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Would Danny Ainge really blow up the Celtics? Yes.

Jan 19, 2012, 10:11 AM EDT

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Go ahead and be sentimental for Paul Pierce. Think whatever you wish of Boston’s slow start this season and the potential of Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen to turn the ship around.

Just do not underestimate Danny Ainge’s willingness to blow the whole thing up.

It’s not that he wants to blow up this Celtics roster — he’s giving the team a chance right now to prove they can do it — but we are all influenced by our past, and Ainge’s past includes how the Celtics held on to its big three core too long at the end of the 1980s. Something it took the franchise a long time to overcome. He told the Boston Globe about that experience.

“I sat with Red [Auerbach] during a Christmas party [20 years ago]. Red was talking to Larry (Bird), Kevin (McHale), and myself, and there was a lot of trade discussion at the time, and Red actually shared some of the trade discussions. And I told Red, ‘What are you doing? Why are you waiting?’

“He had a chance to trade Larry [to Indiana] for Chuck Person and Herb Williams and [Steve] Stipanovich, and he had a chance to trade Kevin [to Dallas] for Detlef Schrempf and Sam Perkins. I was, like, ‘Are you kidding?’

“I mean, I feel that way now. If I were presented with those kinds of deals for our aging veterans, it’s a done deal, to continue the success.”

He says he has not gotten those kinds of offers yet, that in a larger NBA more teams are trying to rebuild and it’s harder to get young players for aging veterans.

But don’t think that if the Celtics are a .500 or worse team a month from now he would not blow this thing sky high. He would.

  1. silk32 - Jan 19, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    He already has. Ainge blew the Celtics up when he traded Kendrick Perkins. Now he is on par with the 76’ers GM who traded Brad Daugherty (1st pick in draft) for Roy Hinson and Danny Vranes. Could have been front line of Daugherty, Moses Malone and Charles Barkley.

    • pudgalvin - Jan 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM

      By the way, Daugherty was a career 20/10 guy. Not quite the same.

  2. pudgalvin - Jan 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    I’ve never seen so much love for a 5 and 5 center. Is there really no one else in the league the Celtics could find to replace that? Ainge didn’t exactly tear down a dynasty by trading away a back up center.

    • tcclark - Jan 19, 2012 at 12:41 PM

      Yeah they could’ve found someone to replace that for the league minimum this off season

      Kendrick Perkins – 26.7 mpg 5.4 ppg 5.9 rpg 1.2 bpg 8.73 PER
      Kwame Brown – 20.8 mpg 6.3 ppg 6.3 rpg 0 bpg 11.56 PER

      • tcclark - Jan 19, 2012 at 12:43 PM

        Ok not the minimum but the MLE would’ve worked.

  3. keyshawn22 - Jan 19, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    I agree he didnt tear down the dynasty by trading Perkins but he ruined their chances at a title last year by doing it. At the time of the trade the Celtics were in contention to be the number 1 seed and would have had a legit shot at winning it all. We all remember Wade and Lebron going right down the middle of their defense where Perkins used to be waiting. Ainge gambled that a 38 year oldvShaq would get healthy and lost.

    Trade Pierce and re-sign Allen and KG to reasonable 2 year contracts and try to bring in a top player with that cap space and their picks

    • pudgalvin - Jan 19, 2012 at 12:14 PM

      You’re right that it didn’t make them better, but they weren’t beating the Heat last year with or without Kendrick Perkins.

    • tcclark - Jan 19, 2012 at 12:26 PM

      I definitely agree with pudgalvin. Perkins isn’t anything special. He is a decent center. If Kwame Brown were a late first round pick, a lot of people would compare the two. Perkins is very good at one-on-one low post defense (much like Kwame). It was really beneficial when they played the Magic, but he averages 1 block a game for his career so his help defense against the Heat wouldn’t have helped out much. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t really rebound (averages less rebounds a game than Evan Turner), he’s just 6’10 270 lbs and can get in the way of Dwight Howard and now Andrew Bynum.

      • pudgalvin - Jan 19, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        And I get that it’s more than numbers that Perkins brings to the table. He was well liked by both the fans and his teammates. That’s important. But for both the team and the fans to be still be distraught over the trade and to say that’s why they lost last year and why there not good this year is really missing what’s happening. The big 3 are running out of tread on their tires, they’ve drafted poorly for years now, and the one superstar they do have isn’t the type to carry an offensive load for a team.

    • passerby23 - Jan 20, 2012 at 11:08 PM

      It’s still funny to hear people complain that the Celtics lost because they didn’t have Perkins. First of all, remember it was a highly competitive series until Rondo went down. They lost in overtime in Game 4 with a one-armed Rondo which would’ve tied the series. Second of all, they lost because they couldn’t score. In the Game 5 elimination game, the Celtics could not find the bottom of the net for 5 or 6 minutes in the fourth quarter. That will not get it done. Perkins would not have changed that. If anything, he would’ve been more of a liability.

      The Celtics should blow it up, but Jeff Green might’ve changed things a lot for the C’s this season.

  4. jimsjam33 - Jan 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    The Celts need a young super star to re-vitalize a decaying franchise . Some one like Durant or Griffin . Good luck trying to find one . It ain’t easy .

  5. LPad - Jan 19, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    I understand building for the future, but that Bird trade Red turned down would have been awful going forward. Chuck Person was a good shooter but you wouldn’t want to build around him and Herb Williams was a backup center by 1992, so you wouldn’t want to build around him. The Schrempf and Perkins for McHale trade would have been better and would of given them a nice forward rotation with Reggie Lewis before he passed away. But, that alone doesn’t make them a contender.

  6. ike73 - Jan 19, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    so danny ainge would have traded bird for chuck person, herb williams and whats his face? great. i feel so good about him being the GM of my team right now

    perhaps he could trade paul pierce for brian cardinal, darko milicic, and michael beasley

  7. silk32 - Jan 20, 2012 at 7:35 AM

    @pudgalvin In no way was I comparing Brad Daugherty to Kendrick Perkins. I was simply using the 76’ers as an analogy for how GMs can “make an easy play look hard.” The Celtics were contenders for the NBA title with Perkins. Without him they have not been the same since.

    By the way Danny Ainge, we know you are really “pudgalvin.” Nice try though.

  8. bozosforall - Jan 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    The Celtics SUCK…their crybaby fans just need to get used to it.

    • mikeewright7 - Jan 21, 2012 at 1:21 PM


  9. mikeewright7 - Jan 21, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Hopefully if they break up ray allen goes to the bulls, Bozo tell Kobe to stay away from white women

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