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	<title>Comments on: One thing the owners really want — to get out of bad deals</title>
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		<title>By: dysraw1</title>
		<link>http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/25/one-thing-the-owners-really-want-%e2%80%94-to-get-out-of-bad-deals/comment-page-1/#comment-52518</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You dont sign players like eddy currry long for fear of losing them.thats why there salary caps so u know your buget  and are able to stay within confines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dont sign players like eddy currry long for fear of losing them.thats why there salary caps so u know your buget  and are able to stay within confines.</p>
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		<title>By: dysraw1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dysraw1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You dont sign players like eddy currry long for fear of losing them.thats why there salary caps so u know your buget  and are able to stay within confines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dont sign players like eddy currry long for fear of losing them.thats why there salary caps so u know your buget  and are able to stay within confines.</p>
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		<title>By: thetooloftools</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetooloftools]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the owners want to play hardball, they will keep lowering the &quot;hard cap&quot; until players can&#039;t get those long term huge money deals anymore. I&#039;m quickly losing interest in the NBA. It really is turning into being all about the $.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the owners want to play hardball, they will keep lowering the &#8220;hard cap&#8221; until players can&#8217;t get those long term huge money deals anymore. I&#8217;m quickly losing interest in the NBA. It really is turning into being all about the $.</p>
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		<title>By: goforthanddie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goforthanddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess shorter contracts isn&#039;t an option, since it makes sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess shorter contracts isn&#8217;t an option, since it makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: marquisalexander</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marquisalexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may not like it, but a contract is a contract.  Owners complain when players hold out for more money (which, admittedly, isn&#039;t as much of an issue in the NBA.  No one MADE the owners sign them to max deals.  They decided to, foolishly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may not like it, but a contract is a contract.  Owners complain when players hold out for more money (which, admittedly, isn&#8217;t as much of an issue in the NBA.  No one MADE the owners sign them to max deals.  They decided to, foolishly.</p>
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		<title>By: mytthor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mytthor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They shouldn&#039;t have to give the money back, but it&#039;s not crazy to suggest that they shouldn&#039;t get all the money to not play that they would get to play, and that that percentage should be standardized. Do you have a job where if all of a sudden you&#039;re nowhere near as good at it as you were when you get hired, they have to pay you 100% of your salary for the next few years? I don&#039;t think limiting the millions you can receive while contributing nothing is that crazy. For injuries these guys can take out insurance policies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They shouldn&#8217;t have to give the money back, but it&#8217;s not crazy to suggest that they shouldn&#8217;t get all the money to not play that they would get to play, and that that percentage should be standardized. Do you have a job where if all of a sudden you&#8217;re nowhere near as good at it as you were when you get hired, they have to pay you 100% of your salary for the next few years? I don&#8217;t think limiting the millions you can receive while contributing nothing is that crazy. For injuries these guys can take out insurance policies.</p>
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		<title>By: marquisalexander</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marquisalexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In all honesty no one FORCED James Dolan to pay Eddy Curry, or Abe Polin to pay Gilbert Arenas they CHOSE to.  They could have allowed them to walk in free agency or even better, they could have allowed them to try to sell their services on the free market, fail, and then signed them to a better deal.

The small market and less profitable teams shouldn&#039;t be angry at the players, they should be angry at the large market owners.  Player cost is a FIXED PERCENTAGE at 57% (which is what owners wanted from the last Lockout)  The actual dollar amount keeps rising because teams like the Lakers make 3 Billion dollar Television deals but they don&#039;t have to share those profits with the other teams.  This is where it gets painful for the small market teams, the profit the Lakers make pushes the total amount of Basketball Related Revenue up making the smaller teams have to pay more even though they don&#039;t share in any of the profits.     Its like when you go to a restaurant with a bunch of people and you&#039;re going to split the check evenly, but you ordered  french fries while the others at the table order Steak and Shrimp and Lobster.  You don&#039;t get to eat their food, but you now share equally in the rising cost of the tab.

Honestly, before there is talk about the Eddy Currys, Reshard Lewises, and Gilbert Arenas of the world, the owners have to figure out how to share a larger piece of their pie with each other so they all can all enjoy the meal.  OR they can go to a baseball style system where contracts are negotiated pretty much between parties, there is no salary cap floor or ceiling and player contracts aren&#039;t tied to any revenues.  If the player negotiates a guaranteed contract, then its guaranteed, if the team negotiates buy outs in the later years then the team does that. And both sides can request insert Arbitration language in the deal so if they over or under perform the terms can be adjusted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all honesty no one FORCED James Dolan to pay Eddy Curry, or Abe Polin to pay Gilbert Arenas they CHOSE to.  They could have allowed them to walk in free agency or even better, they could have allowed them to try to sell their services on the free market, fail, and then signed them to a better deal.</p>
<p>The small market and less profitable teams shouldn&#8217;t be angry at the players, they should be angry at the large market owners.  Player cost is a FIXED PERCENTAGE at 57% (which is what owners wanted from the last Lockout)  The actual dollar amount keeps rising because teams like the Lakers make 3 Billion dollar Television deals but they don&#8217;t have to share those profits with the other teams.  This is where it gets painful for the small market teams, the profit the Lakers make pushes the total amount of Basketball Related Revenue up making the smaller teams have to pay more even though they don&#8217;t share in any of the profits.     Its like when you go to a restaurant with a bunch of people and you&#8217;re going to split the check evenly, but you ordered  french fries while the others at the table order Steak and Shrimp and Lobster.  You don&#8217;t get to eat their food, but you now share equally in the rising cost of the tab.</p>
<p>Honestly, before there is talk about the Eddy Currys, Reshard Lewises, and Gilbert Arenas of the world, the owners have to figure out how to share a larger piece of their pie with each other so they all can all enjoy the meal.  OR they can go to a baseball style system where contracts are negotiated pretty much between parties, there is no salary cap floor or ceiling and player contracts aren&#8217;t tied to any revenues.  If the player negotiates a guaranteed contract, then its guaranteed, if the team negotiates buy outs in the later years then the team does that. And both sides can request insert Arbitration language in the deal so if they over or under perform the terms can be adjusted.</p>
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		<title>By: dysraw1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dysraw1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The owners hire people to use their judgement to decide a players value. how can the player be at fault. Arenas, Lewis, were franchise type players until injury got in the way. so they should give the money back. yeah right]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The owners hire people to use their judgement to decide a players value. how can the player be at fault. Arenas, Lewis, were franchise type players until injury got in the way. so they should give the money back. yeah right</p>
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		<title>By: The Ball Index</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ball Index]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems like that will give a huge advantage to big market teams. Owners like Dolan will always have cash to spend and will have no problem essentially treating these contracts as if they are non-guaranteed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like that will give a huge advantage to big market teams. Owners like Dolan will always have cash to spend and will have no problem essentially treating these contracts as if they are non-guaranteed</p>
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