431 forgot to list games played in his stat line comparisons. Bynum has missed a minumum of 20 games per year every year, sometime 30+. You Laker honks are killing me with this Bynum is as good as Howard garbage.

  7. bparmalee - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    I hope they “keep” him and get Re-Shaqed. The Magic management has to be the worst ever. When the trade deadline passes Howard will start pouting again (remember how he started the year) and Van Gundy will start coaching him again (he loves that)…. then he just waits to leave. They are not…under any circumstances… winning a title with this team…. end of story. So he will blame them…. they will say “We will try to do better” and Howard will sign a 3 year deal with whoever talks to him last (3 years because he kind of likes the attention). Magic you don’t have to get “equal value” because you won’t have him next year or anything else if you don’t make a deal. Brook Lopez and 5 picks is better than a starting front line of Glen Davis and Ryan Anderson (assuming he resigns).

  8. solomon151 - Mar 12, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Howard is a Diva. Nothing more nothing less. Sure he would be a great fit in Chicago, But we cant give up Dang in a package deal. Say what you want about him, But he’s played lights out this year and has been a reliable second scorer. And I think a deal like that would do more to hurt us than help..

    • cured76 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:24 PM

      It’s all the more surprising since Howard was a Jesus freak coming out of high school. Now he’s all about being the man, even though he is the man now, or whatever. It’s difficult to get a read on the guy.

    • juanandonly24 - Mar 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM

      I find it ridiculous that the Bulls are worried about giving up Deng for the best defensive player in the league that would be a great fit for the best defensive team in the league. While I agree that Deng is a good player that excels on defense, you can’t tell me the Bulls wouldn’t be the best team in the league if they got Howard.

      • kinggw - Mar 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM

        Ill tell you, they wont be the best team in the league. Howard to Chicago looks great on paper, but all it does is give them another guy who cant create his own shot. If they get Howard, they will also lose their best perimeter defender in Deng, one of their biggest bench contributors in Gibson and their biggest energy guy in Noah. The Bulls are good because of their chemistry and intensity. A trade for Howard would put a huge dent in both of those departments. Come playoff time the Bulls will have still have trouble finding scoring outside of Rose. Sorry Hedo and Rip arent going to cut it. The Bulls as currently constructed pose more of a threat to the Heat than would a Bulls team featuring Howard.

      • dadawg77 - Mar 13, 2012 at 3:24 AM

        If Howard would stay then the Bulls should absolutely trade Deng for Howard. However if its only for the rest of the season then no. I could see Howard checking out like LeBron did in his last year at Cleveland vs Boston.

  9. tomtravis76 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Sounds great, bring Howard to Miami, and the Knicks would rather have Lin then Carmelo, ship him to Miami as well, just have all the guys restructure their contracts, shoot bring in Deron Williams also, who cares anymore. Who needs competition in NBA anymore, make the Olympic team a touring franchise, they will sell out every arena.

    This all stems from bad ownership and management. The league has too many teams nobody cares about. Would you rather watch great basketball games with tons of talent or Kings vs Wizards,Bobcats or any other NBA team minus 6-8 franchises.

    • sasquash20 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:20 PM

      Great point!

  10. ras1tafari - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    Well KURT – why don’t you make it stop, and stop posting these articles. PROBLEM SOLVED.

    • 00maltliquor - Mar 12, 2012 at 3:33 PM

      He’s just reporting to us what he hears (or reads on other websites, then re-hashes it for us over here), don’t kill the messenger!

  11. sasquash20 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    I have wanted my sixers to take a run at Howard all season, but to be honest I don’t think I want him any more. I don’t get the basketball players of today’s NBA. This whole teaming up to form super teams to me defeats a major part of the whole competition. What happened to trying to win it on your own with what you have? MJ or an MJ type of player would never be doing all this teaming up. Take LeBron for example, if he stays in Cleveland and wins one title that will do more for his legacy then going to Miami and teaming with Bosh and Wade and winning 5. At least in my eyes it will. Howard stays in Orlando and wins one there it will do more for his legacy then if he goes out and joins forces with 3 all stars and wins multiple titles. I just wish these guys wouldn’t team up but rather would want to stomp on the other all stars.

    • astro1018 - Mar 12, 2012 at 3:13 PM

      whats wrong with super teams? the worst thing that could happen is for the nba to have 20 semi crappy teams rather than a handful of super teams.

    • kinggw - Mar 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      Why should NBA stars care what you think about their legacy? There is this false narrative that all the greats of yesteryear wouldnt have done what LBJ did or what Howard is doing. I call shenanigans on that one. Do you really think Bird would have stayed on mediocre Celtics teams if they weren’t good and he had the chance to leave? You think Jordan wouldnt be a Knick if he didnt think the Bulls were going to compete and he had a chance to improve his situation? I think they would’ve entertained opportunities to go to better situations. We will never know. I dont think the big names of last generation are any more loyal than today’s stars. The way free agency worked back then, they didnt have the opportunity to move around like they do today. Back then teams could keep their stars with ease. So lets stop acting like today’s stars are pariahs because they dont want to stay in the same place for the benefit of their legacy.

      • sasquash20 - Mar 12, 2012 at 4:44 PM

        Forget how or why they should care about their legacy. And maybe I shouldn’t have used players from back in the day. But to me you play to be the best you can be. Its competition against yourself. By teaming up you are ultimately not even truly challenging yourself. Growing up there were many times when a pick up game would get out of hand because the best players were on one team. We would change it up every time because it just isn’t as fun or challenging. Same concept with the NBA. Not to mention by superstars teaming up you are eliminating many good solid teams from truly having a shot, and that just hurts the NBA’s overall product by taking away competitiveness.

  12. dirtybird2020 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    Heat couldnt pull a howard for a bosh in a deal, #1 bosh is soft #2 its in the same market as orlando, #3 there are a million of better trade packages #4 heat cant pay howard like orlando can pay him
    Bulls would be stupid to trade noah and deng, maybe noah and boozer and a first round pick from charlotte ( which would be a high pick cause they suck) and asik, bulls are the best team in league and have had injurys all year, can wait till wednesday

  13. upthegut34 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    Not sure why Heat would dump Bosh for Howard anyway. Miami does just fine without a dominant center, whereas they struggle without Bosh’s shooting and lane-clearing presence. Perhaps a case of a player being more valuable to his team than others.

    Nice for Heat to know Howard would like to be a part of it, though.

  14. dirtybird2020 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Lebron for howard if i was heat, hahaha automatic championship wade and howard ask shaq, its safe to say you have a safe bet going agaist lebron, lets his fans down when it matters most, not one, not 2, not 3,not 4,not 5, but all the time lmao

    • gmsalpha - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM

      You got it wrong, Dirt. Wade for Howard. Consider how much better Chris Bosh played when Dwyane was out of the lineup. As fun and exciting as it can be to see D-Wade and LBJ on the court together, they really aren’t a good fit and one of them has to go. Then think about playing a good team with bigs in the Finals. Much better to match them with the taller James, Bosh, and Howard.

      Would anyone go for it? Not a chance. But if you even considered a straight trade of Howard to the Heat, it’d have to be for Dwyane Wade.

      • astro1018 - Mar 12, 2012 at 3:16 PM

        i agree, from the heat standpoint, the wade for howard is the better deal. lebron is younger and howard would get some mad stats from lebron passing

  15. dirtybird2020 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    Waiting for the lebron and miami nutthuggers to come and defend this loser….. Ill wait, they should be here any minute hahaha, keep hugging my friends

    • heat256 - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:54 PM

      Do you only come here when no one responds to your posts on the Bobcats board?

  16. somekat - Mar 12, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Magic get : Iggy, Spencer Hawes, 2 first round draft picks
    Sixers get : D12, filler

    I now take the sixers as my Eastern Champs

    Any slight chance that had of happening ended when Hawes limped his way through this season. But I can dream

    • sasquash20 - Mar 12, 2012 at 4:36 PM

      We have to move L.Williams. He can opt out of his deal at the end of the season. I don’t want to over pay for a good guy off the bench.

  17. glink123 - Mar 12, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Why doesn’t DeVos wake up and just fire Otis Smith? If he really wants to keep Howard, Smith has to go. Howard hates his effing guts. If I was a GM, I’d tell Orlando to eat it, after the way they’ve let this thing fester for over a year already. Howard is an unrestricted FA in like 7 weeks, then you can sign him and give up nothing. You’d be a complete fool to give up anything at this point.

    • gmsalpha - Mar 13, 2012 at 11:45 PM

      It’ll be really interesting to hear what Howard has to say about the Magic ownership and management once he’s wearing different colors. If he has anything positive to say about Otis Smith, I’ll be shocked.

  18. chiadam - Mar 12, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Is Howard that much of a coward? He really wants to run off and team up with James, Wade and Bosh. Look, I get that Howard is too stupid to understand that there in no way on Earth the Heat can wedge him under the cap, but I did not realize what a chickensh*t, spoiled brat he is. Shut the **** up for five consecutive minutes. Please. Just shut up.

  19. lakerluver - Mar 12, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    This dude is a PRIMA DONNA!!! Just go to the Nets already!! Even with D. Will they will never win a title. Howard’s gonna realize that he’s not the type of big man who can be the 1st option on a championship team. He’s a great player but he’s not Hakeem, Kareem, Duncan, Wilt, Moses, or Shaq.

  20. turrrds - Mar 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    I know he would never consider the Pacers, but how about this:

    Magic get: Danny Granger, Roy Hibbert, 2 first rounders

    Pacers get: Dwight Howard

    Pacers starters would be Darren Collison, George Hill, Paul George, David West, Dwight Howard. They would also have $14M in cap space to bring in players next season. (Eric Gordon maybe?)

    Magic get 2 All-Star caliber players, including the 2nd best C in the East. Starters could be Jameer Nelson, JJ Redick, Granger, Ryan Anderson, and Hibbert. They also get some cap relief, although they remain over the cap. Not a bad deal for either side IMO. I know I’m just dreaming though.

  21. glink123 - Mar 12, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    chiadam, best post I’ve seen on here in a loooong time. real talk, son.

  22. dirtybird2020 - Mar 13, 2012 at 1:50 AM

    Haha dwade for howard, looks like magic win, thats coming from a trye heat fan there, remember the only reason you losers even have a title worth mentioning is because of dwade, hes carried a team with the help of shaq, lebron couldnt carry a team with shaq, larry hughs in prime, moe williams, big z in prime, ben wallace in prime, antwawn jamison in prime, verajou, west in prime who banged lebrons mom just reminding you nutthuggers, and the list goes on, and your gonna trade wade, this is the definition Of a band wagoner, its safe to say you can safely bet against lebron

    • gmsalpha - Mar 13, 2012 at 11:48 PM

      What is a nuthugger? Talking about really tight underwear doesn’t make a lot of sense in a basketball post.

  23. passerby23 - Mar 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Assuming some of these rumors have some truth, what’s with these guys wanting to form super teams? What about the days of wanting to beat the likes of Lebron, Wade, and Kobe instead of just joining forces? Even if Lebron and Wade win the next three titles, there will still be an asterisk next to their names. It won’t be that impressive. When that’s your team, you are kind of expected to win. The message is clear: you couldn’t do as “the man” so just joined a super alliance to get your rings. Best move for Howard is Brooklyn.

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