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	<title>Comments on: How a hard salary cap could hurt team play in the NBA</title>
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		<title>By: n2thaizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[n2thaizzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is where your arguement fails.  While the owners might OWN the teams, the owners and the players association ARE PARTNERS IN THIS BUSINESS.  This is why a deal cannot get approved without the players&#039; consent.  So if the players don&#039;t like it, yeah they go to Europe, but the league stays shut down and the owners are losing out also...

The problem with paying people based on numbers is numbers sometime lie.  Wanna know why Kobe leads the Lakers in scoring?  Because he gets the most attempts.  That&#039;s why Arenas led the Wizards in scoring, why Dirk leads the Mavs and so on.  In the NFL, the 5th string corner plays very few plays, and on some of those plays, the ball doesn&#039;t even come his way, so you can compare the 2.  When joe scrub comes on to the floor in NBA, you better believe the offense is going at him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is where your arguement fails.  While the owners might OWN the teams, the owners and the players association ARE PARTNERS IN THIS BUSINESS.  This is why a deal cannot get approved without the players&#8217; consent.  So if the players don&#8217;t like it, yeah they go to Europe, but the league stays shut down and the owners are losing out also&#8230;</p>
<p>The problem with paying people based on numbers is numbers sometime lie.  Wanna know why Kobe leads the Lakers in scoring?  Because he gets the most attempts.  That&#8217;s why Arenas led the Wizards in scoring, why Dirk leads the Mavs and so on.  In the NFL, the 5th string corner plays very few plays, and on some of those plays, the ball doesn&#8217;t even come his way, so you can compare the 2.  When joe scrub comes on to the floor in NBA, you better believe the offense is going at him.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Helin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt Helin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This kind of logic is not allowed in actual NBA player/owner negotiations. Otherwise they&#039;d reach a fair deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of logic is not allowed in actual NBA player/owner negotiations. Otherwise they&#8217;d reach a fair deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Helin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt Helin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are studies out there that show this, but the bottom line is scorers get paid in disproportionate levels. Points certainly matter, but guys who can just shoot get overpaid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are studies out there that show this, but the bottom line is scorers get paid in disproportionate levels. Points certainly matter, but guys who can just shoot get overpaid.</p>
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		<title>By: flionlion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flionlion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kurt this is getting ridiculous.  You and the players really need to open your eyes and face the facts....the NBA is broken and the owners who spent hundreds of millions to buy their teams are going to fix it.  If they want non-guaranteed deals to protect themselves then so be it because they OWN the teams.  If the players don&#039;t like it then go play in Europe forever.  At least the players have an option to play somewhere else unlike the NFL players.

Now to address your delusional post.

You honestly think the 5th string CB on a NFL team just jumps routes all day to pad his interception numbers in hope of landing a more secure contract?  Yeah...Belichick would really stand for that...or Phil Jackson for that matter.

Or maybe just maybe the guy tries to listen to what his coaches actually want and tries to do his job right....and....wait for it.....EARN a more secure deal.

Heck I think the cap would improve regular season games because guys like Jermaine Oneal would actually be motivated to play for once.

Give it up Kurt.....the old broken NBA is over with.....embrace parity and the new dynasties it will deliver.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt this is getting ridiculous.  You and the players really need to open your eyes and face the facts&#8230;.the NBA is broken and the owners who spent hundreds of millions to buy their teams are going to fix it.  If they want non-guaranteed deals to protect themselves then so be it because they OWN the teams.  If the players don&#8217;t like it then go play in Europe forever.  At least the players have an option to play somewhere else unlike the NFL players.</p>
<p>Now to address your delusional post.</p>
<p>You honestly think the 5th string CB on a NFL team just jumps routes all day to pad his interception numbers in hope of landing a more secure contract?  Yeah&#8230;Belichick would really stand for that&#8230;or Phil Jackson for that matter.</p>
<p>Or maybe just maybe the guy tries to listen to what his coaches actually want and tries to do his job right&#8230;.and&#8230;.wait for it&#8230;..EARN a more secure deal.</p>
<p>Heck I think the cap would improve regular season games because guys like Jermaine Oneal would actually be motivated to play for once.</p>
<p>Give it up Kurt&#8230;..the old broken NBA is over with&#8230;..embrace parity and the new dynasties it will deliver.</p>
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		<title>By: leearmon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leearmon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Kurt is dead on. Ask yourself why Gilbert Arenas is getting paid so much, then ask if its because his tenacious defense. Or why Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, Andray Blatche, Kevin Martin, Maggette, Monta Ellis etc. You think they get paid because of their Steve Nash type passing? Doubt it. Then ask yourself why guys who rebound well and play good team ball like Batum, Battier, Carl Landry and a list full of others get paid significantly less. NBA owners fall in love over guys who put up huge PPG numbers. Often times despite themselves and their franchise. So if thats the way you get big/guaranteed contracts what do you think the next season will look like?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Kurt is dead on. Ask yourself why Gilbert Arenas is getting paid so much, then ask if its because his tenacious defense. Or why Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, Andray Blatche, Kevin Martin, Maggette, Monta Ellis etc. You think they get paid because of their Steve Nash type passing? Doubt it. Then ask yourself why guys who rebound well and play good team ball like Batum, Battier, Carl Landry and a list full of others get paid significantly less. NBA owners fall in love over guys who put up huge PPG numbers. Often times despite themselves and their franchise. So if thats the way you get big/guaranteed contracts what do you think the next season will look like?</p>
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		<title>By: emerson12345</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[emerson12345]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kurt this would be a half way intelligent post if the only thing to do in the NBA is score.... if you think that’s how NBA owners dish out contracts you need to stop writing for a NBA page... might not be a bad idea anyways, since anyone that thinks Jermaine Oneal is a man to take ideas from needs a new job]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt this would be a half way intelligent post if the only thing to do in the NBA is score&#8230;. if you think that’s how NBA owners dish out contracts you need to stop writing for a NBA page&#8230; might not be a bad idea anyways, since anyone that thinks Jermaine Oneal is a man to take ideas from needs a new job</p>
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		<title>By: thenetsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thenetsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The answer is partial guarantees. Enough to provide a player with significant security, but also provide owners/GMs flexibility in staying under a hard cap &amp; tweaking rosters. 

What I would think is a fair compromise is contracts being guaranteed for the greater of a)100% of the remaining annual salary up to $2mil or b) 35% of the remaining annual salary. Low salaried players would have fully guaranteed deals, while owners have the ability to get out of albatross contracts, albeit at a significant price. The only players truly impacted are high priced, severely underachieving players. Owners/GMs will have to decide if they can get equivalent performance to their current player at less than 65% of his salary. The players in question typically have some talent, else they would have never earned that contract to begin with. They would likely be able to recoup a significant portion of that lost 65% on a subsequent deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer is partial guarantees. Enough to provide a player with significant security, but also provide owners/GMs flexibility in staying under a hard cap &amp; tweaking rosters. </p>
<p>What I would think is a fair compromise is contracts being guaranteed for the greater of a)100% of the remaining annual salary up to $2mil or b) 35% of the remaining annual salary. Low salaried players would have fully guaranteed deals, while owners have the ability to get out of albatross contracts, albeit at a significant price. The only players truly impacted are high priced, severely underachieving players. Owners/GMs will have to decide if they can get equivalent performance to their current player at less than 65% of his salary. The players in question typically have some talent, else they would have never earned that contract to begin with. They would likely be able to recoup a significant portion of that lost 65% on a subsequent deal.</p>
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		<title>By: thelucasjj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thelucasjj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stereotypes...Just becuase you are rocking out to Right Said Fred doesn&#039;t mean you are stuck in 90&#039;s. It just means you know good music when you hear it. Well that and mesh muscle shirts are where its at.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stereotypes&#8230;Just becuase you are rocking out to Right Said Fred doesn&#8217;t mean you are stuck in 90&#8242;s. It just means you know good music when you hear it. Well that and mesh muscle shirts are where its at.</p>
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