Comments on: Report: Owners of Cavs, Suns killed potential labor deal

By: ljl2

ljl2 — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:48:29 +0000

It wasn’t the issue of it being written, its common courtesy you don’t string your own team along and then kill them. You can’t have a plan B when everyone else is saying they are waiting to sign until they find out what LeBron does. It’s not about the fact he left, most of us in the area expected it. It was the way of it. If you had a team that went through it, you might understand, but outside of Orlando with Shaq (who didn’t even embarrass them in such a way), no one can even begin to understand the ridiculousness of it. This wasn’t even my point. My point was that you can’t blame Gilbert for trying to put people around LeBron and everyone in the media saying he was doing a good job (for two straight years) and then all of a sudden its his fault LeBron left? The complete foolishness of that argument was my point…

But, back to the topic, it seems that the report seemed to miss a huge part of what was actually said…

“It as this time, being what I would consider to be an NBA blogger that I will choose to assume that the Cavaliers’ owner is calling out Simmons and Simmons alone. After all, roughly one week before the hullabaloo insued on the major blogwaves, WFNY reported a Chris Mannix soundbite from Cleveland’s very own 92.3 The Fan; Gilbert was grouped in with Washington’s Ted Leonsis, Phoenix’ Robert Sarver and Boston’s Wyc Grousbeck. While there is considerable potential to point out the obvious Simmons-Grousbeck connection (which too can be categorized as “sad and pathetic”), it is also worth pointing out the piece penned by TrueHoop’s Henry Abbott – also an ESPN property – that listed Gilbert, Leonsis, Sarver and Grousbeck in with Charlotte’s Michael Jordan, Dallas’ Mark Cuban, Denver’s Stan Kroenke, Detroit’s Tom Gores, Memphis’ Michael Heisley, Milwaukee’s Herb Kohl, Philly’s Josh Harris, Portland’s Paul Allen, Sacremento’s tandem of Joe and Gavin Maloof, San Antonio’s Peter Holt, Toronto’s Larry Tanenbaum and Utah’s Greg Miller. Not exactly a one-or-two-man band of hard-nosed negotiating and anchor dragging.” – http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2011/09/dan-gilbert-fires-back-at-the-sports-guy-kind-of/

Looks like it wasn’t just Gilbert and Sarver, but everyone BUT Buss and Dolan.

By: jayrandle

jayrandle — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:11:34 +0000

So when is it written that a player must…must tell his team that he decide to move on.
Think about it…the whole season everybody knew he was about to be free agent. On July 1, 2010 the whole world knew. It is the owner responsiblity to have a plan b…not Lebron fault that he did not prepare for the possibility for his depature.

Did David Gerrad get notice he will be cut by the Jaguars a few days before opening day of the NFL season…but nobody complains about the owners.

Like it or not Lebron James is a grown man and he played his 7 year contract…he did not force a sudden trade halfway during his contract. A free agent is exactly that…A free agent.
And the best we can do is say ‘He did not call the Cavs’…Really? Come on…

By: ljl2

ljl2 — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:56:27 +0000

who would want to play for an owner willing to spend to compete (when the nba’s system requires it). wanna know why gilbert was pissed? because lebron couldnt even give him a heads up and screwed the team during free agency. he was looking out for his other players (the guys lebron credited for his mvp awards and were called the deepest team before lebron blamed them for his leaving)

By: jayrandle

jayrandle — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:16:52 +0000

If I was a nba player I would never play for an owner such as Dan Gilbert and for the Cleveland Cavaliers. He has really shown his true colors since Lebron who had a right to leave as a free agent…left.
Who would want to play for him…when once you make him made…he lose all common sense and would do anything to even cancel an nba season.

By: twitter:Chapman_Jamie

twitter:Chapman_Jamie — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:46:59 +0000

Players = employees NOT partners… glad to see you guys censor like like PFT when people point out your errors too.

By: stayhigh_247

stayhigh_247 — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:51:24 +0000

this sit is gonna drag on until Dolan & Dr. Buss get close to missing that first payday of the season, then Dan Gilbert and friends get punched in the mouth, then Steve Javey tosses the ball up and game on!

By: danvoges

danvoges — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:24:01 +0000

if i could favorite comments, this would be top 5.

By: trbowman

trbowman — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:31:54 +0000

Also, the only thing “incorrect and fictional” is Stern’s denial of the report. lol.

By: trbowman

trbowman — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:31:02 +0000

I’m with the “hardline” owners. The NBA needs to have revenue sharing to help the small markets compete. Can’t blame these guys for looking out for their teams bets interests. If achieving that goal means sacrificing some games…..I’m not gonna lie, i’m ok with that.

By: cookie2117

cookie2117 — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:21:25 +0000

Dan Gilbert sux

By: ghult

ghult — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:19:08 +0000

The billionaires versus the millionaires. Who cares. Cancel the season and no one makes any money!

By: twitter:Chapman_Jamie

twitter:Chapman_Jamie — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:41:40 +0000

Just like with the NFL you media types don’t get it. The players are employees, not partners. Get it straight for once.

By: ljl2

ljl2 — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:32:12 +0000

If LeBron was still in Cleveland, Gilbert would still be hardline since he has had to overpay for players to put around LeBron since he refused to commit to the team with free agents. BUT, we don’t live in a hypothetical world where it matters what if LeBron was in Cleveland, what matters is that Cleveland is a smaller market and is in position with other small markets. Not to mention Gilbert was appointed to the board of governors of the NBA by other owners for a reason…to hold a position some others favored.

By: asublimeday

asublimeday — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:58:23 +0000

Umm… On the iPhone app the condensed headline ends at “killed”…

By: asublimeday

asublimeday — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:58:22 +0000

Umm… On the iPhone app the condensed headline ends at “killed”…