Comments on: Union attorney says owners treat players like “plantation workers” http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/ Basketball - NBC Sports Fri, 24 May 2013 01:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: rreducla1 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-57084 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:24:56 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-57084 Sure. And the owners are free to sell if they are losing money.

Like most of your posts, this has no point and is just you venting.

]]> By: rreducla1 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-57083 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:21:33 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-57083 Yeah. After all, that was another poster called yournuts who has said–several times–that antone who is pro-player is in their “posse”. And that was another guy named yournuts who talked about players and their “hos.”

So yes, I can see why you are insulted.

]]> By: 1historian http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-57026 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:30:10 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-57026 In 50 years we have gone from Bull Connor to Barack Obama

]]> By: lblock07 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-57024 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:21:12 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-57024 You are absolutely right bmorehomeofthewire. It is easier to ignore racial issues by saying that person is pulling “the race card” then to truly analyze the racial history in America and how those issues are still affecting us today. And when I say analyze the racial history I’m not talking about knowing that slavery was bad or that inequality still exist, in this sense that is a superficial understanding of the problems.

I don’t understand why so many of you guys are projecting the feelings of gumble and kessler onto ALL of the players. If I’m not mistaken, both of these guys DO NOT play in the NBA and both of them are known for making controversial remarks in their respective careers (sport analyst/lawyer). What does that have do with the players? Even if 5 players admit they share the sentiment, realize it is dangerous and counterproductive to overgeneralize ANY group of people.

Anyway, imo Stern is not a racist, at least of what I can judge. He is an arrogant, condescending, mean old cuss who is equally likely to talked down to any one whom he deems as under his control. ex. Jeff Van Gundy

]]> By: basketballfan4life http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56921 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:04:32 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56921 Quote of the day: “The new racism is to act as if racism doesn’t exist” Beautiful.

Tell me, is it using the race card when a European refers to an NBA player as a inner “city thugs”. monoply is on racism. u are an ass jack for even saying that dumb as shit. A monopoly is always had by the inventor

]]> By: cosanostra71 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56912 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:53:03 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56912 Kessler is a turd

]]> By: buckifan4life http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56900 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:51:57 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56900 Typical move. When the tantrum doesn’t work and all else fails, throw out the race card.

Where’s Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson at? They need some face time…

]]> By: reastnt http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56898 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:20:14 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56898 > Since when did “plantation workers” suddenly become “slavery references”?

Yes, Kessler was clearly making the point the NBA owners treat NBA players like minimum wage immigrants, who are only slaves in a metaphorical sense. Everyone knows there’s no overtones of slavery when you accuse someone of treating people as plantation workers.

(For the humor-impaired, this is known as sarcasm.)

]]> By: fx1718 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56896 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:22:24 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56896 Slavery = $00.00/hr for work done, no choice, no free will. Thats the same as taking a 16k pay cut?

If taking a pay cut = Slavery than it has happened during every recession in every industry since time and economies began.

]]> By: 1historian http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56895 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:20:49 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56895 Correction – if there WERE any sign

]]> By: 1historian http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56894 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:19:38 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56894 If there any sign that this is a dispute between grown-ups we (the gum-chewing public – GCP) might care.

This story serves to inform us that such is not the case.

BTW – Us white folks lost the monopoly on racism LONG ago.

]]> By: yournuts http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56889 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:07:01 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56889 worldbfree4me, I don’t think the salaries went down, did it? It’s about the BRI. The BRI expired and the problem is that the owners lost money and the players didn’t lose a thing. So your comment make it sound like the players lost 50% of their salary, which it didn’t.
Secondly I am insulted that the race card was brought up. Totally insulted.

]]> By: yournuts http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56888 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:02:47 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56888 bmorehomeofthewire, perhaps you should educate everyone as to why the players feel like the owners are plantation owners when the players can go anywhere they want and work where they want to, and for as much as the market bears? Are they being forced to play here or can they go to France, Israel, China, Russia, Spain or any other country to play or get a job based upon their work history.
Inquiring minds want to know?

]]> By: yournuts http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56886 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:55:52 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56886 Did you ever hear of reverse racism? Always playing the race card?

]]> By: entropy13 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56870 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 05:01:19 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56870 Since when did “plantation workers” suddenly become “slavery references”? It may have been the case in the 19th century, but CURRENTLY there are still plantation workers, but they aren’t slaves in its “truest” sense, only in a “metaphorical” sense, since because they are minimum wage (and usually immigrants) the owners have greater “power” over these workers. The workers don’t have any leverage at all.

]]> By: worldbfree4me http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56869 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 05:00:27 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56869 None of you clowns it! While use of the word slavery is harsh, the way Stern is playing this game no pun intended is slavish. If I’m a teacher and the prevailing wage is 46k / year and Ohio or some other Union Busting State tells me that I should get paid 30k, they are in-effect treating me like a “Slave!”

]]> By: bmorehomeofthewire http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56864 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:36:27 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56864 Educate Yourselves People

]]> By: santolonius http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56863 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:18:39 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56863 men who play a game with a ball and make millions and feel oppressed.

]]> By: bmorehomeofthewire http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56862 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:18:28 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56862 Typical ignorant responses. Folks we are aware that the new racism it to deny that racism exist.. I don’t give a damn how much money the players make.,,,

]]> By: twitter:Chapman_Jamie http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56857 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:07:55 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56857 just like the NFL. this guy is destroying the game.

]]> By: kandh2004 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56854 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:33:52 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56854 Avg. salary is 2.5 million dollars if they think that is slave wages then tell them to switch positions with the person at a Walmart or any other medium wage job. This guy is a joke did the same thing during the NFL lockout. I will have 2.5 million reasons why if they don’t take a deal I will be done with basketball

]]> By: steviekthr3e http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56853 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:03:07 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56853 Ok so we have adrian peterson covering the nfl with the slave reference, i lost count of nba players/reps using the slave reference, good ol gumble for the media, whos gonna use it in the mlb? Big papi? Hanley ramirez? Brian wilson?

Just rediculous these ppl keep using this reference. How bout we give them a $7.50/hr “salary” and we can whip those “slaves” into reality 40+ hrs a week?

]]> By: ocgunslinger http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56852 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:57:07 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56852 Hey…..if a deal is done his billing @ $1,500 an hour stops. Gee….wonder why more progress is not made and why he is inflaming the situation.

]]> By: reupjosh http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56851 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:43:54 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56851 Iameasish: could not gave said it better.

]]> By: mrf47 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56850 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:42:22 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56850 Kessler just is still pissed that he got his ass kickd in the NFL negotiations.

]]> By: lameasish http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56849 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:40:10 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56849 Planet, not plant, I am only correcting because I know how these posts go…

]]> By: lameasish http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56846 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:37:51 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56846 Ahhh, the old race card, being paid millions to play a sport, yet they complain…give it a rest. The funny thing about all this is that the owners do not need the players to continue to make money, they were already rich (via their other business ventures). Last time I checked, a guy making 50k a year cannot afford a professional sports team, therefore you must already be wealthy. Players NEED the owners to become rich. Accept what they offered or make nothing just like you do playing in these put together games that all players seem to be making up. As much as I love all sports I wish we all did not hold them in such high regard, there is no reason why a guy who can put a ball in a hoop should be paid so much, yet a doctor who saves lives or one of the many other people on this plant that actually make a difference get paid absolutely nothing compared to them. Then again, most people will think this post is dumb and athletes are superior to everyone else… until they turn 35 and you want them traded or to retire.

]]> By: goforthanddie http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56845 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:34:36 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56845 I would LOVE to be a slave for a guaranteed 7-figure contract.

]]> By: yankeesjetsknicksrangers http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56844 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:34:31 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56844 As real as the racial disparities are in this country (black unemployment usually runs double than that of whites) race is an effective tactic to use in negotiations. The media (predominantly white) will steer clear of scrutinizing the validity, or at the very least criticizing such comments for fear of saying something stupid and possibly risk losing their jobs.

Inevitably such comments divide us along skin color and tend to bring out the worst in people.

]]> By: therealhtj http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/union-attorney-says-stern-treats-players-like-%e2%80%9cplantation-workers%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-56843 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:17:12 +0000 http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=34274#comment-56843 In related news, “Stern says Union attorney treats players like ‘ATM Machine.’”

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