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Report: Knicks about to land Tyson Chandler

Dec 8, 2011, 3:55 PM EDT

Tyson Chandler of the Dallas Mavericks c Getty Images

If the Knicks are going to compete with the Heat and Bulls as the elite in the East during the next few years, they were going to have to find a way to play much better defense.

They may be very close to solving that problem — but it comes with a price. Potentially a steep price.

The Knicks are very close to a deal that will land them defensive center Tyson Chandler, according to multiple reports. Sources told Marc Stein of ESPN that the deal is “98 percent” done. That despite a huge offer and effort from the Golden State Warriors — even the Warriors are saying Chandler is likely to go to the Knicks, reports Matt Steinmetz at

The problem is that to create room for Chandler the Knicks would have to get Chauncey Billups off the books — a development that has stunned Billups, reports David Aldridge of

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo sums this all up well.

To add Chandler, the Knicks will either use their amnesty clause to waive Chauncey Billups and his $14.2 million salary or they will trade him, sources said. The Knicks have privately told people that if they trade Billups – who has said he doesn’t want to leave New York – it will be to a “good” team. If the Dallas Mavericks do a sign-and-trade with Chandler, they could conceivably get Billups in return.

If the Knicks amnesty Billups, teams under the salary cap can bid on him and claim him off waivers. Billups’ agent, Andy Miller, said his client is upset about that prospect.

“He’s irate under the circumstances,” Miller said. “He felt this would be his final destination, and he was promised that he would be playing for a team that was going to be competing for the playoffs. He has no intention of being open-minded about any possible situation where a team would claim him off waivers unless it’s a team he chooses himself. Buyer beware.”

Sucks for Billups, but either way this is a good move for the Knicks. With their style of play — Mike D’Antoni’s up-tempo offense — and their personnel, the Knicks need a defensive stopper to control the paint. Chandler can do that as well as anyone, and he runs the floor well for a big man. Chandler is good on the pick-and-roll as well, which could add an interesting offensive wrinkle with Carmelo Anthony.

The question becomes who plays point guard for the Knicks? Is Toney Douglas really your starter now? With Iman Shumpert behind him?

Then there is the Chris Paul to New York situation — if the Knicks sign Chandler to a multi-year deal the will not have the room to sign Chris Paul as a free agent this summer (they would have maybe the mid-level exception at best).

Let me repeat that again for Knicks fans — sign Chandler and you CANNOT IN ANY WAY get Chris Paul as a free agent next summer.

The Knicks are still trying to work a trade for Paul and have suggested an Amare Stoudemire for Paul trade, Stein reports at ESPN. That is not happening. The Hornets want to get younger and rebuild if they trade Paul, Stoudemire is older, expensive, and with a history of injuries. He makes no sense for the Hornets at all. They will not do that deal.

But the Knicks seem intent on Chandler. And that is going to make them a much better team.

As a side note, without Chandler there is no way the Mavericks will repeat as champions. Unless you think Brendan Haywood can be the new Tyson Chandler… in which case we would tell you its time to switch medications because this one is making you delirious.

  1. Justin - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:03 PM

    “As a side note, without Chandler there is no way the Mavericks will repeat as champions. ”

    Why? I mean I don’t see the point in counting out any team before anyone has even made it to camp. I bet last year you were saying there is no way the Heat don’t win a championship. This is coming from someone who is not a Mavericks fan (although I did enjoy seeing them beat the heat).

  2. bparmalee - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:07 PM

    Wow… I guess I was wrong…. the Knicks are going to do this… crazy. I thought maybe they could use the “stretch” provision to maybe fit CP3 but Helin makes me think I am wrong about that too. 14.2 mill a year for a non-star player… yuck.

  3. wlubake - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    I’m a Mavericks fan, so I wouldn’t necessarily say they have no chance to win a title. The other contending teams don’t necessarily have big, tough centers to guard (especially if Bynum is traded). The Mavericks just need to be creative about keeping people out of the paint. People said they had no chance last year, a recently as the start of the playoffs.

    Also, what would the Mavs do with Billups? Amnesty him? I would think a 3 team trade would be more likely with Billips going elsewhere and the Mavs getting a piece they could use (like a 5, backup 4 or a more slashing 2/3 in the mold of Butler) ideally with an expiring contract so they are positioned to get a free agent point guard next year.

  4. sknut - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:15 PM

    I can understand why billups would be upset but this is a business. Your still going to get 14 million dollars , let me repeat that he is still getting 14 million dollars and your going to cry and moan. Get over it. Plus where he is at in his career I doubt a non-contending team would have much interest in him anyway and would probably end up on a decent team.

  5. cantonbound13 - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:15 PM

    Unless Nash comes here next season I’m not too crazy about the move. I would have waited for Paul next year.

  6. genericcommenter - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM

    Let me preface this comment/question by saying I really haven’t been following this at all.

    What’s the deal with the Mavs? Was there no chance for him going back there? No cap room?

    I’m just curious because a lot of these attempts to make “all-star” teams through trades/FA happen when at least one of the “stars”( being generous) is already on a championship caliber or actual Championship team. Then they blow up or seriously alter the teams that were already very good to chase a chemistry experiment that may or may not work out and has a small % of winning it all.

    • cowhawkfan - Dec 8, 2011 at 8:17 PM

      Win have NBA players picked winning over money? Never! And don’t use the Heat as an example, the endorsements they all received more than made up for lost salary.

  7. drobstad - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:33 PM

    Any chance the Knicks can get Wilson Chandler back if we sign Tyson Chandler?

  8. 00maltliquor - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:39 PM

    The Knicks are just shooting themselves in the foot. Yeah they need a big to defend the paint and send Amare back to his natural position, but they also need a competent PG to run the D’Antoni offense. It’s like they are trading an arm for a leg.

    And what’s this trade Amare b.s.? Just last year pre-Melo trade he was the N.Y. savior!

    And why the hell would N.O. not trade Paul for Amare if they could? He’s still young and a star and it would be a big FU to Paul. Like, ok Chris, you wanna pair up in New York do ya? Fine then, you’ll only do it with Melo! HA, jokes on you!

  9. goforthanddie - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM

    Who’s Toney Douglas?

  10. acdc363 - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:50 PM

    and who the **** is iman shumpert

  11. baboushka - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:53 PM

    Knicks better beware on this. It looks good up front and on paper. But it has risks too. Tyson Chandler has had major injury problems in every town he played in. And I mean major injuries that kept him out for big periods of time. Dallas knows something about this. And that is why they are not over spending. They want him back. But at a price that fairly balances the risks. The Knicks seem to be going whole hog on this. and perhaps discarding a gunner PG like Billups way too early. D’Antoni has never embraced defense in his coaching life. Why pretend to now with Chandler. Nene would be a much better fit on that team. And cheaper too.

  12. ddrew80 - Dec 8, 2011 at 4:54 PM

    Don’t care 4 the Knicks long as Danfoni is there. Chandler is a good pick up tho I always felt the Knicks didn’t really need cp3. Point guards come a dime a dozen but a solid bid like chandler is rear this day n age. He will do all the dirty work amare won’t do. Last order of business get rid of Danfoni.

  13. leearmon - Dec 8, 2011 at 5:25 PM

    Look I was as much in love with the idea of CP3 in NYC as anyone, however I love the Chandler addition. We needed a defensive anchor much more than a PG, especially considering the two starting point guards in the Finals last season were Mario Chalmers and a less than average Jason Kidd. Again, I know most casual NBA fans, and even sports writers do not know who Toney Douglass is so I will try to give you a glimpse:

    Last season he had a higher TS%, Offensive rating & Defensive Rating all the while having a lesser usage than Chalmers and Kidd. Again let me be clear, DWTDD isn’t Chris Paul or Jason Kidd for that matter, but to say he cannot run a high level team is ridiculous.

    I think (hope what is going on in the front office of NYC is that they have realized that while the Miami Heat continue to get all the attention, championship teams are not built historically with this “Big Three” mantra. The Knicks will not be able to get Paul with this move, but they will theoretically be able to construct a full team. Their front court is arguably now the best in the league. They can keep Landry and Shumpert adding the depth they so clearly needed. And they still have flexibility to possibly sign Grant Hill or Ramon Sessions type of player. Its not nearly as sexy as a CP3 or Deron / Dwight signing, but I believe its the responsible decision.

    Also to those who question Tyson Chandler’s impact, note his WS/48 was actually HIGHER than Dirk’s last season:

    No, he’s not better than Dirk, but its hard to look at those numbers and understate them. In his last 5 seasons he’s had defensive ratings of 103, 104, 107!!!, 102 and 102. Not too shabby.

  14. sunsation3413 - Dec 8, 2011 at 5:43 PM

    I would think NO would seriously consider taking Amare. He’s better than anyone else who has been offered from any other team.

  15. thenoblefacehumper - Dec 8, 2011 at 5:45 PM

    I’m probably totally wrong, but I don’t get why this would prevent a potential Chris Paul signing. If they Amnesty Billups, and Chandler is paid a similar amount annually, won’t they pretty much be in the same position they were in before? Granted without Billups to trade to NOH, but they’d still have a shot at Paul if he takes less in free agency.

    • thenoblefacehumper - Dec 8, 2011 at 6:15 PM

      Yeah I realized why it wouldn’t work. Brain fart. Sorry guys.

  16. mogogo1 - Dec 8, 2011 at 5:45 PM

    I wonder if it has dawned on Carmelo yet that the Knicks are the same disaster on the management side as they’ve been for the past decade? Yesterday: Paul is coming, Amare is a cornerstone, Billups is old but can still play the point. Today: Paul isn’t coming…unless they can work a deal to swap for Amare, and Billups is gone leaving nobody to play PG.

  17. davidtmp - Dec 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM

    Chandler had a good year because it was a contract year. He’s going to be mediocre at best getting a star player salary. Buyer Beware!! You don’t think Dallas wouldn’t pony up if the guy was worth it? Get rid of guarenteed salaries and you’d see this curbed somewhat.

  18. newyorkfootballjets - Dec 8, 2011 at 7:11 PM

    Chandler and nash would be nice. But if ur gonna trade someone for paul trade melo not stat.

  19. bozosforall - Dec 9, 2011 at 4:12 PM


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