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It’s official: NBA cancels games through November. Ugh.

Oct 28, 2011, 6:46 PM EDT

NBA Labor Basketball AP

Even when you know it’s coming, it doesn’t make it any less painful.

There will be no NBA games in November.

David Stern said in his press conference following the dissolution of labor talks (again!) that all games through Nov. 30 would be canceled.

That also means there will be no 82 game NBA season this year, he said.

“It’s not practical, possible or prudent to have a full season now… in light of the breakdown of talks there will not be a full NBA schedule this season,” Stern said.

This cancelation will hit the players in the pocketbook — their first paycheck for this season was due on Nov. 15 (they get paid on the 15th and 30th during the season).

A number of owners had wanted to make the players miss paychecks, to feel that pain, knowing that is their ultimate leverage. The players have been dug in for more than a year knowing this was coming and many say they are fine. Still missing a paycheck is missing a paycheck.

The sticking points in talks remain the split of basketball related income (league revenue) and how a more stiff luxury tax will fit.

The big date looming on the horizon is Christmas, a showcase day for the NBA where marquee teams play on national television. For the more casual sports fan, that is like the NBA’s second opening day. It’s when they really start watching. It will take about 30 days to get up and running from the day the two sides reach a handshake deal, so you do the math. It’s not long.

  1. trbowman - Oct 28, 2011 at 7:00 PM

    Go Wizards!

    Go Small Market Owners!

  2. bjtmeyer - Oct 28, 2011 at 7:15 PM

    I don’t care about the NBA anymore. I’m happy with the NFL and NCAA basketball. I will have a good laugh if the whole season is lost. The only losers in this are the normal people who work for the teams and arenas.

    • david8726 - Oct 28, 2011 at 10:03 PM

      The fans are losers too. For people like myself who truly love basketball, this sucks.

      • florida727 - Oct 29, 2011 at 7:52 AM

        Seriously, david8726, try to embrace college basketball. It’s far more a ‘team’ game. The NBA is so predictable it’s pathetic. Is my one-on-one guy better than your one-on-one guy? Put 100 points on the board for each team and 2 minutes on the clock and you’ve just defined an NBA game 90% of the time. The college game dwarfs the NBA for entertainment value. It’s not about ‘me’, it’s about ‘team’ in college. The NBA doesn’t even start being worth watching until the playoffs, with a few exceptions.

      • nelle - Oct 29, 2011 at 8:57 AM

        florida… women’s college hoops for me.

  3. SmackSaw - Oct 28, 2011 at 7:15 PM

    Go away Wizards! Go away Small Market Owners! Contraction is inevitable!

  4. SmackSaw - Oct 28, 2011 at 7:16 PM

    I’m watching the NHL instead. It’ll do.

  5. sportsinhd - Oct 28, 2011 at 7:24 PM

    Stern and the owners are criminals and thieves, simple as that.

  6. nelle - Oct 28, 2011 at 7:35 PM

    To date, they sides haven’t negotiated, the owners have dictated. All the movement is on the part of the players. In essence,the owners want to limit the earning ability of the players whilst they simultaneously refuse to help each other through revenue sharing.

    The players have agreed to drop from 57% share to 52.5%. The reason there is no agreement is the owners wish to screw the players. I never cared much about sports strikes, but on this one believe the players have a legitimate gripe.

  7. electstat - Oct 28, 2011 at 7:51 PM

    nelle – That’s called being an owner. If the employees don’t like who they work for, they can go get another job. I’m sure they can do just fine playing in Europe. Or, even better, they can use that college education they got for free.

    • snoopy2014 - Oct 28, 2011 at 9:32 PM

      Yes, because the Lakers and Bulls rosters would look just as good filled with D-Leaguers and European league rejects. Or maybe that guy with the beer belly who plays at your local YMCA. These “employees” are uniquely proficient at what they do. Acknowledge that. That gives them power in a negotiation.

      The mere existence of the ABA at one point in time shows that owners and leagues are not irreplaceable. The owners can play their hardass line as much as they want, but their revenue is a direct result of these superstar talents — sorry, employees. Sure, they’re owners – they have the right to fire their players if they want. But all I’m saying is replacing Kobe Bryant with Smush Parker isn’t the smartest business move if you’re trying to run a profitable franchise. Acknowledging that, the owners should be making a greater effort at negotiation.

  8. nelle - Oct 28, 2011 at 8:01 PM

    Really? Being an owner means you can set collusive rules for employees but none to govern your own financial conduct? If players are asked to cap their earnings individually, and face a group cap per team, then it seems reasonable something similar should exist for owners.

    People will talk about owners taking risks and all that, but this is about mitigating risk to guarantee an income stream.

    Negotiations are supposed to be finding a middle ground. The owners claim they are hurting – yet don’t allow access to their financials to prove it. Do you really believe players should take their word for it? If they produced the books and they truly are seen as hurting, the players will move, and the owners damn well know this, so the fact they don’t produce them means it is all blown smoke.

    Reasonable people wish to see reasonable agreements. I wouldn’t be for players sticking it to management any more than I am for the reverse. I don’t like to see sides have it all their way, and right now, the owners want it all their way.

    The players agreed to a 4.5% drop, it seems reasonable they might go to five; the owners would have to move only 2% to give themselves a net gain – yet they refuse.

    • david8726 - Oct 28, 2011 at 10:02 PM

      All logical and reasonable points. Don’t understand why people are down voting you.

    • kast2l - Oct 28, 2011 at 11:50 PM

      as david8726 said… all reasonable points BUT owners want if not close to 100% profits so they are hurting in a sense to that they are not seeing those profits

    • texmex2 - Oct 29, 2011 at 2:09 AM

      Hey num nut, there is no longer a CBA, get it, there is no agreement. New day, if the old CBA was viable there would be no argument between the TWO side, of which, oh by the way 50/50 split is more than fair.
      “collusive rules” whaaa LOFLMAO, nelle please keep your day job at Jack’s place…..

      • david8726 - Oct 29, 2011 at 3:47 AM

        So you’re saying that because there is an argument, that is proof that the old CBA wasn’t viable? Uhh, no.

        The owners have refused to open their books so the whole world can see just how profitable or not profitable the league was under the last CBA. They are CLAIMING they lost a lot of money, but they haven’t provided any proof. They are asking you to take their word for it….. and if you actually trust those billinares, then you’re the one who should be working at Jack In The Box.

        Even if you believe the NBA owners claims about how much money they lost last year, the players have already made givebacks that more than cover that supposed loss. But the owners still continue to push for more and more.

      • nelle - Oct 29, 2011 at 8:53 AM

        If you are referring to me texmex, ya have the wrong gender. numb blonde will do. 😉

  9. steevo2907 - Oct 28, 2011 at 8:19 PM


  10. nelle - Oct 28, 2011 at 8:55 PM

    Looks like a lot of owners are reading here. :-)

  11. charger383 - Oct 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM

    NBA is not what it used to be. I have not watched a whole game in years.
    Used to be a big fan, now I hope it falls apart. Failure would give both sides what
    they deserve.
    Only people I feel sorry for are the people who work at the games.

  12. btldriver - Oct 28, 2011 at 9:12 PM

    Maybe the NBA could do like the NFL and use replacement players. This way at least those who rely on the season for employment can still make some money.

    • descendency - Oct 28, 2011 at 10:06 PM

      It’s not a strike.

  13. philtration - Oct 28, 2011 at 10:04 PM

    If they kill this season then do the same to them next year.
    Don’t go to or watch any games.
    Don’t but any NBA merchandise.
    Watch the NFL and say to hell with them.
    Let them preside over an empty arena and struggle to sell advertising on the televised games.

    • david8726 - Oct 29, 2011 at 3:48 AM

      Why would I do that?

      I like basketball.

      Don’t you?

      • berbes - Oct 29, 2011 at 2:40 PM

        they count on tools like you. find another hobby to waste 2 hours.

  14. berbes - Oct 28, 2011 at 10:50 PM

    ~ i hate the billionaire owners
    ~ i hate the millionaire players
    ~ my pity is for the bartenders & waitresses in the empty bars & restaurants across the street from the empty courts

  15. mjschriner - Oct 29, 2011 at 12:33 AM

    I like the replacement player idea. Imagine a motivated group of players who want to perform for the fans without being paid grotesque money. Sounds like an idea the headliners might want to get acquainted with sooner than later.

    • nelle - Oct 29, 2011 at 10:44 AM

      So you favour people taking your job as well?

    • snoopy2014 - Oct 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM

      Great idea. I can’t wait for that Motivated Smush Parker and Motivated James Augustine pick and roll. If you squint and smoke some weed before the game, it’ll almost look like Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin. Paying $100 to see Motivated NBA washouts and rejects? I’m getting excited already.

  16. lphboston - Oct 29, 2011 at 12:00 PM

    I like the idea of starting over.

    Tell the players there’s a new deal — you all get 200K a year, you all fly charter, you eat for free in 5-star restaurants and you stay in 5-star hotels. You get extra money depending how far your team goes in the playoffs.

    Your contract is guaranteed, but for no more than the year you’re playing, plus the next.

    You have to stay after each game to meet with fans and sign autographs for free and you have to represent the team for free at community functions. If you don’t, you will be docked a day’s pay.

    You have one mulligan for drugs/DUI/arrest etc. On your second one, you will be banned from the league.

    Take it or leave it. You want to go play in some Czech Republic hellhole and make more money, go play in some Czech Republic hellhole.

    It’s amazing that so many players grow up in poverty but once they reach the show, they become arrogan and entitled.

  17. Robert - Oct 29, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    NBA= No Basketball League-Nothing But Ass….

    No longer a fan.

  18. Robert - Oct 29, 2011 at 1:40 PM

    NBA=No Basketball Allowed

  19. ilovefoolsball - Oct 30, 2011 at 1:11 AM

    Personally I hope they do lower these ridiculous NBA player salaries.

    The NFL went through it’s hell this past summer and missed one preseason game because the players eventually figured out that they had to back off a little, and I think that NFL players have a hell of a lot more to complain about than basketball players.

    Hopefully they will stay locked out at least until they miss almost half the season, that would be a good thing for America, and these spoiled NBA athletes.

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