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Chris Paul is a Clipper and the Lakers are pissed off

Dec 15, 2011, 8:01 AM EST

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The Los Angeles Lakers lost a battle for a superstar with the Los Angeles Clippers. The last time that happened… come on, that never happened before.

But now Chris Paul is a Clipper and the Lakers are pissed off.

Not really at the Clippers, who Lakers fans never had a rivalry with — they view the Clippers more like your annoying college roommate. And not with CP3, who just wanted out of a bad situation and to find a good one.

The Lakers and their fans are pissed at David Stern.

The Lakers had a trade in place to acquire Paul in a three team trade until Stern killed the deal because small market owners complained that the Lakers were getting better of basketball reasons. Now they see CP3 trade go through and, while you can argue it’s better for a rebuilding Hornets team, you can’t argue that the first trade didn’t give New Orleans real assets. Here is what Mike Bresnahan wrote at the Los Angeles Times.

The Lakers were privately fuming Wednesday, according to a person with knowledge of their front office, when Paul, the New Orleans point guard, ended up in Los Angeles six days after the NBA vetoed the Lakers’ trade for him.

Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak declined to comment through a spokesman but earlier this week said the NBA’s blockade was “completely unexpected.”

Lakers fans have a right to be ticked — but then they need to get over it.

Yes, Stern’s actions in killing the first trade were political not basketball related. It was about appeasing small market owners (and a few big market ones) because those owners wish they had big-move poker playing style of the Lakers.

But the fact is the bigger and better fish — Dwight Howard — is still out there. As great as Paul is, Howard is better and a better fit for Los Angeles. He has to become the focus now. Land him and all is forgotten. Don’t get him and Lakers fans are going to have a lot more anger.

  1. addict2sport - Dec 15, 2011 at 8:18 AM

    If the Lakers give up Bynum and Gasol to get Howard I think, then, you’d see Laker fans REALLY pissssed. Howard is great but not worth Bynum and Gasol (and Odom if you count the “cap saving” giveaway move).

  2. idontevenwannaknow - Dec 15, 2011 at 8:35 AM

    So the lakers are “pissed”? Who actually thinks, aside from lakers fans, that a trade involving thirty somethings for a superstar is a superior trade to the one they landed from the clippers? Martin would have been the highlight of that trade, gordon can be better, heck, he might already be a better player, and that draft pick the hornets received? Basically expected to be top 10, much better than that pick the hornets would have had from the lakers trade.

    The lakers were trying to secure the services of paul by basically giving up guys who were nearing the end of their careers. If the lakers are “pissed” about anything, they should be upset that they were not allowed to pretty much steal paul away from the hornets like what happened in that gasol trade a few years back.

    I’m glad the NBA nixed this lakers trade after I have seen the result of this “CP3 saga”. The hornets now are more enticing to a buyer (I’m sure the only ones that would disagree with that are laker fans), more potential on this team than before this trade (or a trade involving the lakers) and a much better (t-wolves) draft pick than they would have received from the lakers trade.

    The Hornets won, because the NBA held firm in their (maybe misguided) belief that paul was worth more than the lakers were offering. Was it a PR disaster? Sure, but now that it is complete, let’s enjoy some other team in LA not named the lakers.

    • sguy2130 - Dec 15, 2011 at 8:45 AM

      Exactly, you couldn’t have said it any better, get a clue (yes I’m referring to you Kurt Helin). The Lakers trade was basically robbery. At least NO got some young pieces now which is in the franchises best interest. Do you really think NO could build around an aging Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom…I mean really? Not to mention I doubt those two would stick around in NO.

      • bozosforall - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:03 AM

        Pau Gasol was going to Houston in that Lakers trade, moron.

      • cpaulii - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:51 AM

        are you insane or don’t know about basketball? Gasol, Odom, Okafor, Ariza, Bellinelli, Landry, Marcus Bank, Aaron Gray, jjack, Willie Green, Marcus Thorton, David west is not a better team than what they have now ?? or what they’ll have in the next 5 years?
        Now, from the point of view of selling the team ( financial), you want to lower the contracts to make it easier to get a new owner, not because the basketball decision.

        you can put together all the picks that NO got now, and they’ll never accomplish what Gasol and Odom have done..

    • Chris Fiorentino - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:00 AM

      It’s 8:57 and the thumbs up/down are 5-0 for your comments. Which are exactly what my comments on here have been since the trade was cancelled by the league and yet, I routinely got a 1-5 ratio of up to down. I guess it’s still a little early out in la-la land and once they all wake up and see this, your ratio will slowly get negative.

      However, you are right-on with what you are saying. The only thing I would add would be that the Lackers trade would have been better for the Hornets for this year…but in three years, with two of the top 5 or 7 picks from next year’s draft + Gordon, the Hornets will be far better off with this deal. FAR BETTER OFF.

      • bozosforall - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:09 AM

        Just goes to show how lame the “Thumbs Up/Down” button really is.

      • bozosforall - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:43 AM

        As does the totals above.

    • pl4tinum514 - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:04 AM

      couldn’t possibly agree more.

  3. mondzy805 - Dec 15, 2011 at 8:42 AM

    Who cares what the Lakers think. As a Clippers fans, I don’t care what that Old and Slow team has to say. They had their time. Time waits for no one. Go Clippers.

    • philtration - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:02 AM

      A Clippers fan can never, and I mean NEVER talk smack about the Lakers.
      Hell… you can’t make fun of any other team.

      A one-dimensional player (Blake Griffin) who will probably be gone as soon as he can sign with a new team does not make you the standard of the NBA all of a sudden.

      • stoutfiles - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:01 AM

        If the Clippers become the better LA team I will laugh and laugh.

      • bozosforall - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:44 AM

        You must be a Mets fan.

  4. blueintown - Dec 15, 2011 at 8:46 AM

    It’s Hip to Clip.

  5. dirtybird2020 - Dec 15, 2011 at 8:47 AM

    Lakers didnt get what they want, and now the fans cry about!?!? Big woop, you guys are like the annoying roomate whis parents get them everything they want and dont know how to deal with things when they dont go their way! Man the efff up laker fans! I like the clippers better anyways, last i knew queers wore purple! Im that annoying friend who laughs in your face when you start crying hahaha, welcome to rebuilding and not having the pieces to do it

    • bozosforall - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:08 AM

      Queers call themselves “dirty bird” (a euphamism for “dicks that spend all their time in other guys’ bungholes”). Choke on that, loser.

    • pl4tinum514 - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:08 AM

      I dont understand all the Stern bashing. The trade was garbage the first time around, and they had every right to veto it. Gordon and a top 10 pick, or Scola (old) Odom (getting old) and Martin (always injured)? Seems pretty f–king obvious to me.

      • bozosforall - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:42 AM

        Lame analysis, whiny Laker hater.

      • cpaulii - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:54 AM

        again..
        Gasol, Odom, Okafor, Ariza, Bellinelli, Landry, Marcus Bank, Aaron Gray, jjack, Willie Green, Marcus Thorton, David west is not a better team than what they have now ?? or what they’ll have in the next 5 years?
        Now, from the point of view of selling the team ( financial), you want to lower the contracts to make it easier to get a new owner, not because the basketball decision.

    • blueintown - Dec 15, 2011 at 11:37 AM

      What I don’t understand is all the homoerotic vernacular. What are we, 13?

  6. nauhurdler - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:08 AM

    Waa Waaa Waaaaaa to the Lakers fans, sorry that for once in your long history you weren’t able to steal a top talent away from a small market team, get over it

  7. karlton2 - Dec 15, 2011 at 9:10 AM

    So basically:

    1) Stern and Gilbert were right that there were better offers out there; and

    2) the Lakers are mad that they had to compete with offers outside the artificially created market consisting of themselves, New York (who had nothing) and Boston, which greatly reduced Paul’s value?

    My heart is breaking.

  8. djanarchy757 - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:00 AM

    so after this trade where does Billups fit in to this roster??? back up PG???

    • stoutfiles - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM

      Billups can play SG, assuming he wants to play there. I don’t know why all teams don’t have two people at the top that are skilled passers instead of the usual ball-hogging SG.

  9. leearmon - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:05 AM

    I find it odd that so many people seem to think this Clippers deal is better for the Hornets, than the Lakers deal, in terms of on the court product. We all know, the Clips deal is better due to the young prospects being cheaper labor and further away from free agency, but as far as a winning product on the floor the Lakers deal was far better IMHO.

    I know he’s only played one season, but Al-Farouq Aminu doesnt seem to have a future of becoming an elite to All-Star talent. He reminds me a lot like Ryan Gomes. A very solid NBA player, but nothing out of the ordinary. So lets not act like he is some type of huge “get”. He is still young, so I could easily be wrong, (wont be the first time) but there was nothing that he showed last season, or in college to make me think otherwise.

    Chris Kaman is a straight salary dump, we all know that. So while this is great for a financially struggling franchise, I dont see Kaman making this team better. Then we have Eric Gordon. I know he has shown flashes, especially last season, but lets not overlook he has still yet to play a full NBA season due to injuries, and his TS% has dropped in each of his seasons. How some of you can call Gordon a better player than Kevin Martin is kind of laughable. Again, maybe Gordon becomes better, but as it stands now Martin has a higher TS%, higher PER, better defender, commits fewer turnovers all the while having a lower usage rate:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=gordoer01&y1=2011&p2=martike02&y2=2011

    Again, Gordon could improve he’s only entering his 4th season, with last season being by far his best, however you could argue he had his best season last year, due to the fact that he was playing with a great player (Blake Griffin) who was the focal point of opposing defenses. In NO he will become their number 1 option so it wouldn’t surprise me to see his numbers drop again.

    Then add Scola ,who is getting old, but is still a very good player who obviously is vastly underrated by the mainstream media and casual fans, in addition to Odom, & the Hornets would have been in the playoff hunt this season. Again, I know the Clipper deal puts them in a potentially better position moving forward, mainly because of Minny’s unprotected 1st round pick, but the notion that from an on the court standpoint the Lakers deal was inferior is just absurd in my opinion.

    • bozosforall - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:40 AM

      Great analysis, leearman

  10. mgscott - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    Cry me a river.

  11. bozosforall - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:39 AM

    “But the fact is the bigger and better fish — Dwight Howard — is still out there. As great as Paul is, Howard is better and a better fit for Los Angeles. He has to become the focus now. Land him and all is forgotten. Don’t get him and Lakers fans are going to have a lot more anger.”

    Get the Magic to throw in Nelson in exchange for a draft pick and Chris Paul won’t be missed at all.

    Or just get Baron Davis to come home and play for the hometown heroes.

    Either way, Lakers win.

    • stoutfiles - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:57 AM

      Unless the Lakers sell the farm for Dwight, there’s no way they’ll let L.A. take their star center again. It would be a PR disaster. Sorry L.A., they’ll just use your offer to make the Nets offer better, that’s where he’s inevitably going.

      • beavertonsteve - Dec 15, 2011 at 4:47 PM

        They didn’t LET the Lakers take their star center last time. The Lakers just done gone and took him without asking.

        This time the Lakers are trying to send some decent pieces Orlando’s way. You can argue about the value of the pieces, but in the end it’s pretty simple-

        Shaq for nothing = bad

        Howard for something (most likely something valuable) = better

  12. klownboy - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    If I were the Lakers, I would have Stern’s arse on a platter. By the way, Dan Gilbert needs to STFU.

    http://theklowntimes.net/2011/12/15/the-lakers-have-to-be-pissed/

  13. boiler72 - Dec 15, 2011 at 11:03 AM

    How many championships do the Lakers have, and they’re pissed because something good finally happened to the Clippers? F the Lakers. I’m a life-long Bucks fan, but the Clippers just became my 2nd-fave team and I hope they bounce Kobe’s head off the rim.

  14. BrownsTown - Dec 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM

    Kurt,

    Stop being a joke for a sec, please. if the Hornets had a real owner, which trade do you think they’d take? The one from the Lakers or the ones from the Clippers?

    Exactly, now quit whining.

  15. rushbacker - Dec 15, 2011 at 12:02 PM

    Wah. I’m sure they’ll live.

  16. ftbfan76 - Dec 15, 2011 at 12:49 PM

    In a related news, Kobie has now requested a trade to the Clippers.

  17. tampajoey - Dec 15, 2011 at 12:59 PM

    Awwwwww… the Lakers are pissed they lost out to a “big market” team. TOO FREAKING BAD!

  18. dirtybird2020 - Dec 15, 2011 at 1:18 PM

    A queer took offence, you took it good but you forgot to swallow! Dumb queer dont know basket ball saying howards a better fit than pau, so you would have howard and bynum running the 4 & 5 ! What a idiot, bozo didnt do much but play with kids and handle balls, something their current pgs dont know how to do, not to mention theres about as much cartilage in kobes knees as there is possabiltys in this guys starting lineup! Sounds like your boyfriend didnt buy you that cute purple jersey you wanted and are throwing a fit, true bandwagon laker fan throwing their current players under the bus, im sure you wouldnt have said a word if your boyfriends zipper wasnt stuck! This is where you swallow clown!!!!

  19. dirtybird2020 - Dec 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM

    Haha love bozos trade offer, he thinks lakers draftpicks just grow on trees, baron davis haha he will get claused and picked up by a team under salary cap, which lakers arent, clearly this guy dont watch basketball or basketball news, this is a bandwagoners dream team! A pretty pathetic, go play with your bf, queers exit the room, theres no place for them in basketball ask suns gm! You must be thinking of volleyball (a queers favorite sport) with bynum and howard starting! This guys a joke and too easy too bust on, you can even ask his boyfriend! Wipe that mess off your face!

  20. dirtybird2020 - Dec 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM

    Haha love bozos trade offer, he thinks lakers draftpicks just grow on trees, baron davis haha he will get claused and picked up by a team under salary cap, which lakers arent, clearly this guy dont watch basketball or basketball news, this is a bandwagoners dream team! A pretty pathetic, go play with your bf, queers exit the room, theres no place for them in basketball ask suns gm! You must be thinking of volleyball (a queers favorite sport) with bynum and howard starting! This guys a joke and too easy too bust on, you can even ask his boyfriend! Wipe that mess off your face!

  21. tampajoey - Dec 15, 2011 at 5:50 PM

    Stern and Dan Gilbert were right and the New Orleans Hornets are in a better situation now because the Lakers trade was vetoed. It’s NOT always about the big market super teams getting their way at the expense of small market teams.

    Hey Lakers fans, now you know how it feels to be a Toronto, Cleveland, New Orleans and Denver fan. Especially after Kobe demands a trade within a few weeks and he creates a new super team in another Big Market city not named L.A.

    I lOVE IT!

  22. hoytdadd64 - Dec 15, 2011 at 7:22 PM

    #’s don’t lie and youth is not always better, depending on how you look at each deal will determine your choice, do you want proven #’s you can compete with now, or do you want possible potential that might turn into something down the road? remember not every draft pick turns into a superstar or even a mid level player, and not every gm is good at judging the future talent of a player. in my opinion the lakers, rockets deal was fair, the clippers deal was a gamble but one that helped stern save face and still put cp3 into a big market, through the back door that is…

  23. chadinkc30 - Dec 15, 2011 at 10:30 PM

    I DIDN’T REALIZE ITS MORE IMPORTANT TO SAY YOU’RE LOOKING TO WIN IN FUTURE THAN WIN NOW, EVEN IF ITS A #7 OR #8 SEED. ITS BETTER THAN SAYING, ” WE GOT SOME NICE YOUNG PIECES”. ISNT THAT EXACTLY WHAT THE CLIPPERS OF THE WORLD IS SAYING FOR 20 YEARS

    • tampajoey - Dec 16, 2011 at 12:20 AM

      Because when you’re a small market team you have to plan and build for the future. Unlike big market teams that can just buy superstar players every year.

      You know, doing it the Yankees, NY Knicks, Miami Heat, Lakers (Shaq) way. Superstar players with their out-of-control egos gravitate towards playing in big market cities in today’s NBA to feed their ego.

      Lebron didn’t go to Miami to join the Heat, he went to Miami to be in the city of Miami. Melo didn’t go to New York because of the Knicks, he joined the Knicks to be in New York. You big market fans need to get over yourself. These superstar players don’t come to your city for your team. They come to your big market city for the big market media and the limelight. Pay Lebron $50 million and he’ll play for Miami High School as long as ESPN was there to cover it.

      And don’t try to tell me that small market teams don’t pay their players and that’s why they leave for big market teams or I’ll post some team salary stats and make you look stupid.

      (Oh, and typing in caps is annoying)

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