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NBA takes to Twitter to… well, we’re not sure why

Nov 13, 2011, 10:27 PM EDT


The NBA announced on Sunday night they would take questions from people on Twitter and David Stern and Adam Silver would answer them. What followed was a series of refutations from players and repetition of talking points they’ve been spewing for months. It was neither productive, insightful, nor revealing. It did not harness the power of social media, and only served to push the one-sided agenda they’ve been pursuant to for months.

So, no, it didn’t go great.

And that was it.
It was a noble idea. Reach the fans directly, communicate the league’s position, leverage social media. It just came across as more baseless rhetoric, more noise in a white sea of context-less nonsense. The league could have elaborated more on the specifics of the deal, shown how it isn’t as bad as the players have made it out to be. Instead they just said “No, it’s not!” and that was all.
The rhetoric continues as tomorrow’s doomsday clock ticks shorter.
  1. rreducla1 - Nov 13, 2011 at 11:20 PM

    You notice that once the players agreed to 50, which, as Kurt and others have said, essentially gets the owners’ losses back even if we buy their numbers, the argument shifted to “market size” and “competitive balance.”

    One thing that is great about that is that the league’s most recent franchise relocation moved a team to a SMALLER market, where it has a re-upped young star and is a solid contender.

  2. sunsation3413 - Nov 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM

    They can say they are trying to create competitive balance all they want but the star players don’t want to play in small markets. Yes Kevin Durrant is in OKC….for now. Chris Paul wants out of NO and Utah already anticipated Deron Williams departure. Think Dwight Howard would go to Milwaukee or Sacramento. Money motivates both sides.

    • rreducla1 - Nov 14, 2011 at 1:11 AM

      You are right when you say that money motivates both sides.

      But, “for now” in Durant’s case means through the 2015-2016 season. That is forever in basketball time.

      Players mostly want to be where they think they can win, and of course, James took a little less money in leaving Cleveland.

      Duncan has stayed in SA all these years because the team has always been good. I think Howard and Paul want to leave because they think the talent around them is not championship-caliber. Williams wanted out of Utah for the same reason. Garnett played 12 years in Minnesota.

      Carmelo Anthony did specifically want to be in New York…in part because he was born in Brooklyn. And, Denver got a good return for him. That deal neither made the Knicks nor ruined Denver.

      Shaq did want to be a Laker, but people forget that he was joining a good team.The Lakers went 53-29 the year before they got him.

      People tend to think of “superstars” as an amorphous mass, but they are all different. If some futire star has ties to the Sacramento area and thinks he can win there, it may well happen that a big FA joins the Kings.

  3. mondzy805 - Nov 14, 2011 at 12:34 AM

    Sign a deal already. Its not getting any better than what’s offered already.

  4. trbowman - Nov 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM

    This blog is so pro player.

    Here we go owners, here we go.

    • deadeyedesign23 - Nov 14, 2011 at 12:59 AM

      I don’t get this team mentality with people rooting for the owners.

      Unless you hate basketball, the owners are the people keeping you from watching it. It’s a lockout not a strike.

      • trbowman - Nov 14, 2011 at 1:04 AM

        I don’t hate basketball, obviously, but I do hate the NBA as is. If sacraficing a season is necessary to get a good deal for the NBA long term, I’m all in.

      • rreducla1 - Nov 14, 2011 at 1:14 AM

        Some people just buy whatever Stern is selling. Doesn’t matter to them how many times others point out the various flaws in the owners’ positions.

        I think the players should take the deal, regroup, and long-term plan for the next go-round.

  5. deadeyedesign23 - Nov 14, 2011 at 1:06 AM

    I love all these capitalist owners who made whir millions if not billions by operating better than their competitors who who failed and died. Yet when they can’t make their team competitive they cry for Socialism.

    If your team can’t succeed, can’t draw fans, and can’t survive then it should be like any other business and that team should go away. Don’t like it? Run a better business. Can’t sign the free agents you want? Well that’s why it costs more to buy a team in L.A. than it would to buy your team in Charlotte, Cleveland, Portland, etc.

    • deadeyedesign23 - Nov 14, 2011 at 1:06 AM

      their*…not whir….whatever the hell that is.

  6. genericcommenter - Nov 14, 2011 at 1:41 AM

    I’ve been with the players the whole way, but I just read the PDF of Stern’s memo outlining the proposal, and I think they should take it.

    • rreducla1 - Nov 14, 2011 at 9:44 AM

      I do too, mostly, actually. They will, I am sure, ask for a couple of tweaks.

  7. bearsstillsuck - Nov 14, 2011 at 4:59 AM

    whether your for the owners or not, its annoying as hell just reading one side of the story. these guys are clearly just bloggers and not journalists. I can’t wait for the lockout to end just so I can stop reading their pro player propaganda.

    • rreducla1 - Nov 14, 2011 at 9:45 AM

      There are plenty of places to get the owners’ side. Stern talks to ESPN at length at least once a week.

      Plus, the owners have already won. They are just trying to get more concessions now,

  8. acieu - Nov 14, 2011 at 6:18 AM

    I think the players should decertify and they and the entire PBT staff should commit collective ritual suicide in protest of the harsh and terrible ownership in the NBA.

    • rreducla1 - Nov 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM

      I thinnk if anything drives the PBT staff to suicide, it will be all the uneducated pro-owner commenters who deal in snark and emotion and ignore facts.

      If you think the owners should get more money and the players should get less, fair enough. And if you think that guys like Dwight Howard should have to stay with the teams that drafted them or should only sign with team in places that are OK with angry small-market fans, well, just because they feel that way, fair enough. But that is pretty much the beginning and the end of the pro-owner position.

      Profitability could be ensured by more revenue sharing, which the owners still have not worked out among themselves.

      The “competitive balance” argument has holes you could fit Charles Barkley through, as has been shown by many writers in many places.

      End of story.

  9. darealrandolph - Nov 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM

    They can say they are trying to create competitive balance all they want but stars wont sign with small markets. Dwight Howard would rather play in Brooklyn then Sacramento or Indiana, Chris Paul is leaving the big easy for New York(Knicks) or L.A (Clippers) ,Deron Williams is gonna either play in Brooklyn with Dwight Howard or play in L.A with Blake Griffin so i don’t see the logic of competitive balance because stars will sign with big markets that have cap space maybe even taken less money rather then play for Jordan’s bobcats(players and agents wont sign with hardliners team’s unless they overpay)

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