Comments on: Stop talking Rondo for Westbrook trade, it’s a bad idea

By: makjak2

makjak2 — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:59:06 +0000

nice post. Rose is electrifying and I love everything else about him (demeanor, leadership, etc.) but give me a Rondo or Paul over an inefficient volume shooting pg anyday.

By: leearmon

leearmon — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:00:39 +0000

I dont know, Monta Ellis clashed with a guy like Steph, imagine what would happen if Westbrook and Ellis played in the same backcourt. In the immortal words of Bill Walton “Yikes!” And if Steph can’t stay healthy why would OKC trade for him?

By: thetruth1313

thetruth1313 — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:52:48 +0000

I think Bozo is a Steelers “fan”, just like he is a Yankee “fan” and it wouldnt suprise me if he is a Laker “fan”.

Just a typical bandwagon fan who knows absolutely nothing.

By: anhdazman

anhdazman — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:55:31 +0000

Advantage for OKC if they got Rondo. He’ll make all the players in OKC better. Westbrook can continue to hog the ball in Boston to take some heat off of those old vets on their last legs.
Both PGs are Divas so there’s a push in that department.

By: ndrocks2

ndrocks2 — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:18:45 +0000

Rondo and Perkins are tight and Rondo wouldn’t be taking shots from Durant like Westbrook.

By: missmomo1

missmomo1 — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:15:08 +0000

You are way off. Though I believe Rondo should stay a Celtic, he would be perfect for OKC. You have a guy who’s just as athletic as Westbrook so he can slash through the lane and dismantle the defense. Rondo is obviously much more efficient with his shot selection and ball handling skills so less turnovers. Not to mention his ability to make his team mates better. I can only imagine how many points KD and James Harden would have with Rondo. Westbrook is very talented but he hasn’t really honed his skills yet so I don’t know why anyone would trade Rondo for him.

By: missmomo1

missmomo1 — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:00:33 +0000

For somebody who hates the Celtics, you sure know how to click on these articles and take the time to read them all. That’s just SAD. U need to have SEVERAL SEATS.

By: goforthanddie

goforthanddie — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:13:18 +0000

And all that relates to basketball…how?

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:40:42 +0000

I don’t care about the Jets. Besides the Giants have 3 Super Bowls AND 4 other NFL titles to their name. Also, the Pats took 42 years to win their first title, so yapping about a 42 year wait for the Jets when the Pats also had to wait as long is not only hypocritical but just ignorant.

By: bradyisbetterthanrodgers

bradyisbetterthanrodgers — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:58:45 +0000

bozo

yes the yankees own the sox. ill give u that but the pats own the yets. no superbowl for they yets for 42 years!!!! doesn’t look like a superbowl title is coming any time soon either. pats are on their way to another superbowl this year

By: andyreidisfat

andyreidisfat — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:25:58 +0000

I’m sorry to those obvious Boston fans who think rondo is better than westbrook, cuz ur flat out wrong.

Of course rondo has better career stats, heck he’s played the last 4 years with three hofers.

Let’s also not forget Westbrook is still getting better and rondo is what he is.

And while westy has some maturity issues no doubt, he can still grow out of that but rondo again is a jerk and will always be a jerk.

The final thing to me that’s most important when judging the two players is how they react to pressure. Both men have had problems with this. Yet the pressure on rondo has been far less as he is a 4 option, Westbrook however is a number 2 and sometimes the number 1 option.

So in the end I think the writer is right about rondo being a bad fit, just not for the reason he stated. However the celtics would get a steal if this trade happened.

The real trade that would help 2 teams is jeru holiday for Westbrook. If Westbrook was to be traded this is the deal that makes sense for both teAms. Okc gets a real pg who defends well and the sixers get a true scoring guard and allow turner to flourish as a point forward.

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:19:11 +0000

Not nearly as much as you New England turds are obsessed with any thing NYC. The Yankees owning your team for nearly a century now is something that you losers will never get over.

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:17:24 +0000

Nice OWNAGE.

By: jjacks1122

jjacks1122 — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:06:42 +0000

couldn’t agree more. You also still have Daequan Cook on the bench who would be a capable shooter off the bench to keep the floor spread

By: goforthanddie

goforthanddie — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:20:21 +0000

Says the goof plugging Tom Brady.
Here’s a hint: Next time you have nothing to say, go with it.

By: slopmcflop

slopmcflop — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:52:19 +0000

Look, this is a trade that could make sense, more so the Kurt wants to give it. I agree with that. BUT I also agree that it’ll never happen. Yes, Rondo slashing creates great opportunities for other players. But have you all forgotten that the whole spat the other night started because Westbrook drove and dished to a wide upon Sefolosha, who wimped out on the shot? Westbrook has averaged over 8 assists for the past two years. He’s not a terrible playmaker.

Yes, he gets into rapid fire modes. Yes, he gets frustrated at times. But the dude is only 23, with plenty of time to mature. And it’s not like the scoring champion of the past two years is suffering with Westbrook in the game. These two have the potential to be a lethal 1-2 punch for years to come, and like any relationship, there are growing pains.

But to say that them both being on the same team is toxic, and that one of them has to go, is just absurd. No one is saying that DWade and Lebron need to be split up, and they’ve had a few of the same issues. OKC is lucky to have these two guys, they don’t need to change things up. They just need to mature and gain experience. As is, they are already a popular pick to at least make it to the conference championship.

By: a185

a185 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:10:30 +0000

Rondo makes people round him better…? you mean the big 3, the 3 guys that have been All-Stars multiple times before Rondo entered the league, you mean the 3 guys who’ll someday be in the Hall of Fame… former MVP KG, best 3 point shooter in NBA history Ray Allen and Most points scored by a Celtic Paul Pierce… yeah he sure made them better… where would they be in their careers without Rondo. If he could make Kerry Kittles, Keith Van Horn and Kenyon Martin look like All-Stars then you could say he makes people better… so far he hasn’t done that… you really think it matters who passes Ray Allen, KG or Paul Pierce the ball… they’d score regardless. In fact since playing with Rondo all of their scoring numbers are down so he makes them worse.

By: mikep363839

mikep363839 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:07:53 +0000

Westbrook is the better fit for now..come post season he takes the ball out of KD hands and becomes erratic. The Thunder are banking on him growing up and becoming a pure point guard, thats not happening. Rondos a better fit in my opinion but Westbrook is 23 with a higher ceiling. no way im giving up on Westbrooks potential. Arguing with KD will get his a$$ shipped out though, thats KD team and Westbrook better recognize.

By: bradyisbetterthanrodgers

bradyisbetterthanrodgers — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:56:52 +0000

bozosforall is obsessed with boston sports

By: lilrock9

lilrock9 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:35:08 +0000

I disagree with these thoughts. Not only is rondo better but then you can insert Harden into the starting lineup & Durant will become a better player ( scary Huh). Also more shots for Durant simply because of less turnovers.

By: thatboi901

thatboi901 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:35:03 +0000

To say Rondo wouldn’t fit in OKC is crazy. Can you imagine how many easy points will be available in the post with Rondo being PG? The problem with the Thunder is that Westbrook thinks he is better than Durant and refuses to be 2nd option. This could turn into a disaster for them come playoff time.

By: goforthanddie

goforthanddie — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:20:53 +0000

If Westbrook and Durant can’t play nice together, I dare say Rondo is a much better fit. That should go w/o saying, but…

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:12:46 +0000

Nobody wants Rondo really. Let Boston be stuck with building around him once the “Big Three” get sent to the old folks home. Many years of the Celtics sucking soon to follow. LMAO

By: leearmon

leearmon — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:55:37 +0000

I agree 100%with jmclarkent. Rondo is an absolute better fit for OKC than Westbrook. For one Rondo is a far superior defender than Westbrook. More importantly however, the fascination with Guards who score in bunches without a high efg% (like Westbrook and Rose) have yet to EVER I repeat EVER win a championship. Period. Now to the points about “bad fit”, Rondo makes his teammates better by getting them the ball in spots where they can succeed. I have no doubt that a player like Ibaka would have his offensive numbers increase with a guy like Rondo driving looking to set up his teammates rather than looking for his own shot.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=westbru01&y1=2012&p2=rondora01&y2=2012

Its clear here Rondo IS the better shooter. I’ll repeat BETTER SHOOTER THAN WESTBROOK, higher TS% higher efg% lower usage, higher offensive rating, better defender, better offensive and defensive win shares, and WS/48 is not even close. Kurt I know you’re not big on advanced stats, but the evidence is hard to ignore.

In any situation, give me the point guard who makes his teammates better, who can penetrate defenses and not only finish at a high rate, but also has the court vision and awareness to set others up. Rondo would be the perfect fit in OKC, and Westbrook’s brand of exciting scoring combination may be enough to keep the C’s a contender once the Big 3 call it quits. A trade could easily work since Westbrook will be looking to re-sign at the end of this season/offseason maybe a few pieces or picks could be exchanged but to say it wouldn’t fit, or it couldn’t work is asinine.

By: bparmalee

bparmalee — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:46:11 +0000

I think you have to look at (what appears to be) Westbrook’ make up… he wouldnt do well in Boston. The reason Rondo works with Garnett and Peirce is because he is a pass first PG…. Westbrook is far from that. If he clashes with Durant..could you imagine the battles him and KG would have? In the end he will be a restricted free agent so they can wait and see. A player like Steph Curry makes more sense for OKC than Rondo does anyways.

By: jmclarkent

jmclarkent — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:23:30 +0000

Thunder wouldn’t do it in the first place — Rondo is a poor fit in Oklahoma City. Westbrook works there because he is a scoring point guard and the Thunder need his shooting and points from the perimeter (and on drives). Rondo is not a shooter, he’s a slasher. Put Rondo in the back court with Thabo Sefolosha and now you have two guys who are not threats with the outside shot.

I disagree – I think that it would actually work well. If you get Rondo, you bench Thabo and start Harden to make up for the differential in firepower.