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Rose, Durant go different path with contracts than LeBron

Dec 23, 2011, 11:01 AM EDT

Chicago Bulls Derrick Rose attends news conference in Chicago Reuters

When LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade came up for contract extensions, they all asked for three-year deals, or options that let them opt out of their deals after three years. The idea was simple — gain leverage over the team, pressure them to build a winner or they could lose their star. (We all know how that turned out.)

Those three were part of the trend — Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire all had early opt outs.

Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant didn’t go that way. Both players went for the full five-year deal, no opt-outs.

Rose could have had an opt-out from the Bulls, reports Brian Windhorst at ESPN’s TrueHoop. The Bulls would have given Rose anything he wanted — up to and including a small Caribbean island — but that’s not the way he wanted it.

“Most players of Derrick’s stature who are signing contracts, there are usually player options or early termination options within those,” Bulls general manager Gar Forman said. “Derrick absolutely didn’t want that. He wanted a full commitment from the Bulls. To us, that’s really special. He stepped up to sign the maximum length.”

“We had (an opt-out) in the contract, it was already negotiated,” said Durant’s agent, Aaron Goodwin. “Kevin asked us to take it out. He said the team was fully committed to him and that he should be fully committed to the team.”

LeBron clearly didn’t have full faith in the Cavaliers or GM Danny Ferry. Same for Stoudemire with the Suns and Bryan Colangelo. And you can make the argument that those franchises didn’t earn or deserve that trust front them.

Rose and Durant have that trust. They are different guys who want different things than their predecessors. Chicago and Oklahoma City should remember how lucky they are.

  1. themanchine - Dec 23, 2011 at 11:07 AM


  2. bigtganks - Dec 23, 2011 at 11:18 AM

    What? Not taking a max contract, but taking less money?

    Had Rose or Durant been drafted in Cleveland, (and no one else wants to join the team because it’s… in Cleveland), then Rose and Durant would leave too. Who’s to say Rose or Durant don’t leave or want out in a few years too? It hasn’t been seven years for them yet.

    • narrabeen23 - Dec 23, 2011 at 11:22 AM

      dude, durant was drafted by oklahoma city. that’s just as small a market as cleveland, and durant chose to stay…

      • jjacks1122 - Dec 23, 2011 at 11:58 AM

        he was drafted by the Seattle Supersonics…

      • socaldrew - Dec 23, 2011 at 3:56 PM

        Really?? The Seattle Supersonics… do you know where they are now? Oklahoma City.

      • yanivvinay - Dec 23, 2011 at 3:57 PM

        jjacks: who cares if he was drafted by seattle, point is he signed the extension with Oklahoma city…

  3. Gordon - Dec 23, 2011 at 11:26 AM

    That’s a refreshing approach by these guys. Both teams also have pretty good GMs who have built solid teams around their superstars.

    • derekjetersmansion - Dec 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM

      Cleveland did too…

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

      The Chicago GM is so brilliant he gave Carlos Boozer a max contract. Carlos Boozer, by the way, is a guy who lied to the face of his blind owner and royally screwed over the city of Cleveland.

  4. allball23 - Dec 23, 2011 at 12:12 PM

    Rose and Durant, are loyal players that want to stick with their team. They also have good GMs that are building great teams around the players. I both are on the path to being future hall of famers will win a couple of championships before they hang it up.

  5. mistercharitystripe34 - Dec 23, 2011 at 12:45 PM

    As much as it’s fun for everyone to pick on LeBron, Cleveland did have seven years to bring or draft him some help. I do think James did quit in the last two Boston playoff games, which is utterly remarkable or inexcusable for a player of his caliber. The Cavs totally dropped the ball by surrounding him with duds like Wally Sczerbiak (sp?) and Ricky Davis.

    Derrick Rose was a no-brainer #1 pick for the Bulls, who already had solid pieces in place for a good team (Noah, Deng, Gordon, Heinrich). Gar Forman and Paxson were smart in not screwing things up by steadily getting guys like Boozer, Brewer, Asik, Gibson and Korver to provide proven talent and very good depth. Stealing Thibodeau from the Celtics and Hamilton from the Pistons were the frosting and cherry on the cake.

  6. 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

    Just so you know, in Miami we know how lucky we are too.

    • goforthanddie - Dec 23, 2011 at 2:15 PM

      Yep, nice weather down there. Shame about the pro sports teams though.

      • alekezam - Dec 30, 2011 at 4:33 PM


  7. mondzy805 - Dec 23, 2011 at 12:52 PM

    Two special players, that will win a title for their citys. You have two love these Two. As a Bulls fan, I know we do.

  8. a185 - Dec 23, 2011 at 1:34 PM

    You can’t say they’ll win… Allen Iverson committed to his team the 76ers and they never surrounded him with enough talent and the year they made it to the finals AI led them… which D Rose failed to do with a better team so I don’t know if you can say he’ll win like its a no brainer.

  9. dirtybird2020 - Dec 23, 2011 at 1:50 PM

    How you gonna say they didnt put talent around that bum, if he winked at a player they got him the player, heres a list for all you queers making excuses for that bum.
    Ben wallace, larry huhges(prime), big z(prime), drew gooden, shaq(bum), devonte west( he banged lebrons mom), mo williams, antwan jamison, wally(busting 3’s) all these players at the time anyone would want on their team(minus shaq) and theres more not mentioning their version of noah, lebron sucks cant win win with these teams winning best records then he cant win ever! Lebrons a bum, rose, durrant are the real deal wan their own team to carry not let wade carry the load and then lookto him to answer when asked about choking after the finals! Rose even takes blame for his play screw lebron

    • 00maltliquor - Dec 23, 2011 at 4:01 PM

      Get real! LOL You are either delusional or a poor judge of talent.

  10. goforthanddie - Dec 23, 2011 at 2:18 PM

    Rose and Durant have the internal fortitude (read: BALLS) to say “Build around me, I’m the man”. leb doesn’t have that.

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 23, 2011 at 2:31 PM

      When you’re in your 3rd or 4th year, it’s easy to have the “balls” to say build around me. After 7 years, when you’ve gone from early 20s to late 20s, and the next best player on your team stinks, and your team has no cap flexibility, and your owner has absolutely zero class, and your city is…well let’s just say, less enjoyable than others, you might start to think.

    • tebow4lyf - Dec 23, 2011 at 5:24 PM

      pretty sure thats what he did in cleveland but they didnt, hence why he left

      • philtration - Dec 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM

        Pretty sure you are wrong.
        LeBron went to Miami to let Wade win him a ring.

        He has never been man enough to win one with him being the focal point.
        He shrivels under the pressure.

  11. 00maltliquor - Dec 23, 2011 at 3:53 PM

    Don’t praise them too much, Rose got drafted by big market hometown Chicago and actually had decent teammates while Durant’s organization drafted very well and made very smart moves to put a very attractive team around him.

    Don’t think for a second that if Rose was drafted by the Toronto Raptors and Durant by the Charlotte Bobcats that we would be having these same conversations. This is just a matter of good circumstances.

    And you can thumb down all you want and be in denial, but all of you know deep down that this is the truth.

  12. bigtrav425 - Dec 23, 2011 at 5:28 PM

    to say that the Cavs didnt do anything to earn or deserve his trust is beyond Asinine and shows you have not read anything about what was going on in cleveland….LBJ got anything he and his boys wanted more or less!…Maybe..just maybe if he would of “recruited” other players or help to,we could of gotten a few more better players! But this Douche Bag did none of that and then when he couldnt commit to more then 3 yrs that killed anything we could of gotten to help him! So before you make or throw out opinions like that make sure they are atleast somewhat valid

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 23, 2011 at 5:56 PM

      Would you want to play for Dan Gilbert/Danny Ferry, or Mickey Arison/Pat Riley. Gilbert is your problem, not Lebron.

      • bigtrav425 - Dec 24, 2011 at 11:56 PM

        gilbert hands down..throw in the fact that you have a city that has ppl that actually goes to games and cares about the team your playing on…something that Miami does not have at all

  13. charlutes - Dec 23, 2011 at 5:58 PM

    I firmly beileve that as a society we are losing sight of the game, which is really the only thing that matters.

    The value of excersise through athletic competition is a force of purpose and self improvement, an outlet for aggression, a stage for ballet.

    Blimps, banners, stadiums, TV coverage, cupholders, consession stands, merchandise, team logos, throwback jerseys…none of that has anything to do with the value of sport at its core.

    None of that will improve the quality of play. All of those things aim to improve the quality of the entertainment experience surrounding the game.

    And that is fine. Until the game becomes nothing more than a soap opera. The centerpiece of the entertainment experience.

    Maximize profitability. More teams, more merchandising, more everything.

    I’m a believer in the art of sport, and I’m having more and more trouble seeing it through the mist of cash grabs every year.

    Its getting harder to identify guys like Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant, who seem to embody sports at its highest level.

    Remarkable talents.

    I will be cheering hard for an OKC/BULLS finals this year. I’m not bandwagon jumping I just live in Toronto. Which means every year I pick a winning team to cheer for, when I’m not watching the Raptors get shredded.

  14. harrcwwh - Dec 23, 2011 at 6:34 PM

    “LeBron clearly didn’t have full faith in the Cavaliers or GM Danny Ferry. Same for Stoudemire with the Suns and Bryan Colangelo. And you can make the argument that those franchises didn’t earn or deserve that trust front them.”

    Um no. Dan Gilbert and the city of Cleveland did everything imaginable to convince LeBron they were committed to him. LeBron losing faith in the Cavaliers/GM Danny Ferry? No. LeBron does not care about winning or the glory that would come by bringing a championship to a passionate sports-tormented city such as Cleveland. He only cares about his celebrity status and what other people think of him. As Dan Gilbert correctly stated, LeBron is a narcissist and more importantly, a quitter. Rose and Durant have shown they are a different mold of human being than LeBron, men with class, integrity and an insatiable desire to win; qualities that LeBron does not and will never hold.

  15. brooklynbulls - Dec 23, 2011 at 7:08 PM

    Jordan AND Rose? The fans of the Bulls are lucky indeed! Dont know how great this kid can be, but as of yet I have no complaints. He gets better every year and you have to love his work ethic and humility.

  16. edweird0 - Dec 23, 2011 at 7:41 PM


    What’s there to be ashamed for? Last time I checked my sports team made it to the finals last year & are more likely than not to repeat this season. That’s something to be proud of last time I checked.

  17. mnsinger - Dec 23, 2011 at 8:25 PM

    Oh, please. Call me in two years when Carlos Boozer is called “Carlos Boozer’s expiring contract” and the Bulls win 45 games with no cap space. Derrick Rose will be requesting a trade to whatever team has a chance to win a title and young assets to trade for him. Everyone here is delusional. LeBron re-signed an extension with Cleveland in 2008 as the team was still on the rise and he was the sweetheart of pro sports.

    Rose and Durant are still in the honeymoon stage (like LeBron was at one point) because everything has worked out perfect so far. Once their teams are all capped out and start sliding backwards, we’ll see if they want to spend their whole career without a chance to win a title. See: Nash, Stephen.

    • abasketballthing - Dec 26, 2011 at 1:44 PM

      While Rose and Durant have already shown more humility and passion for the game than LeBron did in this 4th year in the league, they also have great contending, rising teams and little reason to look somewhere else.

      You’re wrong about Rose. Being in Chicago, if he ever wants things to change, he’ll ask management to trade for a star, instead of leaving as a free agent. Many will want to go to Chicago to play with Rose. It’s unlikely things will ever get to that point, anyway. The Bulls have a very complete team and an excellent coach. They’ll probably win a championship soon. Mike Brown was a good defensive coach who didn’t have much offense and let LeBron do what he wanted. Thibodeau is the absolute best defensive coach in the league and has a good relationship with Rose. If anything, the Bulls will stay a contender without winning a ring, until an trade or FA opportunity comes up and they get the player(s) that get them over the hump.

      Durant’s case is also different. He has a very good, young supporting cast and a co-star that are all growing with him. LeBron never had anything like that. When they reach their peak in one or two years, the Thunder will be better than LeBron’s Cavs ever were. It should also be noted that, since they have grown together as players, the Thunder’s core is very close, and they’re treated as equals. In Cleveland, LeBron was treated as a king, and the team was build to fit his skills and preferences. He didn’t really have someone he could relate to, like he does now in Miami with Wade. That was probably part of the reason why he didn’t feel the need to stay. He was leaving a team in which he was praised, but also charged with leading a team by himself. Don’t get me wrong, I think his supporting cast was more than good enough, and that if he had stayed there, he would’ve eventually won a championship; But he was vastly superior to the team’s second best player, and pretty much the only leader the team had on the court. As many have said, he went to miami to play with his friends, win rings, and not have to be “the man”. In Miami, he has friends, a great, great team, and another star who leads the team with him, shares the pressure with him and is equally responsible for crunch time execution. KD already has all of that in OKC. No reason to go anywhere else.

  18. ortonsneckbeard - Dec 24, 2011 at 1:07 AM

    Charlutes you are a man among posters. Sorry about Toronto, though.

  19. jagwar73 - Dec 24, 2011 at 1:25 AM

    I don’t care who they were drafted by, it’s great to see these players say “Build around me, I don’t want to be remembered as Scottie Pippen”.
    If you can’t win in your city for your team, that’s essentially what you’re saying, “I give up. I can’t be the man. I’ll go be Robin somewhere else”.
    More respect to Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant for welcoming the challenge!

  20. Jeff - Dec 24, 2011 at 7:19 AM

    Let’s see Rose sign a 5-year extension for a small-market team before we put him on a pedestal.
    At this point I have more respect for Durant.

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