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Ray Allen calls lockout an “almost embarrassing”

Jul 7, 2011, 8:12 AM EDT

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Note to Ray Allen, take the almost out of your quote and you are spot on.

In the end, the lockout is embarrassing, which is almost what he told CSN New England.

“I look at Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Dr. J, and . . . the money we make, not only us as players but as owners, the money that’s in the loop is so outstanding it’s almost embarrassing that we can make this type of money and we still haggle over what we haggle over.

“It’s important that the game is at an all-time high, and those players in the [1970s] and 80s that generation, they built us to this point that we can afford the salaries that we all afford. We just have to always remember that we have to take the game to the next level, we gotta know that this is bigger than us, and we gotta make sure the game continues to grow.”

Taking the game to the next level is not the same as making sure player salaries stay astronomical. Everyone is going to have to compromise here. Everyone is going to have to give up something — probably more than they want.

It is about the game, I hope someone remembers that.

  1. khandor - Jul 7, 2011 at 8:32 AM

    Kudos to Ray Allen for making these remarks, but … IMO, it is the owners who will have to remember first that the game is about the [#1] players, [#2] the coaches, [#3] the fans, and not [#-inconsequential] themselves, or [#-inconsequential] their profit-margins. The owners of NBA teams are billionaires … who can afford to absorb huge losses on an annual, given the increased long term value of their investment. The players and the coaches are the core product here, not the owners’ bottom-line.

  2. tashkalucy - Jul 7, 2011 at 8:59 AM

    Sure, great remarks.

    Now let’s see the payers union chip in a and set up a fund to pay medical bills for those ex-players that have little or no money.

    Not in this lifetime.

    This reminds me of when Lebron kept saying how humble he was. For 3 days he told every microphone and camera how humble he was – and he put on an “I’m so humble” look. Then he took out his teammates to party till 5am. That night they had a playoff game against the Celtics. When season ticket holders arrived an hour before tipoff and asked the ushers how things were looking for the Cavs. The ushers told them that the players were too hung over to play. They lost, of course.

    I don’t believe ANYTHING an NBA or MLB player says. “I have to do what’s best for my family” when walking out on fans and organizations that catered to them gets old after seeing it for 30-40 years. They do not live in the real world, they are not regular people. They say stuff that sounds real nice, but their actions don’t go along with their words. If they give 2% of their salary to a charity that they write off their taxes, people are falling all over themselves saying how nice these guys are. I’m convinced that most of the people I know – including myself – give a higher percentage of their income to charity then any of these players do, and we don’t make TV commercials about it.

    And I’m not too sure about the NFL players.

    • khandor - Jul 7, 2011 at 12:17 PM

      Do you think that the billionaire owners of these teams live in the real world, in a way that the players do not?

    • mytthor - Jul 7, 2011 at 12:31 PM

      You mean the real world where someone offers you a large contract and you turn it down because it’s too big? The real world where people are selfless and give all their money to charity? The real world where 25 year olds don’t do stupid stuff like drinking all night and then going in to work?

      I think that your opinion of how people act in the so-called “real world” shows you don’t live in it.

      • khandor - Jul 7, 2011 at 2:35 PM


        It would be extremely interesting to see what “tashkalucy’s version of the ‘real world'” actually looks like.

        It’s the players who drive the business end of this enterprise and the nefarious group of owners who have decided to impose a lockout … in a fruitless effort to control their own over-indulgences and poor judgments, in spite of their billionaire status.

      • tashkalucy - Jul 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM

        Two immature comments that explain why the US is no longer the world power it once was.

        First of, if you think all NBA owners are billionaires then it’s no wonder you fall for this red herring stuff.

        And as far as the money goes….it’s not the relevant issue. What is at issue is whether all team have a fair chance to compete. And whether fans an all markets get to keep their stars after years of supporting their team when it had none.

        The real world is where people work hard and give back. These kids in the modern NBA play in spurts during the season waiting for the playoffs to begin. They all say they want to win a championship, but few play defense and even when they do it is not for a full game. They all want to win but doing things like setting picks for a teammate as opposed to getting their stats don’t happen for well over 70% of the players in the league. The fundamentals played today in the NBA are simply a joke.

        It is a part of the moron generation (who were trained by Rush Limbaugh) to take something someone said, exaggerate it, and then attribute the exaggeration to them in a putdown manner. Everyone I know gives to charity and volunteers some time for causes. Apparently mytthor, that is as unthinkable to you as setting picks is to NBA all-stars. And as for “The real world where 25 year olds don’t do stupid stuff like drinking all night and then going in to work? – maybe in your world. I’ve never seen it. most people I know of have never seen it. mytthor, maybe you ought to figure out how to get out from working the drive-in window. learning something might be a good place to start.

  3. blueintown - Jul 7, 2011 at 9:02 AM

    blueintown calls this headline a “grammatical disaster”

    • ac0117 - Jul 7, 2011 at 10:04 AM

      how about an “grammatical disaster”

    • jmessinger - Jul 7, 2011 at 10:24 AM

      It’s almost as embarrassing as using embarrassing as a noun.

  4. chargerdillon - Jul 7, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    You’re right the lockout is almost embarrassing. But you know what should be more embarrassing paying guys like Gilbert Arenas millions of dollars to play basketball when he’s so stupid he’ll bring in a gun over a card game with a fellow player.

    Or how about all the bling and expensive cars players spend money on that they dont need. Nobody is going to defend basketball players who dont live within their means.

    NBA players making as much as they do and thinking its not enough, thats embarrassing.

    • blueintown - Jul 7, 2011 at 3:13 PM

      The desire for greater income isn’t unique to basketball players. If someone makes eight dollars an hour, they desire to make ten an hour, and will achieve that goal by any means necessary. Yes, we’re talking about much larger numbers here, but the market is set by the people willing to pay $500 a pop to sit courtside everynight, and by people tuning into national broadcasts by the millions. Is it ridiculous that people make $100 to put a ball through a hoop? Yeah, probably–but not apparently not ridiculous enough to make people stop spending copious amounts of money on the players behalf.

      • blueintown - Jul 7, 2011 at 3:59 PM

        Sidenote: What I meant to say was $100M, not $100. $100 to put a ball through a hoop actually seems quite reasonable.

  5. jkmanning18 - Jul 7, 2011 at 12:37 PM

    I’ve had enough of these grammatical errors. Time to form the Grammar Nazi

    • tashkalucy - Jul 7, 2011 at 4:35 PM

      You missed the period (“.”) after the word “Nazi”.

      • mturk21 - Jul 7, 2011 at 7:05 PM

        And the period goes inside the quotes, so it should be “Nazi.”

        (Odd but true.)

  6. dysraw1 - Jul 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM

    greed is a terrible thing on behalf of both parties i mean how much more do you need.1 question if everybody is being so charitable why are so many people still hungry & homeless

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