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NBA “Deal Day” moves and rumors (constantly updated)

Dec 9, 2011, 7:38 PM EDT

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Today is going to be the Black Friday Sales of the NBA — there will be deals happening fast here, there and everywhere. Just like at Wal*Mart, you might have GMs pepper spraying others to make sure they get the player they want.

It’s going to be hard to keep up with all the information, so this one post will have updates on everything that goes down. You’re going to read more details about a lot of them in other posts here at ProBasketballTalk, but this spot is your one-stop shopping — refresh this post and you will know what is going on as soon as we do. And watch out for Daryl Morey and the pepper spray.

11:19 pm: Clippers point guard Eric Bledsoe had surgery to repair a torn lateral meniscus and will be out at least another month. That means more Mo Williams minutes.

11:15 pm: LaMarcus Aldridge is going to to miss the first week of Blazers training camp due to an irregular heartbeat. He suffered from this during his rookie season but has been fine since then.

10:50 pm: David West is about to be a member of the Boston Celtics, according to David Aldridge at NBA.com. That’s an interesting choice — West is a power forward, the Celtics have one of those in Kevin Garnett. West is one of the best pick-and-pop forwards in the league, how he fits with Rajon Rondo is a question mark. But this is about one of the biggest name pickup the Celtics could make.

10:35 pm: Looks like the Knicks are finalizing a trade to send Ronny Turiaf to the Washington Wizards as part of their efforts to clear cap space for Tyson Chandler, according to the New York Post. Turiaf in Washington is interesting as he is the opposite of Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee — he’s not blessed with the best physical talent ever but his heart and effort are unquestionable.

9:45 pm: Is Metta World Peace (aka Ron Artest) the new Shawn Kemp? Lakers coach Mike Brown said World Peace was “obviously a little overweight.” Or, check out the quote from Artest himself:

Metta World Peace says he’s not in top shape. He thought season wouldn’t start until January, so he had “a little more martinis” in Nov.

9:05 pm: Vince Carter is headed to the Mavericks after being bought out by the Suns, according to Marc Stein at ESPN. As David Aldridge notes, he essentially takes over the DeShawn Stevenson role (with fewer tattoos).

8:53 pm: It was expected but now it is official — Tracy McGrady has signed with the Atlanta Hawks.

8:51 pm: Earl Watson was expected by many to sign with the Wizards (and back up John Wall), but he was popular in Utah and the Jazz figured out a way to bring him back for this season.

8:47 pm: Luis Scola and Kevin Martin were there for the first day of Rockets practice. Awk-ward.

8:32 pm: The Celtics have re-signed Jeff Green to a one-year contract, according to the Boston Globe. Most likely this is just the qualifying offer, but either way he will be a free agent next year. This year he will be key to the Celtics making any run at the title.

8:23 pm: Greg Oden has had another setback with his knee. This just makes me sad.

8:21 pm: The Magic are not going to file tampering charges against the Nets. Not yet, anyway.

7:56 pm: Tyson Chandler is going to the Knicks, but all the pieces were not in place for him to be signed Friday, so the Knicks were a bit shorthanded for their first day of practice.

7:52 pm: The Pacers have re-signed Jeff Foster to a one-year contract. Not surprising, but the Knicks and other teams had inquired.

7:39 pm: Kobe Bryant with the quote of the day, talking about Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol and the blown up Chris Paul trade.

“”They’ll get over it. Don’t win back to back by being soft emotionally.””

6:38 pm: Golden State has waived Jeremy Lin, the second year player from Harvard. I’d like to think he can land somewhere, some limitations but he’s a guy who could stick in the NBA if somebody lets him develop.

6:26 pm: Marcus Thornton‘s deal with the Kings has been finalized and at a more logical four years, $33 million according to Sports Illustrated. This was first leaked deal was five years and $40 million, which seemed steeo

6:13 pm: As expected, the Lakers have inked three-point specialist Jason Kapono to a one year deal for the veterans’ minimum (just more than $1 million, in this case).

5:56 pm: Kyrie Irving, the top pick in the last NBA draft, has inked his deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers. He’s going to get thrown into the fire to learn the hard way this season.

5:44 pm: The Sixers have agreed to a five-year, $43 million dollar deal to keep Thaddeus Young with the team, reports Kate Fagan of the Philadelphia Inquirer. That seems a fair price, good deal for both sides.

5:29 pm: Spurs rookie Kawhi Leonard has inked his deal, according to Sports Illustrated. Spurs fans are going to like this guy.

5:19 pm: The Pistons have bought out and let go of Rip Hamilton. This was not an amnesty move, this was a straight buyout. Rip is a free agent so start the Heat speculation in 3…2…1

If I were a betting man, I’d put my money on him becoming the Bulls new wing starter.

5:14 pm: Lamar Odom came late and left early from Lakers training camp Friday. He did not practice, but Pau Gasol did. (Odom came late and left early at a sporting event, that makes him a real Angelino.)

5:09 pm: Timberwolves guard Martell Webster is out indefinitely after having surgery to repair a herniated disk in his back. He had returned to play last season after a previous back surgery. Not good news for him.

5:05 pm: The Celtics have signed draftee E’Twaun Moore to a guaranteed deal. He will be a Celtic this year. Good team for a rookie to learn on if he pays attention.

4:52 pm: Gary Forbes is very close to a deal with Toronto, according to Yahoo.

4:51 pm: The Lakers, Hornets and Rockets are talking Chris Paul deal again, trying to find a way to “sweeten” it then resubmit it. And dare David Stern to veto it again.

4:19 pm: The Nets and Knicks are apparently in a competition to sign forward Shawne Williams. I don’t get it either.

4:09 pm: Chris Paul showed up for the first day of Hornets training camp today. Good for him. That was the right thing to do.

4:01 pm: In a surprise to nobody, the Suns waived Vince Carter on Friday. This was not an amnesty clause thing, this was business — Carter was owed $18 million on his deal but could be bought out for $4 million. Carter’s game isn’t worth the extra $14 million any more.

He is a free agent and may well land with the Miami Heat.

3:53 pm: That Marcus Thornton deal we talked about less than an hour ago (five years, $40 million with the Kings) apparently has hit a snag. How serious a snag remains to be seen, his agent told David Aldridge a deal would get done. But for now, snagged.

3:24: pm: Center Jeff Pendergraph, last seen as one of Portland’s injured big men, is expected to sign a two-year deal with the Pacers, reports Sam Amick at Sports Illustrated. That signing makes me think Jeff Foster is headed elsewhere.

3:22 pm: Rudy Fernandez continues to have trouble with his visa to return to the United States. He is expected to join the Mavericks on Monday.

3:21 pm: At age 38, Juwan Howard is coming back for one more season, this with the Heat, tweets Ira Winderman. If you see a lot of him on the court this season in anything other than mop-up duty, the Heat are in trouble.

3:19 pm: The Sixers are brining back veteran center Tony Battie for one more season.

3:12 pm: Thaddeus Young and the Sixers are apparently close to a deal that keeps the promising young forward in Philly. They should lock him up, he is part of the future of this team.

3:05 pm: The Sacramento Kings have reportedly signed Marcus Thornton for five years, $40 million. My gut reaction is $8 million a year is steep. They needed to lock him up, he shows promise and is just entering his third season, and he averaged 12.8 points per game last season… but $8 million a year? Maybe in a few years this is a steal. Maybe.

3:01 pm: Gilbert Arenas has been waived by the Orlando Magic under the league’s amnesty clause. In other news, the Pope remains Catholic.

He now enters a secondary waiver process where teams under the cap can bid to take over his deal at a reduced price. Don’t expect any takers, nobody wants him for three years.

2:16 pm: NBA teams will be able to dress 13 players — not the usual 12 — for the first part of the season, report Marc Stein of ESPN. Depth is going to matter in this condensed season, so the move makes some sense. Not that guy 13 is ever really going to see the court.

2:12 pm: Teams have until Dec. 16 to use the amnesty clause this year or it goes away until next year under the terms of the new CBA. Only about three or four players will get amnestied this year, but clock as started Cleveland so set Baron Davis free now.

2:06 pm: Golden State, after losing out on Tyson Chandler, is going to make an offer to Clippers restricted free agent DeAndre Jordan for around $10 million a year, reports Yahoo. The Clippers really want to bring back Jordan, but that price may be too rich for their blood.

2:01 pm: The Nets are going to offer Nene a four-year deal worth between $60 million and $65 million, reports Yahoo Sports. After flirting with a lot of teams Nene was expected to re-sign with Denver, but this could change that. The Nets made their move after the Magic started talking about filing tampering charges against them for talking to Dwight Howard, almost certainly killing that deal.

1:59 pm: The deal is finalized according to Yahoo — a signed-and-traded Glen Davis will be shipped to Orlando in exchange for Brandon Bass.

1:46 pm: Pau Gasol has arrived for the start of Lakers training camp. Lamar Odom has not.

Also, the Lakers are not going to join any legal action against the league over the trade, reports the Los Angeles Times.

1:34 pm: The live-in girlfriend of Jazz big man Al Jefferson was arrested after allegedly biting and hitting Jefferson, reports the Salt Lake Tribune.

1:11 pm: Warriors guard Charlie Bell was arrested after Thursday after showing up drunk to court for his DUI hearing.

1:02 pm: The Orlando Magic are considering filing tampering charges against two teams for trying to deal with Dwight Howard, according to NBA.com. That would be big. More to come on that.

1:27 pm: Dwight Howard has dropped agent Dan Fegan and his father will now represent him. Last year Howard left Aaron Goodwin as an agent to go to Fegan on the advice of family members (so that family members could play a larger role). I will tell you now this will end badly. Good agents do a lot more for a player and can provide a better picture of things than family members (who often are out for their own self interests).

12:13 pm: The Boston Celtics and Orlando Magic are talking a Glen Davis for Brandon Bass sign-and-trade deal, reports the Boston Herald.

11:59 am: Grant Hill has agreed to a one-year deal to return to the Phoenix Suns, tweets Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic. He has rejected the offer of the New York Knicks.

11:17 am: The Heat have re-signed three-point specialist James Jones to a three-year deal, reports ESPN.

11:33 am: The Phoenix Suns “improved their offer” — read: coughed up more money — to Grant Hill and now await his decision, reports the Arizona Republic. Hill is choosing between the Suns and the Knicks (or do you want to spend the winter in Phoenix or New York).

11:12 am: Mario Chalmers has agreed to a deal to return and be the point guard for the Miami Heat today, reports the New York Post. The Knicks might have made a run at him after they used the amnesty on Chauncey Billups, but the Heat would have matched any offer.

10:51 am: Shelden Williams is going to sign a one-year deal with the Nets, reports Yahoo.

10:47 am: Tyson Chandler will be signed by the New York Knicks today, the New York Times reports. Chauncey Billups will be waived and Ronny Turiaf will be traded to make room for this deal. It will put Billups into a secondary waiver where teams under the salary cap can bid for his services (and he cannot reject them if they have the winning bid).

10:37 am: The Cleveland Cavaliers are expected to waive and amnesty Baron Davis today, according to Yahoo Sports.. Not a huge shock, this is Kyrie Irving’s team now.

10:19 am: The Toronto Star is reporting (via Sportando.net) that the Suns have agreed to send Mickael Pietrus to the Raptors in exchange for a conditional second round pick.

10:13 am: Brandon Roy is going to announce his retirement due to medical reasons (he has no cartilage in his knees), reports Chris Broussard of ESPN. Secondary reports say the decision is not yet final, but he is leaning toward retirement heading into a key meeting today. Much more to come on this, but I will always remember him in Game 4 against the Mavericks. That will be his encore, to me.

10:00 am: Teams cannot officially sign anybody until 2 p.m. Eastern, but to get us started here is a quick list of some of the things we expect to go down today:

Shane Battier will sign a deal with the Miami Heat to join the big three there and provide some versatility — and high IQ hoops — to that team.

Caron Butler is expected to sign a three-year deal with the Clippers for way more than he probably should get paid.

• Tracy McGrady will sign with the Hawks.

Tayshaun Prince will sign a four-year deal to stay in Detroit.

Jonas Jerebko also will stay with the Pistons.

Mike Dunleavy will sign a two-year deal with the Bucks.

• Greg Oden will spend one more year on the Trail Blazers roster.

Shannon Brown will sign a one-year, $3.5 million deal with the Phoenix Suns.

Sebastian Telfair is expected to sign with the Suns as well.

• Eddy Curry is about to sign a deal with the Heat. Yes, we are serious, but it is a make-good contract or training camp.

• Roger Mason is likely to sign with the Wizards. how u?

• Jamal Magloire is about to sign with the Toronto Raptors (which would make him the first ever Canadian born Raptor).

• Earl Watson is expected to sign with the Wizards.

  1. bparmalee - Dec 9, 2011 at 10:16 AM

    I am still shocked that none of the losing teams… with no scorers.. are throwing more money at Shannon Brown. Here is a guy that can shoot and can get people going with a few dunks a game. I am not saying he needs to make 14 mill but 3.5 mil for 1 year seems like a steal.

    • hystoracle - Dec 9, 2011 at 10:29 AM

      As his agent, you should really be contacting the GM’s for the teams rather than posting on a message board. You would be more successful for your client that way.

    • phaden27 - Dec 9, 2011 at 10:34 AM

      @ Bpar Well yeah, unless he takes a jumpshot…

    • dadawg77 - Dec 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM

      When your wife is a better a basketball player, you don’t tend get a lot of offers in the NBA.

      • bparmalee - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:39 PM

        @hystoracle-Nice… sick troll. Its going tot ake some time to recover but after a few more message board posts… I think I’ll get there.

  2. edmazeing1 - Dec 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Damn, wish I could trade places with Greg Oden paid millions to watch games, with court side seats… I choice the wrong career path!!!

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:37 AM

      One other thing about Greg Oden I’d like to trade for.

  3. chargerdillon - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:12 AM

    It’s so freakin nice to have people talking basketball again, Top 5 reasons to love the NBA:

    1. The idiots who still blame Lebron James for ruining or damaging the NBA somehow. If it werent for the many stupid Lebron-haters out there, I would never have found a reason to love Lebron. Can’t wait for them to run over the league in a shortened year and everybody forget that’s what was supposed to happen all along.

    2. Big Market Teams! That’s right, I LOVE BIG MARKET TEAMS, give me the big 3, give me Kobe and CP3, give me Melo and Amare, give me KG and Ray! For all you small market fans it sucks to not be one of hte big boys, but there’s a reason they’re the big market teams, they got the money and they got the talent. SHOWTIME BABY!

    3. Small Market Teams! That’s right! I LOVE SMALL MARKET TEAMS! You can’t have the big boys without the new contenders coming up. Nothing like watching a smaller team get the best of a better team, everybody likes rooting for the underdogs!

    4. The coming of Shaq and Barkeley! I won’t understand a single word either of them say, but eventually one of them is going to get so fat they break their chair during a presentation. I WILL BE THERE!

    5. Trash Talk! Let it be said that I as a Laker fan cast the first stone at the Celtic fan (with his back turned). Our hype has become so meaningless, but let it be cause CHRIS PAUL DIDN’T WANT YOU, HE WANTED THE LAKERS, SUCK ON THAT CLOVER LEAF! Now that I’ve gotten that out of my system

    LETS PLAY SOME BALL

    • cantonbound13 - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:17 PM

      Not 1, not 2, not 3… but no rings for LeBron!

    • 00maltliquor - Dec 9, 2011 at 7:32 PM

      @chargerdillon…one of the best post I have ever read on here. I jumped up and said halleluja when I read that.
      And for the haters who wanna hate, thumbs down button is right below. But of course you already know that.

  4. cantonbound13 - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:23 AM

    Why would the Knicks use the amnesty on a good player in the last year of his contract? Tyson Chandler does not make you better than the Heat. I’d wait till the summer & go after Howard, Williams or possibly Paul. This signing smells like an Isiah move. Overpaying a role player who played well in a contract year.

    • lmoneyfresh - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:09 PM

      Really? Because the Knicks are known for their wise roster moves? Them using an amnesty on Billups shouldn’t surprise anybody with that front office.

  5. topher1215 - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:59 AM

    There are contrasting reports that Howard has fired his agent Fegan and replaced hims with his father. Other reports say that is not the case and Howard isn’t requesting a trade to Nets. Also, Magic working on a swap with Boston that would send Bass to Celtics for Big Baby

  6. marquisalexander - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM

    1999

    San Antonio Spurs

    37 Market

    New York Knicks

    1 Market

    2000

    Los Angeles Lakers

    2 Market

    Indiana Pacers

    27 Market

    2001

    Los Angeles Lakers

    2 Market

    Philadelphia 76ers

    4 Market

    2002

    Los Angeles Lakers

    2 Market

    New Jersey
    Nets

    1 Market

    2003

    San Antonio Spurs

    37 Market

    New Jersey
    Nets

    1 Market

    2004

    Los Angeles Lakers

    2 Market

    Detroit
    Pistons

    11 Market

    2005

    San Antonio Spurs

    37 Market

    Detroit
    Pistons

    11 Market

    2006

    Dallas Mavericks

    5 Market

    Miami Heat

    16 Market

    2007

    San Antonio Spurs

    37 Market

    Cleveland Cavaliers

    18 Market

    2008

    Los Angeles Lakers

    2 Market

    Boston Celtics

    7 Market

    2009

    Los Angeles Lakers

    2 Market

    Orlando Magic

    19 Market

    2010

    Los Angeles Lakers

    2 Market

    Boston Celtics

    7 Market

    2011

    Dallas Mavericks

    5 Market

    Miami Heat

    16 Market

     

    Finals History Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions

    Market size Source:
    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2011/03/nba-market-size-numbers-game/

     

    This whole small Market teams can’t be competitive is bullsh*t.  Looking
    over the NBA finals history since the last lockout shows that the League has
    had several mid and small market teams making runs to the finals and
    winning.  Several Large Market teams
    haven’t made an appearance let alone won.  The two teams with the most wins and
    appearances over this time period (Lakers, Spurs) couldn’t be further from each
    other on the market size spectrum.  Think
    about that the Western conference over the last decade plus has been dominated
    by the 2 market and the 37th largest television market.  The two teams that play in the largest
    television market (Knicks and Nets) have only been in the finals 3 times and
    haven’t won a single ring.

     

    This truth of the matter is, this
    is about good executives and bad executives.  Teams that make the right moves for their
    clubs and teams that don’t.  The bad
    teams want protection from their futility. 
    If this whole “The Large Market teams are ruining the game” meme were
    accurate don’t you think we would see a Knicks, Nets, Clippers, Bulls, or Sixers championship up there?  Nope. They’re teams located in the 1, 1, 2, 3,
    and 4th largest market respectively and haven’t won a single
    championship.  Combined they have the
    same finals appearances (since the last CBA) collectively as San Antonio, the #37th Market has championship rings.

     

    Small Market teams, Fans, and Owners, stop bitching and run
    your teams better. 

    • leearmon - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:05 PM

      Great post, I have been trying to argue this side for sometime now, unfortunately most will ignore facts, and let their emotions get in the way. But well done.

    • goforthanddie - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:54 PM

      Very nice.

  7. dirtybird2020 - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:19 PM

    Chargerdillion your a idiot! Im glad you think lebron is gonna run on teams with charity cases like eddie curry! As a lakers fan you blow! Someone shouldve thrown rocks at your dad so he could never foul the earth with a idiot like you! Last i knew heat had 10 different lineups last year due to the charity cases they picked up, shouldnt be much different this year! Eddie curry the guy who hasnt been in shape or heard of in years you idiots are funny! We got eddie curry this year and bibby last year hahaha a city filled with bums! Name a king without a ring, lebron james! Haha whats the difference between lebron and hoodini??? Hoodinis disappearing acts are fake! Lol lebron is laughing stock just like the city of miami that has to deal with his stench, cuba smells better before they all migrates to that crap city!

    • goforthanddie - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:56 PM

      Wow, you win the day’s Biggest Idiot award. Not because of what you said, but because it looks/sounds like a 5-year-old snuck into daddy’s study and found the PC.

  8. fergie22 - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:32 PM

    how is miami signing all these players do they have an unlimited cap?

    • Kurt Helin - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:24 PM

      Battier is their mid-level exception. They had Chalmers and Jones last year so this is just re-signing them to new deals, very legal under rules. They can’t got get any high priced free agent guys.

  9. leearmon - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:49 PM

    What exactly are the Clippers doing BTW? They clearly have the pieces needed to trade for Chris Paul or Dwight Howard, yet they feel comfortable going into the season with the same lineup, with the one exception of Caron Butler for $8 million a year???? Seems very odd. I’d trade Jordan, Aminu, Gordon and a pick for Dwight in a heartbeat. Then try to trade Bledsoe and Kaman for a good athletic 2 guard. The Clips have all the tools needed they just don’t seem like they’re interested.

  10. leearmon - Dec 9, 2011 at 1:11 PM

    Also, true that Kirk Hinrich got amnestied? If so, any word on who will scoop him up? Knicks? please?

  11. icyhuck - Dec 9, 2011 at 1:18 PM

    the wizards need to make more moves than Watson to help out wall come on man!!!!!!!!

  12. xxshookonexx - Dec 9, 2011 at 1:40 PM

    Please let the big baby deal happen

  13. charlutes - Dec 9, 2011 at 1:42 PM

    I honestly hate David Stern’s guts.

  14. Nadeem - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:20 PM

    Ding Odom for not reporting. Let him lose 2 games salary for his actions.

  15. cantonbound13 - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:21 PM

    David Stern vetoed the Paul deal because he desperately wants LeBron to win a title & do for the NBA what Michael did. Unfortunately, LeBron is not & never will be anywhere as good as Michael was.

  16. giselleisasucubus - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:43 PM

    Baron Davis will end up with the Lakers. It’s his hometown, they still need a pg, it just makes sense.

    • gpatrick15 - Dec 9, 2011 at 5:04 PM

      CP deal being reworked to sweeten the deal on behalf of the Hornets. They’ll probably have to take back Okafor’s contract, though.

  17. cantonbound13 - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:24 PM

    Orlando traded for Big Baby? And you wonder why Howard wants to leave?

  18. cubalakeshow - Dec 9, 2011 at 6:19 PM

    Vince Carter to Miami haha never happen maybe if they were ran by the Knicks only a pretty dumb team would sign a player that has been parasitic to every team he joins what’s next they’re gonna give eddy curry a chance…oh wait…

  19. cooldonnyd - Dec 9, 2011 at 8:03 PM

    Chandler going to nets now

  20. passerby23 - Dec 10, 2011 at 1:30 AM

    Don’t sleep on the Celtics. They are quietly putting together some good pieces. David West is on board to go with KG and Brandon Bass. Jeff Green will have a greater season to get comfortable. They’ve signed Chris Wilcox since Jermaine O’Neal is an injury waiting to happen in a shortened season. Keyon Dooling to back up Rondo. Marquis Daniels is re-signed. I would like to see them add Joel Pryzbilla and re-sign Delonte West and they are deep at every position. If healthy, this is not a team you want to face in the playoffs.

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