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Sunday will be the day if full NBA season to be saved

Oct 6, 2011, 11:23 AM EDT

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David Stern set the deadline — if there is no handshake deal between NBA owners and players by Monday, the league will cancel the first two weeks of the regular season.

The two sides are playing a game of chicken. But if the season is to be saved, it has to happen Sunday.

After talks broke of on Tuesday the sides did not meet Wednesday and there are no meetings scheduled for Thursday. That makes it a tight timeline, explains Chris Broussard at ESPN.

Meanwhile, there are no talks planned for Thursday, and several of the principals are expected to observe the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur Friday and Saturday. That means Sunday could be the only day left to save the Nov. 1 start of the regular season…

The talks could go into Monday, but they would almost certainly have to start before then.

As we noted before, in terms of pure numbers the two sides are pretty close (well, if you consider $80 million a season and more than $500 million over the course of the deal “close”). The owners informally proposed the “concept” of a 50/50 split of revenue, the players informally said no lower than 52 percent (they got 57 percent in the last labor deal).

They could split the difference, but challenge is for Stern and union head Billy Hunter to convince the hard liners on both sides to give a little more to get a deal done. Then they have to attach the economic numbers to a salary cap system that both sides can live with. It’s a lot to do and not a lot of time to do it.

Still, they are close; Hunter described them as being on the three yard line. But any coach will tell you those last three yards are the hardest to get on the entire field.

  1. philosofly - Oct 6, 2011 at 1:25 PM

    Make no mistake about it, the owners and the Dictator Stern are definitely doing irreversible damage to the NBA. In fact, in case you haven’t noticed the players already have small leagues and tournaments in the works. What’s to stop them from forming 6 or 8 permanent teams in a new league? This is basketball we’re talking about, you need shorts, shirts, two hoops and a ball. You don’t need equip for every player, this is the EASIEST SPORT TO START A NEW LEAGUE!! Mark my words, WE WANT TO SEE THE PLAYERS PLAY AND WE DON’T CARE FOR WHO!

    The players deserve more money here and damn straight they should fight for it! If they don’t get it, and get it soon, they have enough money and star power (Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Melo, Kobe, D.Rose, Rondo, Blake Griffin, CP3, KG, Westbrook, Wade, Bosh, Amare, I think you get my point) to start a league that everybody WILL care about.

    • hail2tharedskins - Oct 6, 2011 at 2:17 PM

      philosofly,

      You are woefully misinformed of what it would take to start a new league! In a post a couple months back I outlined a lot of pitfalls that would prevent the players from starting a new league (if you can find it you might want to read it). Other than that I will ask you a simple question about the leagues and tournaments the players are currently participating in, who much money have players made off them to date? Its one thing to start a league or host a game, its an entirely different thing to make a business out of it and do it profitabily. Any new league would struggle to even turn a profit yet alone earn players the millions they are acustom to without even having to worry marketing the game. And while I’m on marketing, with the decreased exposure a new league would have the apparel companies that give the big name players those huge endorsement deals would also vanish.

      • philosofly - Oct 6, 2011 at 3:26 PM

        There are two kinds of people in this world, those who come up with all the reasons why you “can’t do something” and those who just do. Not too many businesses turn profits in their first year. You are ignorant if you underestimate the potential of the main street business model.

        Starting a new league is no different than starting any other business in this country. You can come up with all the reasons you can think of on paper but at the end of the day when there is a product people want, they buy it. Period. When you’re talking about the stars of basketball, that is a product people will pay to see. You start small, you work your way up, you start selling out small gyms and go from there.

        But go on, it’s people like you who are content with working for somebody else your whole life that never see the potential in a simple idea. After all, how do you think the NBA was started?

  2. hail2tharedskins - Oct 6, 2011 at 4:09 PM

    philosofly,

    That is a great philosophical response. However, I notice you failed to answer the one question I posed to you… How much many have NBA players made to date playing those pick-up league games and tournaments?

    And yes starting a new pro sports league is a lot different than starting any other business in this country… it cost a LOT more capital to start a new sports league than it does to start a typical business! Not only does it require a lot of up front capital, you are proposing that individuals that usually play the game to earn income start to spend money in order to play the game (while at the same time losing the income they are accustom to you pay their current bills). And thats before we even get involved with the real obsticles to starting a successful new league. (By the way if starting a new sports league is so easy why is it that you suppose that no one has bothered in the last 20+ years? Or is it that you just think you are the only one smart enough to think of doing it? Well, since you and many other people have proposed this easy solution why is that you feel that the players haven’t jumped on it and started putting together their own league???)

    And while you are taking shots at me, I should inform you that you got that wrong as well. I do not work for somebody else, I am an entrepreneur. However part of being a successful entrepreneur is doing your do dilligence on opportunities before investing your money. I suggest you do you a little more research on what it would take to start another successful basketball league and you will quickly understand why your suggestion is not viable! Once again a lot of NBA players have become entrepreneurs and invested in and started businesses on their own, there is a reason why none have tried to start a new basketball league. My guess is that you actually the one content working for somebody else while proposing ideas that others should do, because you don’t seem to posess any of the analytical knowledege that most entrepreurs posess. I will leave you with this bit of information, any entrepreneur/investor will always look at the reasons why they shouldn’t do something (it doesn’t mean they won’t) but if they don’t anticipate and plan for the pitfalls they are sure to fall in them – by the way that is what is typically referred to as a SWOT analysis.

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