Comments on: League finds way to make bad PR situation worse by killing trade http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/ Basketball - NBC Sports Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:09:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: sportsfaninoc http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-2/#comment-60954 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 19:21:35 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60954 Danny Gilbert just made his team less attractive to a big name player.

Lakers should sue the NBA for blocking their attempt to reduce their team’s salary.

Chris Paul should sue NBA for keeping him from working where he wants to.

]]> By: scsportsfanatic http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60819 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:08:10 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60819 I too am a huge fan of the Chicago Bulls (since 1980); but I am also a fan of the NBA for over 30 years. I will NOT be watching one NBA game this year (2011-2012); let alone any on Christmas!

]]> By: mogogo1 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60818 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:06:51 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60818 I’m with you. This sets the precedent to kill absolutely any trade that a majority of owners dislike…which would be any trade that benefits a major contender. And if a trade agreed to by three teams can run afoul of Stern’s sense of “competitive balance” how long before he shoots down a free agent signing? “Sorry, Player X but we’re not going to let you sign a mid-level exemption and try to win a title because that wouldn’t be fair and some weaker team was willing to pay a bit more.”

]]> By: mogogo1 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60814 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:02:17 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60814 You cannot run a league by the seat of your pants, making stuff up as you go along. How did Stern think this would play out? Any deal that would send Paul to a contender is dead on arrival now. What happens when NOLA ends up having to settle and gets far less for Paul than this deal would have given them? Does Stern say “sorry”, give them some extra compensatory picks, what lunacy will he come up with to try and fix the disaster he created?

]]> By: psousa1 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60754 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:03:57 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60754 NBA is a total joke anyway and only if I have insomnia will I watch an NBA game but I am glad Stern did this. The NBA is well on its way to the point where the superstar will say where he plays, who plays with him and pretty soon the Lebron James’ of the world will want to have a say in who plays on other teams too.

It is a joke.

]]> By: lardin http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60735 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:43:07 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60735 The idea of competitive balance in the NBA is an absolute joke. Since 1990, only 8 Franchises have won a Championship.

Bulls 6
Lakers 5
Spurs 4
Rockets 2
Pistons 2
Heat
Celtics
Mavericks

]]> By: lardin http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60730 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:37:03 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60730 Florida, the thing is that the NBA owns the Hornets. Therefore they own one of the commodities in this scenario.

]]> By: pastabelly http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60726 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:30:25 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60726 The lockout was a joke and it only shows that the league, owners, and players were only interested in money and not the fans or real competition in the league. The NFL and even NHL got it right. The NBA has it all wrong. MLB isn’t great. But it’s better than the NBA. What a joke!!!!

]]> By: florida727 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60704 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:31:38 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60704 Excellent point “chuck”. I own a commodity. I choose to sell or exchange said commodity. As the “owner” of the commodity, no one has the right to tell me I can’t sell/exchange it if I, through my own efforts, find a suitable-to-me offer.

Dr. Buss has plenty of money. I’d like to see him sue Stern personally and the league collectively for “unfair trade practices” (no pun intended, legal phrase), or collusion. Stern/league are preventing Buss from putting the best possible product out there for their fans to enjoy. You can argue this move by Stern is “financially detrimental” to Buss and the Lakers.

]]> By: benekin http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60702 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:28:31 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60702 After all this nonsense and finding out how the NBA really is ran, I feel Tim Donaghy has alot of truth to what he claims happened in 2002.

]]> By: florida727 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60699 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:23:46 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60699 Boycott viewing the Christmas Day games… all of them. When the overnight TV rating come out and they’re the worst in league history, maybe they’ll learn that the fans, the ones paying for their lavish lifestyles, have finally had enough. I won’t watch any game on Christmas Day. I’m a lifelong Bulls fan. I’d love to watch Rose v. Kobe. Not going to. All of us need to step up and send a message to Stern and the owners.

]]> By: 6thsense79 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60665 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 11:56:31 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60665 The owners are within their rights to do what??? Screw over 3 other owners that made a legitimate deal and for what? The small market team with the most to lose if a deal doesn’t get done are the Hornets. Once CP3 leaves and signs with a big market team next year what exactly does that leave the Hornets with? No other players in return, no draft picks, nothing. This is extremely short sighted and all for the name of this mythical “competitive balance” bull. Or at least that’s what the owners have been force feeding you guys.

]]> By: denverdude7 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60650 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 09:26:35 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60650 So much for the last shred of credibility the NBA had.

Can we bring back the lockout?

At least it was somewhat entertaining to watch the NBA players show up for billion dollar contract negotiations dressed in red hoodies.

]]> By: thekingdave http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60637 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:18:44 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60637 As a Rockets fan, this is awesome. What the hell was Morey thinking?

]]> By: nbuckle http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60616 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 07:02:27 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60616 But Kurt, it almost sounds like you are angry over how unfair this is, which I know cannot be true. The owners are within their rights, thus, no one has a right to get upset at this decision.

]]> By: hoytdadd64 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60604 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 06:39:22 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60604 If Chris Paul leaves and N.O gets nothing in return or he’s traded to another small market and leaves after a year and that team is out draft picks and a star point gaurd…how is that creating parity in the league?

]]> By: hoytdadd64 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60600 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 06:35:48 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60600 Here’s a link to send the league office an email….

http://www.nba.com/email_us/contact_us.html

…write Mr. Stern and let him know you’re not happy with him being a puppet savior for bad owners!!!!

]]> By: trbowman http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60582 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 06:06:06 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60582

]]> By: david8726 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60577 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 06:00:10 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60577 Good for him.

Fight the power, CP3.

]]> By: goforthanddie http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60576 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:57:21 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60576 Dell Demps was appointed (by Herr Stern/the owners) to run the team. Now they’re telling him how to do his job.
I understand that the league owns the team, but the only owners this trade concerns own the 3 teams involved. The trade followed proper guidelines, there is no real reason to deny it.
Here’s a better idea: A league shouldn’t be owning a team to begin with. They could’ve sold the Hornets to multi-billionaire Larry Ellison long ago. Maybe he could’ve given the team stability, maybe Paul would want to stay.

]]> By: nosaintsfan79 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60574 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:52:44 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60574 I’m a Hornets fan and season ticket holder and I hate the idea of CP3 playing for the Lakers but it was the best move for our team. I feel like the NBA really screwed the Hornets more than the Lakers that was a good deal. So now we have to watch CP3 play in NOLA when he doesn’t want to be here and know damn well that he is gone next summer to the Lakers or the Knicks anyway and the Hornets get nothing. Thanks Stern good looking out for the smaller markets. The NBA Is broken and it will never get fixed first the lock out and now this after this season I am done with the NBA. Good thing I have Saints season tickets too. Suck it Stern.

]]> By: Justin http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60571 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:49:34 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60571 Not sure why so many thumbs down. Oh well. And I admit I did not know about the salary cap situation of the Celtics. However, the league is putting a lot of importance on this Paul situation. If he does enter free agency he may ultimately be answering the question money or large market. I never have said any this is right. I’m sure some owners think it is and some are ticked. This situation is going to set the precedence for superstars in the future.

]]> By: beavertonsteve http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60570 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:48:55 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60570 ..and now Paul is refusing to report and exploring legal options.

This looks awesome for the NBA’s image.

]]> By: trbowman http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60569 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:48:19 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60569 Dan Gilbert is a hero.

]]> By: david8726 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60565 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:39:44 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60565 You have no problem with the league screwing the team it owns? Really?

The NBA, as the owners of the Hornets, should be looking out for the best interest of the Hornets. That’s obviously not happening here. Owners of other teams are hurting the franchise the league owners for their own selfish reasons.

It’s bogus, and Hornets fans everywhere should be outraged. Stern is possibly setting New Orleans back years by putting them in a position where Chris Paul will walk and leave them with nothing. It’s Cleveland all over again.

I’m livid about this and I’m not a fan of either the Hornets, Rockets, or Lakers. If I were a Hornets fan, I’d be grabbing my pitchfork and marching to the NBA offices.

]]> By: trbowman http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60563 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:37:07 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60563 “If we learned one thing from the lockout it is that the NBA owners are not rational”

Wanting a league with competitve balance isn’t rational. On what planet?

Right. I’m guessing you’re either a Laker, Heat or Celtics fan

]]> By: Chris Fiorentino http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60558 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:24:44 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60558 I don’t understand how the League-Owned Hornets made a trade, especially one of this magnitude, without a full vote of all the league ownership. I mean…I don’t have a problem with the league not allowing the trade, but the manner in which they did it is just pain stupid.

Next time a league takes over a team, make it a rule that any trades must go through a league-wide vote of owners or their proxy. Would help fix this type of PR disaster.

]]> By: david8726 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60555 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:19:48 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60555 Screw everything about this post.

It shouldn’t be about “what makes stern and some owners happy.” It should be about the well-being of the Hornets, the team that they own, and the integrity of the league.

When Chris Paul walks after this year, the Hornets will be left with absolutely nothing to show for it, and they’ll have David Stern to thank for it. Furthermore, Stern is killing a perfectly legal, good basketball trade for both parties because he feels like it.

Finally, your comments about Kurt are completely asinine. Just because someone has been a reported for a specific team in the past doesn’t mean they can’t give unbiased, good reporting in the future when they cover the league nationally.

]]> By: fittytuckin http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60554 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:18:16 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60554 My thoughts exactly. What is Morey’s obsession with soft ass post players?

]]> By: bostonianpride http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/league-finds-way-to-make-bad-pr-situation-worse-by-killing-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-60551 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:15:55 +0000 http://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=35980#comment-60551 Justin- next year in Free Agency the Celtics will have the most cap room of any team with both Garnett and Allen coming of the books. If the Knicks sign Tyson Chandler which everyone is indicating is nearly a done deal then the best they and the Heat can offer Paul is the veterans minimum. Im not sure what the Lakers cap space is next season but if CP3 and Howard both end up in LA its just more of the same all over again. It wouldn’t surprise me if Paul went to Orlando to play with Howard if LA can’t afford them both.

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