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NBA 2K12 does Nowitzki wrong, doesn’t list him with elite

Sep 27, 2011, 7:26 PM EDT

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The NBA 2K12 rankings are not player rankings. Their not designed to be that, they are supposed to be a measure the strengths and weaknesses of a player against what is expected out of his position.

But they become defacto player rankings in the minds of the public — and they did Dirk Nowitzki wrong.

In some leaked ratings numbers of NBA 2K12 at Dime Magazine, Nowitzki gets an 85. Not bad, certainly. All-Star level. But LeBron James got a 98 (out of 100), Dwyane Wade a 96, Kobe Bryant a 94 (is he still a 94?), Dwight Howard a 93, Kevin Durant and Derrick Rose a 92. The elite players are all over 90.

Don’t you put Nowitzki in that group of elite players?

Here are the people we know with a higher rating the big German: Carmelo Anthony (91), Deron Williams (90), Amar’e Stoudemire (88), Russell Westbrook (88) and Pau Gasol (86). You think all of them are better than Nowitzki?

Nowitzki is clearly as hard for video game designers to define as he is for old school NBA scouts. Nowitzki is a power forward who plays more like a small forward, but without being as quick. Yet, his ability to get to his spots and hit a wide variety of shots makes him one of the league’s best. He has to be ranked as such.

In maybe as big an oddity, Atlanta’s Josh Smith gets an 84 and Al Horford has an 80. Al Horford has the same score as Wilson Chandler. Horford remains the Rodney Dangerfield of the NBA.

The player with the lowest rating? Looks like Jason Collins with 45, reports the Basketball Jones. I’m not really going to argue that one.

  1. edmazeing1 - Sep 27, 2011 at 7:35 PM

    Ill put Dirk over gasol & deron. If your jason collins do u even support this game, by giving them $63 & see your the worst player on the game!!!

  2. david8726 - Sep 27, 2011 at 11:18 PM

    My guess is that Dirk loses points because, as incredibly awesome as he is at offense (maybe the best scorer in the league), he’s pretty mediocre on defense.

    With that being said…. How the hell is Carmelo Anthony ranked higher than him? That’s a guy who is just as bad defensively at his position, and he’s less efficient on offense too. Out of all the guys listed here, Carmelo seems like the most over-ranked player (that goes hand in hand with out how he’s overrated in the real NBA I guess).

    Pau Gasol ahead of Dirk? No. Just no.

    It also seems like a bit of a joke that Derrick Rose is rated just as highly as Kevin Durant (no matter how much you like Rose, you’re lying to yourself if you think he’s as good as KD).

    Kobe Bryant is ranked ahead of Dwight at this point? Ugh.

    Whatever. It’s just a video game.

  3. adiddie - Sep 28, 2011 at 1:31 AM

    Mediocre d or not, he took over in the finals. Should be ahead of a bunch of those peeps! Wonder what they’ll grade Rubio as???

  4. jmclarkent - Sep 28, 2011 at 7:54 AM

    The Online roster update feature usually balances this sort of thing out. If we have a preseason, he should be calibrated by the time it’s over.

  5. armdragon - Sep 28, 2011 at 11:24 AM

    Dirk has ratings of 99 in close and mid shooting. As long as he plays like the real thing, I don’t care what his overall is.

  6. denverhoopdreams - Sep 28, 2011 at 12:02 PM

    And trust me when I say, even though it’s scaled I have no idea how Carmelo is so high. Probably some developer that’s a Knicks fan that didn’t watch anything but the 20+ games he played in a NY Jersey.

    • denverhoopdreams - Sep 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM

      I hope everyone is aware that the overall score is a scaled system.

      For example – if he is average on defense, and elite on offense – he’ll be low 90′s high 80′s. They may have a few of his defensive stats lower than they should be because in the aspect of the game I’d say he could easily be a 90-91.

      Since he’s slow, his speed probably brought his overall down quite a bit too. I can guarantee you his Shot’s are all in the upper 90′s. As well as his ball handling. I’m sure his passing is really mediocre, and his blocking as well. His rebounds will be pretty high up there, and his on ball defense will as well.

      I just think you guys are overlooking the way that they scale it. He’ll still be an offensive mastermind.

      – Why don’t some of my posts show up. I posted this before that.

      • entropy13 - Sep 30, 2011 at 10:13 AM

        I don’t know what you’re talking about there. Of course Dirk’s “slow” in a sense, but considering that he’s a 7-footer, that’s a given. Yet he’s faster than any other 7-footer out there. He drives to the hoop like he’s a SF. He’s a 7-footer that’s usually finishing up fastbreaks.

        Passing is really mediocre? How can you explain then the fact that him and Pau are the only big men that average more than 2.5 APG?

        His on ball defense did improve, and it is good, but “pretty high up there”? Are you sure you’re talking about Dirk?

        “I just think you guys are overlooking the way that they scale it.”

        That’s never really forgotten. What’s really unforgivable is that, like the other comments have already mentioned, a similarly offensive-minded player like ‘Melo is higher than him. And it’s not like ‘Melo is a significantly better defender and rebounder.

        Another one would be another player of the Knicks: Stoudemire. He’s the most overrated big man right now. Doesn’t usually use his size and strength to his advantage. He averaged almost the same RPG (8.2) as Chris Bosh (8.3), who’s a supposed “soft player” FFS.

      • entropy13 - Sep 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM

        “Passing is really mediocre? How can you explain then the fact that him and Pau are the only big men that average more than 2.5 APG?”

        Big men meaning 7-footers. If we use the broader meaning it would actually include guys like Odom and Durant since they’re still technically “big men” due to their height.

  7. zrbk - Sep 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

    Where’s CP3?

  8. icelovinbrotha215 - Oct 2, 2011 at 9:33 PM


  9. mikeewright7 - Nov 4, 2011 at 8:39 PM

    I played the game, everybody on there pump fakes like Kobe, Rondo and the Dream, unrealistic…but i loved the game i just think ….wait i just know there’s no way everybody kobe post moves like the dream and kobe….and Melo is very over rated but he’s still top3 best offensive players in the league…Kobe is number #1, Wade/Durant might be number #2…

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