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Shaq says LeBron never listened to Mike Brown in Cleveland

Nov 2, 2011, 10:40 AM EDT

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Shaquille O’Neal knows how to sell books. Make friends, not so much. But he’s going to sell copies of his new book.

We already brought you excerpts where Shaq throws Kobe Bryant under the bus (and only Brian Shaw had a level head and dealt with the situation, but you don’t want him to be the Lakers coach). And there was the part where Shaq said he didn’t back down from Pat Riley.

Next up, LeBron. And how he didn’t listen to coach Mike Brown (via Hoopsworld).

LeBron was a huge star. He was as big as I was in 2000 in L.A. when I was dominating the league. … Our coach, Mike Brown, was a nice guy, but he had to live on edge because nobody was supposed to be confrontational with LeBron. Nobody wanted him to leave Cleveland, so he was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do.

I remember one day in a film session LeBron didn’t get back on defense after a missed shot. Mike Brown didn’t say anything about it. He went to the next clip and it was Mo Williams not getting back and Mike was saying, “Yo, Mo, we can’t have that. You’ve got to hustle a little more.” So Delonte West is sitting there and he’s seen enough and he stands up and says, “Hold up, now. You can’t be pussyfooting around like that. Everyone has to be accountable for what they do, not just some us.” Mike Brown said, “I know, Delonte. I know.” Mike knew Delonte was right. …

I’m not sure if Kobe is going to listen to Mike Brown. LeBron never really did. Here’s what we do know: Kobe will definitely be in charge.

I think the Kobe and Brown dynamic will be different because of the stage of his career. Brown was handcuffed with James. Kobe and the Lakers nearing the end of a championship window and they can’t waste a year feuding with the coach. They have no choice but to buy in. Kobe may be in charge but he is passionate about things like film and studying the game. It’s a different dynamic.

But it makes you wonder how Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley deal with LeBron. Or do they have an intermediary in Dwyane Wade who can help?

  1. secdominance - Nov 2, 2011 at 10:56 AM

    Shaq calling anyone out for not hustling is high comedy. And given what we know, Spo and Riley always talk about how coachable he is.

    • savocabol1 - Nov 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

      Did you even read the article? Shaq wasn’t calling out Lebron for not hustling. He was calling him out for not LISTENING to his coach.

      Any Cleveland fan knew about this. Lebron did his own thing. Mike Brown coached everyone but Lebron. It was reported numerous times how much LBJ didn’t listen to anyone but his own gang of merry men he brought to sit next to the bench.

      Finally, I think it is laughable that you believe that “Spo and Riley always talk about how coachable he is.” What are they supposed to say? The truth? Hahaha, fat chance. You know how much drama that would cause?

  2. steviekthr3e - Nov 2, 2011 at 12:04 PM

    Its not shaq calling out lebron on not hustling. Its THE COACH (the guy paid millions to teach/critique players) not calling out lebron because hes too scared to hurt poor bron brons feelings

    • cordae - Nov 2, 2011 at 5:07 PM

      Everybodies pointing the finger at LeBron, which alot of it is his fault for being the diva, but shouldn’t more of the blame be placed on management? I mean a player will only do what you let him do. Danny should’ve had some damn dignity and told no matter how good he was that he was a player apart of a team that will be treated just as everyone else is. Its ironic, he’s guilty of the same thing he accuses LeBron of doing, “ring chasing”. He was so obsessed with winning a ring he let an 18 year-old kid run his franchise on AND off the court.

      • electstat - Nov 4, 2011 at 12:24 PM

        Again…the article stated that they were all concerned about LeBron leaving; hence, the double standard.

  3. asublimeday - Nov 2, 2011 at 12:06 PM

    I don’t even know how the rest of us deal with lebron.

  4. mjbulls45 - Nov 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM

    I’m the last person to ever pick any book up and start reading

    but i’m leaning heavily in buying this book to read, this stuff is great,

    raw, uncut , behind the scenes , REALITY of what was going on and can help give you an idea of what is going on NOW…

    Shaq has no reason to lie, he’s outlandish, foolish sometimes, but every story of his have always turned out to be TRUTH

    stories about lakers, biggie smalls, new jersey growing up, heat years, movies, women, kobe, lebron, etc…

    • 1historian - Dec 7, 2011 at 9:45 PM

      “I’m the last person to ever pick any book up and start reading”

      That’s as far as i got

  5. jayrandle - Nov 2, 2011 at 12:28 PM

    Shaq…talk about pointing the finger at everybody else…

    Shaq…who never was in shape…would annually miss 40 a season on ‘injuries’.

    Ran Stan Van Gundy out of Miami…Ran Brian Hill out of Orlando.

    I dont respect athletes who have nothing to say at the time…but want to throw everybody under the bus.

    You dont think Shaq got special treatment and he listened to every coach he had.
    This is the same Shaq that claim ‘he throw Zo down to the ground like a rag doll’.

    Sorry…but not interested in Shaq ‘ I was constantly 30 lbs over my playing weight’ O’Neal.

    • passerby23 - Nov 2, 2011 at 1:09 PM

      Is it really a stretch to say that Lebron was coddled and spoiled in Cleveland? Half the time Lebron looked disinterested in timeouts when Brown was talking. I don’t think any of what Shaq said is an attack on Lebron, but the culture that was built up around him.

      Shaq confronting Riley probably isn’t out of step with a lot of players’ confrontations with him. Riley was a hard-nosed, no-nonsense coach who probably berated a lot of guys.

      I haven’t read the book, but Shaq pointing out these things doesn’t mean he thinks he’s infallible.

  6. santolonius - Nov 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM

    if any nba player reads this, consider the following…
    right now on the pro football talk, there is a post about a former player slamming jon gruden. gruden who is not a star player, not a star coach, maybe a star announcer on a good day. it has 33 comments. here ion PBT is a post about one of the top five biggest NBA stars of all time slamming the current number 1 or 2 player in your entire league… and i am the 7th comment. hey you, guy down the bench on the atlanta hawks, if the nba was as relevant as you think it is, this post should have 150 comments. take the deal. save your sport from entering true and ultimate oblivion.

    • shea801 - Nov 3, 2011 at 11:22 AM

      You know you’re in trouble when the NHL players are saying you need to get a deal done.

    • sasquash20 - Nov 3, 2011 at 4:53 PM

      I agree with most of what you say in terms of the NBA and its popularity. However Jon Gruden is a star coach, and a star announcer. He won a SB, he has more wins then loses. Do I think hes an overrated coach? yes I do, but to say hes not a star coach is wrong. Same thing on the announcer gig. He just signed another contract to keep doing that. I’m not his biggest fan but he has plenty of them and your selling him short.

    • Colin Zvosec - Nov 8, 2011 at 3:36 PM

      You want to know what the most likely answer is? The NFL is in the middle of their season. The NBA hasn’t started yet. If you were to look at this site in the middle of the summer last year, articles mentioning LeBron James consistently had 100’s of comments.

      Besides, since when did we start measuring league relevance by the number of comments on an internet blog?

      (Oh, and no one is debating that the NFL is far and away the most popular league in America. Not sure what the goal here is.)

  7. ogre2010 - Nov 2, 2011 at 1:43 PM

    I had to laugh when I read that piece!!

  8. ogre2010 - Nov 2, 2011 at 1:46 PM

    @ santolonius: best post on here!!

  9. steviekthr3e - Nov 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

    @ santolonius
    Good point.

    A sad reality these guys are biting the hands that feeed them

  10. blueintown - Nov 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM

    Kudos to Delonte West for standing up to Lebron. Shame on Delonte West for ******* Lebron’s ******. (We’ll keep it clean for the kids).

  11. mjbulls45 - Nov 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM

    power stuggles over cake happen, its business.

    -basketball is a global game

    -NBA comes more into focus after the Lombardi trophy is handed out

    -NBA Finals rule the month of June every summer.

    girls, summer nights, nba finals weekdays, beer pong, bloonts, and life is lived every June.

  12. buckifan4life - Nov 2, 2011 at 2:38 PM

    That’s no surprise. That’s what spoiled brat babys do. They don’t listen to anyone and do what they want. Spoelstra is being treated the same. If he wasn’t, when LeJerk ran into him with his shoulder (on purpose) Spoelstra would’ve benched him right then and ther. Period.

    LeBum has no heart, all the talent in the world, probably more than Jordan ever had, but no winning will. Jordan was ALL heart!

    • electstat - Nov 4, 2011 at 12:28 PM

      The best thing that could have happened to LeBron when that happened was for Spoelstra to turn, yell at LeBron, “What the F was that?!” and then bench him for the rest of the game.

  13. cosmicatomic - Nov 2, 2011 at 4:00 PM

    Not really surprising for anyone who enjoyed reading Adrian W’s Yahoo columns on how the entire organization walked on eggshells with LeBron. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mike Brown got orders from up top to treat LeBron like a true king.

    And hey, maybe that’s not an issue if LeBron is winning you championships. But he wasn’t. And he hasn’t.

    • sonofsambowie - Nov 2, 2011 at 7:25 PM

      Yeah, this is stuff we already knew, more or less.

  14. goforthanddie - Nov 2, 2011 at 4:41 PM

    Kobe/leb differ in two important areas: intelligence and maturity. Kobe may be in charge, but he’s smart enough to work with Brown.

    • cosmicatomic - Nov 2, 2011 at 4:52 PM

      Not to mention…..leadership. Kobe is one of those guys who you know will chew out his teammates if they F up or aren’t doing things the right way. Doesn’t appear to me that LeBron is that type….he just wants to have fun and laugh and dance with his teammates.

  15. philtration - Nov 2, 2011 at 8:54 PM

    I grew tired of Shaq’s tired act about 10 years ago.

    He has done nothing to change my mind about him this last week.

  16. philtration - Nov 2, 2011 at 9:50 PM

    That pic is fitting.
    Shaq sits around all year playing the “I am hurt” game again and then expects to make a token appearance in the playoffs so someone else can get him a ring to keep up with Kobe.

    A great player once but he finished as a mumbling, slurring, out of shape clown and he needs to shut up.

  17. shag12 - Nov 3, 2011 at 8:32 PM

    LeBron is another one of those who can’t perform in the playoffs.

  18. redbullenergydrink - Dec 2, 2011 at 5:19 PM

    When you’re the KING, no one tells you what to do.

    I probably wouldn’t listen to my boss either if I was making 10 times more money than he was.

  19. jayzus - Feb 4, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    Shack is a douche. As his relevancy diminishes am sure we can expect little nuggets like these to get headlines when ever possible.

  20. thetooloftools - Jun 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    All LeBron James did in Cleveland was run his mouth about what he WAS GOING to do. “I will not rest till I bring a championship to Cleveland”. He’s a P.O.S. The ring is tainted. They colluded to get it.
    You can take the kid out of Akron, but you can’t take Akron out of the kid. He should take a belt sander to that 330 tattoo.
    He’s not loyal to anyone. We will burn the Q down before he ever plays for the Cavs again.

  21. richwizl - Nov 29, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Overrated piece of garbage; barely average shooter, runs everybody over like a truck.

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