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	<title>Comments on: Tyson Chandler says owners are negotiating like “dictators”</title>
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		<title>By: Kurt Helin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt Helin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, BRI is not in addition to salaries. If the players get 50 percent or 57 percent or whatever of BRI, then their salaries will combine to come to exactly that percentage. To make sure that happens, a percentage of every NBA check is held back (last time 8 percent of every check off the top) and when the season ends and the books are figured out, the players get back enough of that 8 percent to make it the exact BRI split. Last season they got the entire 8 percent back, other years they got none back. But the BRI split is salaries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, BRI is not in addition to salaries. If the players get 50 percent or 57 percent or whatever of BRI, then their salaries will combine to come to exactly that percentage. To make sure that happens, a percentage of every NBA check is held back (last time 8 percent of every check off the top) and when the season ends and the books are figured out, the players get back enough of that 8 percent to make it the exact BRI split. Last season they got the entire 8 percent back, other years they got none back. But the BRI split is salaries.</p>
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		<title>By: skids003</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If these knuckleheads were negotiating a peace treaty to end World War II, we&#039;d still be fighting it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these knuckleheads were negotiating a peace treaty to end World War II, we&#8217;d still be fighting it.</p>
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		<title>By: anhdazman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let basketball implode.  The stupid owners own fault for over spending millions of over rated stars.  Now they want to low ball the players.  When you&#039;ve &quot;shown the money&quot; to the players all these years, it&#039;s a lot harder to cut back.  
Both sides are too stubborn and stupid to know that they&#039;re only hurting themselves.
BTW, the US is in a recession and on a brink of another, so you guys crying over millions and billions aren&#039;t going to get any sympathy from the normal American public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let basketball implode.  The stupid owners own fault for over spending millions of over rated stars.  Now they want to low ball the players.  When you&#8217;ve &#8220;shown the money&#8221; to the players all these years, it&#8217;s a lot harder to cut back.<br />
Both sides are too stubborn and stupid to know that they&#8217;re only hurting themselves.<br />
BTW, the US is in a recession and on a brink of another, so you guys crying over millions and billions aren&#8217;t going to get any sympathy from the normal American public.</p>
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		<title>By: kilo0986</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kilo0986]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just re-sign with the mavs please. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just re-sign with the mavs please. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: redbaronx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[redbaronx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The pathetic thing about all of this is that the players contracts don&#039;t change. The BRI is on top of whatever they make in separate checks. 50/50 after expenses sounds more than fair to me. 

1) Players need to accept 50/50 after expenses
2) Owners need to lower ticket prices so that average Americans can attend games
3) The system needs to allow for more player movement
4) They should put out a BIG apology for all fans who patronize their lifestyles by forking over their hard earned money!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pathetic thing about all of this is that the players contracts don&#8217;t change. The BRI is on top of whatever they make in separate checks. 50/50 after expenses sounds more than fair to me. </p>
<p>1) Players need to accept 50/50 after expenses<br />
2) Owners need to lower ticket prices so that average Americans can attend games<br />
3) The system needs to allow for more player movement<br />
4) They should put out a BIG apology for all fans who patronize their lifestyles by forking over their hard earned money!</p>
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		<title>By: texmex2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Chris in another post said it best, there is no longer a CBA, the lastone ran its course, it&#039;s over!

“they are not going any higher than 50/50 (and the owners want to take more off the top before that split).”
 
So doesn’t this essentially mean that the owners are offering a 50/50 split of profits? They take money off the top for expenses, which they pay to the players for benefits, etc, plus for renting arenas, paying for salaries of other people in the organization, paying in advance for supplies, etc, etc, etc. And then once all the expenses are cleared, they split the profits 50/50 with the employees. And that is unfair how? 

So basically, the players want 52.5% of the GROSS REVENUES that come into the NBA. Over half. Of all monies that come in, right? To me, that is ridiculous.
 
“In the last labor deal, the players got a whopping 57 percent. They have offered to come down to 52.5 percent”
 
There is no CBA!!! So the players aren’t giving anything back to the owners. There is no CBA. There is no CBA. There is no CBA. The owners started current negotiations at 43/57 split, hard cap and no guaranteed contracts. They are now at 50/50 no hard cap and guaranteed contracts still being used. Players are relying too much on the last CBA, which is no longer relevant to the conversation. Until they forget about the last CBA, there will be no deal. Maybe it takes a year off for the players to forget the last CBA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chris in another post said it best, there is no longer a CBA, the lastone ran its course, it&#8217;s over!</p>
<p>“they are not going any higher than 50/50 (and the owners want to take more off the top before that split).”</p>
<p>So doesn’t this essentially mean that the owners are offering a 50/50 split of profits? They take money off the top for expenses, which they pay to the players for benefits, etc, plus for renting arenas, paying for salaries of other people in the organization, paying in advance for supplies, etc, etc, etc. And then once all the expenses are cleared, they split the profits 50/50 with the employees. And that is unfair how? </p>
<p>So basically, the players want 52.5% of the GROSS REVENUES that come into the NBA. Over half. Of all monies that come in, right? To me, that is ridiculous.</p>
<p>“In the last labor deal, the players got a whopping 57 percent. They have offered to come down to 52.5 percent”</p>
<p>There is no CBA!!! So the players aren’t giving anything back to the owners. There is no CBA. There is no CBA. There is no CBA. The owners started current negotiations at 43/57 split, hard cap and no guaranteed contracts. They are now at 50/50 no hard cap and guaranteed contracts still being used. Players are relying too much on the last CBA, which is no longer relevant to the conversation. Until they forget about the last CBA, there will be no deal. Maybe it takes a year off for the players to forget the last CBA.</p>
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		<title>By: fouldwimmerlaik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fouldwimmerlaik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you know for certain that you are right?  When Tyson Chandler says you are wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know for certain that you are right?  When Tyson Chandler says you are wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: thekingdave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thekingdave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re employees, not partners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re employees, not partners.</p>
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