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Knicks moving forward to get Chandler, amnesty Billups

Dec 9, 2011, 11:28 AM EDT

Tyson Chandler of the Dallas Mavericks c Getty Images

It was the big story yesterday — until Chris Paul was traded then untraded — and it will shake up the Eastern Conference.

And it is happening — the New York Knicks will sign Tyson Chandler today tweets Howard Beck at the New York Times. The Knicks will use the amnesty clause on Chauncey Billups and will trade Ronny Turiaf to create cap space to sign Chandler. The Turiaf trade is still pending — there are multiple offers out there and all sides (including Turiaf’s agent) expect a deal to get done soon.

This will bring one of the two best defensive centers in the NBA (along with Dwight Howard) to the Knicks, protecting the rim behind Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. Also, it gives the Knicks some interesting half-court offensive options as Chandler is a good big on the high pick-and-roll (just ask Chris Paul).

With Chandler, the Knicks are knocking on the door of the Heat and Bulls atop the East (although they still need a point guard and depth to be a real threat for a ring).

It also leaves Billups in limbo. He will enter a secondary waiver market where teams below the cap can bid on taking over a portion of his contract (one year, $14 million). To use a hypothetical, the Sacramento Kings could bid $1 million and if they win get Billups for the season at that price (the Knicks would pay the rest of his salary, it just wouldn’t count against their official books).

Billups agent has already warned teams not to bid on Billups, that he would just walk away before he would play somewhere he doesn’t want to be. Smart money suggests that he will land in his home town of Denver or with the Miami Heat this season.

  1. cjpunk15 - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM

    Hey wonder if Tyson Chandler has to donate some of that contract to charitable cause…? You know like the Hornets or the Cavs

  2. cjpunk15 - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:42 AM

    I know its different but nothing says competitive balance like Chandler, Melo and Amare playing on the same team in the NBA’s largest market. All three guys are top 3 at their positions… Just sayin’

  3. sunsation3413 - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:46 AM

    Unless Chandler can teach Amare and Carmelo how to play defense the Knicks are only going to be the 4th best team in the East with no chance of getting to the top.

    • leearmon - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:07 PM

      Well considering Chandler didn’t teach Nowitzki and Jason Terry to play defense last season, yet they did ok, I think its a risk New York is willing to take. And I think you all are understating Chandler’s offense a bit. bparmalee Chandler led the league in TS%. Yes Tyson Chandler led the league in True Shooting!. And while you look at his per game rebounding stats, if you look closer you’ll see Chandler’s always been a great defensive player and a great rebounder. Those numbers have never changed. And with Dwight Howard heading to Brooklyn New York is going to need someone to anchor the middle.

      • bparmalee - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM

        I am not saying he isnt a good player. I am saying he isnt worth 14.2 mill. Thats star money and Chandler isnt a star. He isnt going to sell merch and he doesnt fill seats (though the Knicks dont have that issue). I just think he is a 6-9 mill a year guy tops. I think with his injury history and his limitations that he shouldnt get superstar money. Also if you are the Knicks you can attract big names… or anyone to your team and this deal puts the cuffs on that for years to come.

      • leearmon - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:15 PM

        I understand your point, however The Knicks had a huge hole to fill, and Chandler solves that problem. New York doesnt need any scoring, and they still added the player who had the highest TS% last year. Plus if you look at the last time Amar’e played with a legit center (Shaq and Lopez in Phoenix) he had arguably his best years in the league. The Knicks don’t need to sign a player who sells tickets, they have two of them already. Maybe 13 a year is a bit much, but when you’re getting the player who fills most of the voids you have, you have to go all in.

  4. aburns77 - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:53 AM

    Getting Chandler is a good move for the Knicks but this team is so think right now I don’t know if they’re necessarily a better team right now. Of course, Chandler provides some great low court D that they clearly need considering how terrible Amare is there (plus Amare can play the 4 now) but they now have no point guard to speak of to get the ball to anyone.

  5. bparmalee - Dec 9, 2011 at 11:55 AM

    This is a bad bad contract. Chandler is great on defense…. can really only dunk on offense and has been hurt over and over his entire career. He had 1 good year with the Mavs and he doesnt have the numbers everyone thinks he does 9+ ppg 9+rebounds per game and only 1.1 blocks per game. So he doesnt get over 10 rebounds and he only gets a little over 1 block per game…. I just dont see how he is worth 14.2 mill. I mean this guy has become more of a myth or legend than any player I have seen in a few years. I guess the Knicks have the money to take the risk but Under 10 ppg Under 10 rpg and 1.1 blocks per game and a shakey injury history. Will all their money tied up this will be the Knicks core going forward so we will see.

  6. brooklynbulls - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Billips gave this team some sense of discipline and order on offense. Without him this team is going to be every man for himself with one, maybe two players playing D. Melo and Stat under Mike D will constantly go for “theirs”

  7. djanarchy757 - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:20 PM

    chandler def helps the interior defense for NY but losing billups will hurt the backcourt d, backcourt o, crunch time poise, and overall game flow…no room for him back in denver…where does CB end up???

  8. Nadeem - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM

    How can Billup’s agent do that? Billups is paid to play…he cant pick and choose his landing spot. He should reread his contract.

    • genericcommenter - Dec 9, 2011 at 5:59 PM

      Billups can’t pick his landing spot? Everyone else seems to. I’m not saying I support the whining, necessarily- just that all the “stars” throw a hissy fit and end up where they want to. So I can understand when the good players who end up as collateral damage ( like Billups and Odom) of the whims of the stars get upset about being displaced.

  9. patientlywaiting32 - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM

    I think this is a good pickup. The Knicks really didn’t have a chance to get cp3 this year and they probably knew other teams like the lakers were going to be better suitors. Besides you can’t teach size. Chandler fits great in this offense, he won’t be asked to do much as you have Melo and amare doing the bulk of the scoring. The knicks desperately needed a big man to anchor the defense, I think they needed that more than a pg. besides, in recent years, it seems like adding a true big man has lead to championships. Think shaq and kobe, Kobe and pau, chandler and nowitski (j-Kidd played well but is past his prime), etc. I think a big man is much more valuable. Point guard is important but when was the last time a great pg won without a big man next to him? But u see many great big men win without a great pg. Just need someOne to bring up the ball and run the pick and roll. Hey grant hill maybe a good pick up to do this as he can run the point while the rookie shumpert is groomed for the starting pg position. Oh and hE has good defensive skills as well. Guess the Knicks are finally understanding that championships are won with good defense. Thank goodness

  10. allball23 - Dec 9, 2011 at 12:33 PM

    Knicks def overpaid for chandler but look at what one player can do. The mavericks couldnt even spell defense before came to the team He changed the mavericks into better defensive team. he will do the same with the knicks

    • LPad - Dec 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM

      So how much did the Knicks overpay by 2 mil, 3 mil, etc.? Let’s say they overpaid him by 3 mil. Given Chandler’s track record (for example, Hornets upcoming team until Chandler was traded for Okafor; Mavs rapidly aging also ran turned NBA champ) and the fact the Knicks were starting Jared Jeffries at center, its probably worth it.

  11. stoutfiles - Dec 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM

    “Billups agent has already warned teams not to bid on Billups, that he would just walk away before he would play somewhere he doesn’t want to be. Smart money suggests that he will land in his home town of Denver or with the Miami Heat this season.”

    I’m tired of this crap. At this rate the league will be contracting before you know it.

    By the way, they’re now reporting that Amare might be traded for Paul, now that they have Chandler.

    • Nadeem - Dec 9, 2011 at 1:46 PM

      who would want amare and his non-insurable contract…other than the Knicks ofcourse!

  12. goforthanddie - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:18 PM

    Billups will not end up in Miami.

  13. Josh Perez - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:31 PM

    I understand and believe the Knicks are paying a lot for him cause a player’s value is relative to the team, in this case he is worth much more in NY than what he would be in Chicago cause the Knicks have a big need for his specific skillset. Now something to take into consideration here is that By needs a lot of Chandler who is both injury prone and have a strong tendency to fall in foul trouble. How many minutes you need Chandler minus hiw many can get out of him. That’s his true value.

  14. dolfanatik - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:42 PM

    He’ll take less to win in miami

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