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Deron Williams is frustrated the union hasn’t already decertified

Nov 6, 2011, 11:31 AM EDT

Deron Williams AP

You’re going to be seeing a lot of reactions to the dramatics of Saturday night’s end to talks. Some players will likely just say that they want to play; it’s not that they want to cave, they’re just tired of the whole damn thing and don’t think it’s worth it. You’re going to see a lot more outrage, including some players who may previously have been conciliatory and now will become acerbic. That’s what happens when you threaten and give ultimatums after bullying and pressing someone for two years and when you provide an offer that doesn’t even allow them to save face (a 50-52 band heavily weighted towards 50-51 would give the players the ability to say they held at 52 without giving them 52… but noooo).

And then you’re going to have those who have wanted to go after the league through the courts for months coming out stronger than ever. One such player plays for Besiktas in Turkey in front of 2500 people a night. Deron Williams on Twitter:

I’ve been ready to sign a decertification petition since July? Can’t believe we are just now going this route! SMHSun Nov 06 08:38:08 via Twitter for BlackBerry®


We’re about to see exactly how large that contingent of players supporting decertification and antitrust action is, and how big it grew to be after Stern and the owners’ tactics Saturday.

If the players don’t buckle like the league is betting they will, everyone loses. Players won’t win the suit, league loses the season, owners own a team that doesn’t exist, more jobs will be lost, fans lose games, basketball in America is hurt. No one wins. The league has given the players two options: take an offer that hurts your earning potential, union strength, and dignity, or ruin everything.

Great choices. It’s like the menu at an iHOP without breakfast food.

  1. mashoaf - Nov 6, 2011 at 11:36 AM

    Why? You’re making money overseas. So your argument for decertification is not relevant because any player playing in Europe that signs his name can be singled out that the NBA does not break anti trust laws, because you have work else where playing basketball.

    • snoopy2014 - Nov 6, 2011 at 12:21 PM

      Aren’t antitrust laws federal, though? Meaning the suit would be against a federal trust, not an international one, right?

      Honest question, I really am not familiar with the antitrust laws at all.

      • jckid21 - Nov 6, 2011 at 12:43 PM

        I love the word “antitrust”…Forget out business laws, isn’t it a great word to describe the relationship between players and owners.

  2. texmex2 - Nov 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM

    If the BRI was reversed at 57/43 in the owners favor, what’s the big deal…Give the owners their share of the glory (money-greed)….Does “any” NFL teams lose money, of course not, they rake in the money. Add in the fact No One makes the salary’s-benefits like NBA Players and they would still be the highest paid athletes in sports the WORLD over @ 43/57…The NFL is a Unique product confined basically to the U.S. and Canada; Basketball is played throughout the WORLD so the players also have the option to take their “talents” elsewhere….~Yo player you are not a partner in this venture, only an employee like the rest of the 99% of the World, get over it, sign the deal and play ball~

    • jckid21 - Nov 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM

      “Does “any” NFL teams lose money, of course not, they rake in the money”

      YES NFL teams do lose money – The Detroit Lions did last year…….

      http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eimh45gjh/the-worst-1-william-clay-ford-sr-detroit-lions

      Just saying.

      • Kurt Helin - Nov 7, 2011 at 2:24 AM

        For the record, you have to screw up pretty bad to lose money in the NFL. Teams lose money here and there for a year, bu the league as a whole makes money.

  3. mikeewright7 - Nov 6, 2011 at 3:59 PM

    Man i just wanna see some basketball!!!! and Soon…….Tryin to see what My Boston Celtics look like and the MVp Derrick Rose gone do

  4. KIR - Nov 6, 2011 at 8:04 PM

    Billy Hunter should be fired. Its obvious decertification is the players only leverage and he waited too long to use it. Before the threat of decertification the owners wouldn’t except a penny under 50/50 now they’re willing to go to 51%? That tells me the players probably could have gotten 53 or 54% if they would have decertified months ago and threatened an antitrust lawsuit.

    • Kurt Helin - Nov 7, 2011 at 2:22 AM

      For the record, the owners have not gone above 50/50. The players are at 51.

    • somekat - Nov 7, 2011 at 9:07 AM

      From what I’ve read, and I could be wrong, the owners are not offering 51%. They are offering a 51/49 split in the owners favor. if the league makes a certain amount of money, then it would switch to 51/49 in the players favor. So basically, if the players (who keep telling us the league is 100% them), perform and bring in fans, they all make money.

      I would love that at my job, “you do your job well, you get an instant bonus”. That’s not how ANY job I know of works outside of sales (who general have a crap salary), but I’m sure the players will still talk about how the owners are “trying to put them back on the plantation”

  5. Fred - Nov 6, 2011 at 9:55 PM

    The way things went down with foreign leagues this fall may actually strengthen the players’ antitrust argument, since the overwhelming majority of NBA players have and would be unable to secure jobs overseas.

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