Comments on: If Cavs sends Baron Davis packing, Lakers or Knicks may win

By: elliob

elliob — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:25:44 +0000

@Kurt, you expect other veterans to get more out of an under performing veteran with poor work ethic? When was the last time that worked?

By: Colin Zvosec

Colin Zvosec — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:40:34 +0000

Davis was fantastic in Cleveland. I said it. I loved watching him after the trade. He played with energy and heart. He really embraced the “veteran leadership” role. He had started to do that in LA towards the end of his time there as well.

If he goes to Miami, I can’t imagine anyway the Heat don’t win the championship. The thing about Baron is he knows how to be a true PG, but he’s shown the ability (much more limited now, but still there) to get shots up. It would be another guy LeBron could count on down the stretch because it was too easy for Dallas to make sure Wade didn’t score.

By: Kurt Helin

Kurt Helin — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:21:19 +0000

I have seen a lot of Davis in person. Davis remains what he was in GSW — when he shows up focused he’s very good. He just does that one out of every 10 games or so. The question is could a more veteran locker room get more out of him?

By: buckifan4life

buckifan4life — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:01:11 +0000

Franchise tag is needed in Basketball. That would cause problems creating these superteams under a soft salary cap.

Design your league like the NFL and it will flourish. Players will have less guaranteed money (which is BS in my opinion anyway). Owners need to keep the lockout until a reasonable contract can be met.

By: aqzi

aqzi — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:54:08 +0000

savo: Solid point but I bet Cleveland would be hurt if Z stayed and then were to leave this year.

By: sonofsambowie

sonofsambowie — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:38:13 +0000

This reads like Kurt hasn’t seen much of Baron since he left the GSW’s. The guy was a total embarrassment in LA, and basicallyruined the franchise for the last three years. The Clippers were so desperate to get rid of him that they shipped a pick and took back a guy they weren’t even that keen on. Baron’s time here was a total disaster.

http://sonofsambowie.blogspot.com/2011/10/chorus-of-insane-laughter-you-hear-is.html

Also, I always shake my head when people say “oh, well he’s better than the guy they have now!”. What does that even mean? Who cares if he’s technically a better player or would beat the other guy in a game of 1-on-1 or whatever. Fact is, he’s been overweight for years, can hardly be counted on to stay healthy and basically just hoists threes these days, despite being 32% from deep for his career.

By: savocabol1

savocabol1 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:23:33 +0000

You can think that all you want Kurt but Big Z going to the Heat didn’t hurt Cleveland. And he is Mr. Cleveland.

By: ghelton03

ghelton03 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:58:35 +0000

I am not for a one time amnesty when the lockout ends. It is not fair to the teams who have recently had to suffer through bad contracts, bad players, injuries and retirements. I would be more in favor of perminent rule changes that wouldn’t take effect for a couple of years.

Gilbert should consider keeping every player he has. I don’t think any player, let alone a star player, will play for Gilbert after the lockout. And the hard cap will hurt Cleveland more than any other team. If you could make the same money in Cleveland as anywhere else in the league, you would go anywhere else in the league. The only chance Gilbert has to get a player is to overpay them. Otherwise he will only get the players that have no where else to go.

By: barkley4life

barkley4life — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:33:52 +0000

Beno Udrih would be perfect in Miami. Miami needs a PG and more athletic length badly. They can’t go into next season with Haslem as their only legit big off the bench. They don’t really need Mike Miller any SF that can stretch the floor can fill his role. If they dont waive him with amnesty I don’t know what they are thinking. Haywood/Camby/Dalembert are the perfect type of veteran length they need.

I don’t think Gilbert will care much after this year. Lebron stumbling as much as he did in the Finals is all that was needed for those wounds. The ultimate kill shot was if LBJ won in his first year. That would have DESTROYED Gilbert and Cleveland. Now its not that big of a deal IMO.

By: Kurt Helin

Kurt Helin — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:21:31 +0000

Anyone who would go from Cleveland to help the Heat win would hurt Gilbert. Now, would injury prone, ball dominating Baron Davis help Miami win is another question.

By: savocabol1

savocabol1 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:45:25 +0000

I highly doubt that someone who has been on the Cavs for mere months would be a shot to the heart of Dan Gilber if they left, regardless of where they go. Especially someone who 1) isn’t a young rising star 2) is now an injury prone veteran with a smaller window of playing time left and 3) has such a massive contract. I get more and more amazed on the amout of drama and conflicts the media attempts to generate with their stories.