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Report: NBA owners, players have opened negotiations again

Nov 23, 2011, 1:34 PM EDT

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Everybody wanted to see the NBA owners and players open up negotiations again — if there is any hope of NBA games on Christmas a deal is going to be need to be reached by the start of next week. Whether a judge ordered it or if someone just picked up the phone, it didn’t matter.

And they are talking again, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo. Here are his tweets.

NBA and players resumed talks on Tuesday to try and end the lockout before the cancellation of Christmas games, two sources told Y! Sports.

Talks were expected to continue today, sources said, and one league source tells Y!: “We should know more by later this evening.”

Derek Fisher isn’t a part of the talks now, sources say.

Technically these are “settlement negotiations” to end the players’ anti-trust lawsuits, so the talks are between the league and the attorneys for the players, as well as Billy Hunter (part of the NBA’s legal team). Fisher is currently president of a trade union not authorized to negotiate a collective bargaining agreement, so he has no seat at the table.

How the negotiations go may depend on what the sides see as the starting point. If the owners are still using the last offer David Stern made to the players — a 50/50 split of revenues and a soft cap with a stiff luxury tax — the sides may not be far apart. If Stern is at his “reset” offer of 47/53 revenue split with basically a hard cap, they are doomed. What’s more, union officials have suggested their best offer may have come off the table as well. We’ll see.

But at least they are talking. We are back to that.

  1. stoudemiretotherim - Nov 23, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    yes! i hope we can start to capitalize on the momentum of last season, and an opening on christmas day would be special.

    • somekat - Nov 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM

      special like an std special?

      This league sold it’s soul years ago (changed the rules so “superstars” can put up 30 points a game, even though they SHOULD have a dozen turnovers), and are now feeling the results of such action.
      College Basketball = one of the greatest sports in the world
      NBA Basketball = not even a top 15

      • therealhtj - Nov 23, 2011 at 2:19 PM

        The level of play in college hoops is pretty sad. Sure the kids try hard, but less than 1% of them have a shot at sticking in the NBA. The one and done rule and rookie salary scale essentially sacrificed the college game. Until they force kids to stay for 3 years like College Football, College Hoops won’t approach the level of play in the NBA.

        Seriously, unless you went to a tradition-rich NCAA Hoops powerhouse school, the college game is mostly unwatchable.

  2. packymalley - Nov 23, 2011 at 2:37 PM

    Does ANYBODY really care about the NBA let alone on Christmas Day? I think the most compelling story is watching the Heat choke. Other then that, who really cares! The NBA loves having a villan and Miami is it. I still can not figure out who pays for tickets across the league? Super expensive tickets, expensive food, drink and parking, half the league makes the playoffs, same ol’ same ol’ ….

  3. ddrew80 - Nov 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM

    Let’s go I hope these players come to there senses and come to a compromise. Missing the NBA rite know college b-ball is cool but it’s not the NBA.

  4. Amadeus - Nov 23, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    Poor multimillionaires need a paycheck. If they ever do play again, I hope the fans boycot the games. Greedy bastards.

    • rreducla1 - Nov 23, 2011 at 8:12 PM

      Heh. LOL.

      • rreducla1 - Nov 23, 2011 at 8:14 PM

        Stern knows that there a lot of guys like you out there, and he uses that in his favor. But the ride is probably about over, and you can go back to the NFL or whatever.

    • 6thsense79 - Nov 23, 2011 at 10:43 PM

      Can you please explain to me how you’re calling a group of people that agreed to give up $280 million per year greedy? Or maybe you were referring to the owners? In any case this is a negotiation. I wish all sports negotiations were closed because folks like you take it way too personally. With billions at stake sure it will be messy. In the end it will get resolved one way or another and games will be played and people will watch. The same thing happens every sports lockout/strikes….things get leaked, people bitch and moan about greedy this and greedy that, people swear they will not come back and in the end they come back……Unless a there’s a legitimate on the field reason for a sport to fade away it will not happen. After Soccer basketball is the most popular sports in the world. The NBA employs a collection of the best basketball players in the world. The sport and league is not going anywhere.

  5. mogogo1 - Nov 23, 2011 at 5:03 PM

    You gotta love the optimism from these guys. They’ve wasted months and months without reaching a deal, now suddenly they’re back at the table hoping to iron everything out over Thanksgiving so they can be playing real games by Christmas?! We’ll just ignore the inconvenient little facts like that there’s been no training camps, teams like the Lakers have new coaches starting this season, guys are playing overseas right now, and you know there are some players who will eating an entire turkey and pumpkin pie themselves for Thanksgiving.

    • zzjohn - Nov 23, 2011 at 7:01 PM

      Totally agree. I have no interest in an NBA season at this point. I’m an avid Sacramento Kings fan but had to stop going to the games because they just basically priced me out of that luxury and I simply can’t afford it anymore. And who cares anyway? The owners (Maloofs) want to move the Kings unless a new Arena is built; why? More money, more money, more money, more…….

  6. mojoquasi - Nov 23, 2011 at 6:17 PM

    Gee….a whole winter without televised basketball……..one can only dream…….and then……if the gods a are with us……we could do away with baseball and hockey…….

  7. yournuts - Nov 23, 2011 at 7:00 PM

    Here’s hoping that the owners start at the new BRI of 47% players, 53%. The players should always remember who employs them and who feeds them. We should NEVER, and I mean NEVER allow the players to dictate how the league is run or how the BRI is split. Players are employees, W-4 wage earners. The owners gave them an bone last contract and the players now want to be a partner without giving skin.

    Here is hoping that definition the word TEAM is finally learned by the players in basketball. It is a sad state of affairs when an employee can try to force an owner into becoming a partner. The players are so well paid that they have a sense of entitlement and arrogance about them. Instead of embracing the gifts, giving thanks to the owners, and thanking God for their good fortune, they behave in such a way that we can only see as greedy. When we all sit at our tables this thanksgiving and give thanks to our lord for our gifts I wonder what goes through a players mind?

  8. rreducla1 - Nov 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM

    I am now convinced: yournuts is a parody.

    Too bad Kurt can’t just ban him, but I guess there is always the entertainment value.

    If they do make a deal, maybe he’ll leave. We can hope.

    • yournuts - Nov 23, 2011 at 10:01 PM

      Well rreducia1, I’m convinced that you a posse member! Someone who always taking the players side, you must think that the owners are stupid or willing to give the players something that resembles a partnership? I don’t see you having the best interest of the league or the fans. You don’t think my post reflects how 90% of fans feel do you? You actually think that the players are bigger than the game! I can see that if you disagree with someone then you want him banned from posting his feelings. I see who and what you really are!

  9. rgonzales1287 - Nov 23, 2011 at 11:56 PM

    @ packmally. Just cause you don’t like NBA don’t mean a Dam thing, same to all you haters, if your gonna hate keep it to yourselves and leave us NBA fans and players alone, Go watch tennis or somthing

  10. amancio11 - Nov 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM

    I am home watching lame tv when I should have been watching the Spurs play. Lets get with it players. We are tired of going to games and spending all of our extra cash for the month to see one game from bad seats. Give back to your fans by fighting for us. You have millions, let us keep our twenties and allow us to enjoy a game at a cheaper rate.

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