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Report: Lakers will not trade Bynum and Gasol for Howard

Dec 11, 2011, 5:42 PM EST

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The Lakers are starting to play a little hardball in their negotiations. Or at least threatening to.

First they pull out of the Chris Paul trade, surprising the Hornets and Rockets, and now this nugget from the well connected Kevin Ding of the Orange County Register.

I’m told the Lakers will not be trading Bynum and Gasol for Howard.

One or the other, not both.

It’s really hard to make the numbers work without Bynum and Gasol or Lamar Odom, who the Lakers are about to trade to the Mavericks. Remember that the Magic are going to want to move the bloated contract of Hedo Turkoglu — three years, $32 million — as part of this deal so the Lakers have to send out enough salary to take it all back.

You can do it with Bynum (or Gasol, but the Magic would want the younger big) and Metta World Peace (Ron Artest) and Luke Walton, but do you really think the Magic would go for that?

It’s why the trade of Odom is confusing — they need him as a trade chip. Odom and Bynum (plus picks or other filler) makes way more sense for a rebuilding Orlando than World Peace and Walton. What would make the most sense for them is Gasol, but the Lakers are trying to avoid that option (they would have almost no front court depth).

So why did the Lakers trade Odom? Ding explains.

Lamar Odom requested the Lakers to trade him Friday, which was a driving force to them moving him in the deal to the Dallas Mavericks for a first-round pick, trade exception and other considerations in a deal not yet finalized.

The Lakers didn’t want a disgruntled Odom at his $8.9 million salary and believe they can acquire a new third big man to play behind Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol.

  1. Rish77 - Dec 11, 2011 at 6:06 PM

    As a Celtics fan, I almost wish that the Lakers dealt Gasol and Bynum for Howard.. Would have been great for Orlando and the Lakers would have been the next Orlando Magic once Kobe is washed up in a few years.

    • snoopy2014 - Dec 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

      Except the Lakers have a GM that knows how to create a team.

  2. nflinla - Dec 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM

    Why would they. That would be really stupid of the lakers to do that.

  3. bparmalee - Dec 11, 2011 at 6:12 PM

    This means the Lakers dont get Howard and have a really pissed off Bynum…. sweet.. I like it. I mean its not like Bynum is kinda weak minded and this will impact his play…right?

  4. sunsation3413 - Dec 11, 2011 at 6:14 PM

    Why does anyone think the Magic will accept Bynum for Howard? He cant stay healthy and he’s only shown flashes. This will be his seventh year in the league and you can’t keep waiting on that potential. Brook Lopez, whoever else they throw in and draft picks is a much better deal for Orlando. And playing with Deron Williams would seem more attractive than Derek Fisher.

    • cosanostra71 - Dec 11, 2011 at 7:22 PM

      I would assume playing with Kobe is more attractive than playing with Deron Williams OR Derek Fisher.

    • chuckj1234 - Dec 11, 2011 at 7:59 PM

      In 8 months the magic will have nothing.

  5. sonofsambowie - Dec 11, 2011 at 6:36 PM

    There’s only one way out of this mess for the Lakers, and that’s to go balls-to-the-wall to get it done. Here’s a way to do it where everyone wins.

    http://sonofsambowie.blogspot.com/2011/12/lakers-lack-of-plan-has-me-grasping-at.html

  6. mjagosports511 - Dec 11, 2011 at 6:49 PM

    then i guess they dont really want him that bad

  7. jmclarkent - Dec 11, 2011 at 6:57 PM

    Can the trade exception be used in a 3 team trade? Ex. Bynum and a player from team 3 go to Orlando, Team 3 gets the trade exception, LA receives Howard and Turgo?

    • Kevin S. - Dec 11, 2011 at 10:27 PM

      Sure, but there’s a pretty narrow salary band for player (or players) X to fit into. Odom’s exception is only $8.9 million, but the Lakers would need to use at least $8.4 million of it along with Bynum to match salaries with Howard/Turk. Dumping Odom made that unnecessarily complicated.

  8. jvallen3000 - Dec 11, 2011 at 8:33 PM

    Wow

  9. chadinkc30 - Dec 11, 2011 at 9:04 PM

    Did you guys ever stop to

  10. chadinkc30 - Dec 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM

    Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe the Lakers know they can sign one of these guys as a free agent next summer and not have to give up anything? If Paul wants to really make the nba mad I know that’s what he should do

    • Kevin S. - Dec 11, 2011 at 10:29 PM

      Did you ever stop to look at the Lakers’ salary commitments for next season and realize they can’t get even close to being able to afford a max player unless they give away Bynum and Gasol for nothing?

  11. mcjon22 - Dec 11, 2011 at 9:21 PM

    So they dump The 6th man of the year for nothing, replace Phil Jackson with Mike Brown, pull out of the Paul sweepstakes, and now basically pull out of the Howard sweepstakes as well? Wow. Even Isiah Thomas thinks that’s stupid.

    • mytthor - Dec 11, 2011 at 9:38 PM

      If Isiah Thomas thinks it’s stupid, DO IT IMMEDIATELY!

    • chargerdillon - Dec 11, 2011 at 9:57 PM

      As a Lakers fan I keep scratching my head thinking the same thing.

      You had a level of talent that when healthy got you to three NBA Finals… it wasn’t like the wheels totally fell off the bus. They had played almost twice as many games as some teams in the NBA over the last few years and Kobe need some serious recovery time.

      The single biggest problem the Lakers had last year was their age at PG and I look and still see the same glaring issue from last year. Compounding that we have a new coach who I have ZERO FAITH in, compounding that with losing the best bench player in all of basketball, compounding that with pissing off half your roster to make trades.

      I don’t think people understand if these moves don’t happen, the Miami Heat are going to have very little contention for next year. What the Mavericks did is gone now, the team is not the same, it’s already been splintered with them losing Chandler. So who in the West is going to match up with the Heat? As a Laker fan I feel like the league did the fans a disserver in not allowing Paul to go to LA, but now have made it even worse by allowing the thousand pound elephant in the room to still be a thousand pound elephant in the room.

      The Lakers have more rings than anybody, and I don’t say this with sour grapes as i’m just as much in favor of this happening for the Knicks. Last year a triple threat dynasty was allowed to be created in Miami, and not a single owner raised a stink (minus Gilbert of course), but now that the Lakers want to rebuild to contend with them, it’s not ok?

      Make no mistake about it, there is ONE FRONTRUNNER in the NBA and it’s the Miami Heat. All the owners did in blocking CP3 to the Lakers was to allow the Miami Heat to be the most talented team last year, and only improve as the most talented team this year.

    • sonofsambowie - Dec 11, 2011 at 10:40 PM

      It’s not for nothing. Because David Stern felt the need to drop his omnipotent hammer of small market justice on the Paul trade, the Lakers were in an un-fixable situation with Lamar and decided to trade him before it got worse. They got a 9 million dollar trade exception for him, and i’m almost 100% sure they’ll use it.

  12. jimsjam33 - Dec 12, 2011 at 1:13 AM

    Players like Dwight Howard come along every 10 years . Bill Russell , Wilt Chamberlain , Kareem Abdoul Jabbar , Hakeem Olajuwon , Shaq O’Neal , and Yao Ming . Trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard is a bargain that will never happen again and insure the Lakers solid chances at NBA championships for many years to come . If the Lakers don’t make the deal , the Clippers will be the headline team in LA very shortly , especially if CP comes West . CP , Blake Griffin , DeAndre Jordan , Caron Butler , and Eric Gordon argueably could be a better team than the Lakers .
    The bottom line is get Dwight Howard at any cost .

    • gtizzo - Dec 12, 2011 at 12:56 PM

      Bargain for who? You assume Bynum even wants to go to Orlando, which after being in L.A I seriously doubt. Bynum is forever bound to the Lakers, they can’t just trade him for just anyone, and nobody who has any sense will sign him as a free agent. Mostly because the only team willing to pay him what he thinks he is worth is L.A. Also remember Denver shot down a deal that involved Bynum for Anthony and Denver said “no”. The word is out on Bynum no team wants him.

  13. generalsandman - Dec 12, 2011 at 11:28 AM

    Kobe should demand a trade to Chicago. LOL…..

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