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Looking for big draft day trade? Watch Andre Iguodala.

Jun 20, 2011, 10:46 AM EDT

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Andre Iguodala trade rumors have been flying around everywhere since the season ended, with the Clippers (Chris Kaman plus parts) leading the long parade of suitors.

Those efforts to trade Iggy are heating up and he could be moved on or before draft day, according to Alex Kennedy at Hoopsworld.

Meanwhile, Philadelphia wants to move forward with their plans and doesn’t want their drama with Iguodala to drag out during the lengthy labor talks, which will keep teams from trading players. A deal appears inevitable at this point, with sources close to Iguodala confirming that he’s open to a trade and doesn’t expect to be back in Philadelphia next season. Kaman gives them the size that they’re looking for in a trade, but he’s also an expiring contract after next season. Sources close to the situation have said that the Sixers don’t want to swap Iguodala for another player with a lengthy contract so the fact that Kaman only has one-year, $12.2 million remaining on his deal is attractive to Philadelphia.

Other teams, including the Orlando Magic and Golden State Warriors, have called the 76ers, but they’re not able to offer the size or financial flexibility that the Clippers can with Kaman.

Iguodala has said he would like to play for the Clippers, which makes a lot of sense because he is exactly what that team needs to become dangerous. What the Clippers lack is a guy who can create his own shot from the wing and be a good perimeter defender, and Iggy is very good at both.

The Sixers will want sweeteners to make that deal work (PG Eric Bledsoe?). But whether it is the Clippers or another deal still under wraps with another team, keep watching Iguodala, he may well be the biggest name moved on draft night.

  1. barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    There has to be something more out there then Monta Ellis and Chris Kaman. Would much rather see the Sixers add more young pieces through the draft then swap contract for contract.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 20, 2011 at 11:00 AM

      Did you not read the article? They don’t want to swap “contract for contract”. They want to get back a contract that is expiring to help free themselves out of the salary cap quandary they are in.

      • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 11:21 AM

        If they trade for Kaman its contract for contract…if they trade for Ellis its contract for contract…doesn’t matter what they don’t want to do if they go with any of the above trades that is what they are doing. Or did you not read the article lol.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 20, 2011 at 11:26 AM

        Kaman has an expiring contract at the end of next season….so it is not contract for contract. In the NBA, the salaries of the players being traded have to match up to a certain degree. If one of the teams has salary cap space, then they could eat a larger contract player. Lets say Iggy makes around 14 million per season. You could not trade him for a draft pick unless the other team has the space to eat the difference between the contracts.

      • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 11:31 AM

        If Iggy gets trade for Kaman its contract for contract bro…you can try and spin it any way you want but its contract for contract.

        Without knowing what the new CBA is going to be trading Iggy for a contract that could ultimately only be cap space and not know what the cap rules will even be is a TERRIBLE move.

      • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 11:35 AM

        I think I understand the trade process…again I repeat…if the Sixers trade Iggy for Monta Ellis and bubble gum wrappers with no other teams involved its CONTRACT FOR CONTRACT….

        If they trade for Chris Kaman and an Eric Bledsoe throw in…ITS CONTRACT FOR CONTRACT….Player for Player….

        if they stick to their guns and ask for more that is different but to only end up with those two players and nothing else substantial your better off holding onto Iggy.

        Even if hes going to miss foul line jumper after foul line jumper after foul line jumper lol.

        Trust me I am a 25 year Sixers fans…I know all about bad trades.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 20, 2011 at 12:16 PM

        Kaman’s contract expires at the end of next season. Iggy at the end of 2014. Kaman at 12.2 million, Iggy at 15 million. How is that contract for contract?

      • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 2:08 PM

        What point of an even up trade player for player don’t you understand. If Iggy and Kamans deal were not even or within range do you think they would be getting talked about in trades for each.,.NO! Why because there contracts match up…lmao wtf!

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 20, 2011 at 4:48 PM

        The length of the contracts is the key difference. What part of that do YOU not understand? Kaman’s contract is two years shorter. It gives them greater financial flexibility down the road to possibly sign a star. It isn’t rocket science. Stop replying with nonsense to try to prove you are right. Everybody on here knows that you are wrong. It is cool. Just admit it and move on. You say you have been a Sixer fan for 25 years. I don’t believe that at all. Be honest, are you some 14 year old kid? Because the nonsense you are spewing is ridiculous. I would understand if you are a kid, but if you are a grown man then I just feel sorry for you.

      • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 5:19 PM

        Financial flexibility for what? I love you idiots on here with your short term thinking. The Sixers are comitted to well over 60 million in contracts right with a new CBA coming this fall.

        So if you trade Iggy for Kamans contract, and the new CBA lowers the cap to under 60 million which is being proposed and your already tied to over that where is your flexibility.

        Do some homework.

        Feel sorry lol it’s a message board lol you cyber tough guys trying to prove manhood through a post are idiots lol.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 20, 2011 at 9:13 PM

        The point is then you wouldn’t be tied down for the extra two years. Your reasoning is mind boggling.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 PM

        Hey moderator,
        You take down my comment in which I call him a clown but you leave he calls people morons and you let that slide. No problem with having my comment taken down, but show some consistency.

  2. drmonkeyarmy - Jun 20, 2011 at 10:58 AM

    Iggy might be able to create his own shot….then proceed to miss said shot.

  3. passerby23 - Jun 20, 2011 at 11:31 AM

    This makes the Clippers a dangerous playoff team immediately, if healthy.

  4. firerosenthalthebastard - Jun 20, 2011 at 12:51 PM

    hahahaha any guy with the name of barkley4life you know has gotta be an id iot

    • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM

      Aww because your handle is clever every time it’s read it brings a smile to someone’s face.

  5. florida727 - Jun 20, 2011 at 12:58 PM

    “barkley4life”, are you learning impaired? When two contracts have differing lengths to them, and are for different amounts of money relative to the salary caps they affect, they are NOT considered to be a “contract for contract” situation. If you can’t see, or comprehend, the differences in these situations, you might want to consider taking that remedial English course yet again.

    • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM

      No moron you don’t get the point. If you trade Iggys 12million contract for Kamans 12 million wtf are you doing then idiot. This isn’t NBA2k dumbass. You are basically trading a long contract for a short one but you aren’t trading talent for talent.

      So again idiot..12 million for 12 is that…it isn’t 4 for 1…3 for 1… It’s Kaman for Iggy…long contract for short one…you take Iggys contract off our hands we will take less value for an expiring one.

      Scenario 2…Ellis for Iggy….contract for contract….we will swap our long term tweener headache…for your long term tweener headache because the contracts match.


  6. andyreidisfat - Jun 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM

    Who cares about contracts…. did this guy just say AI9 is “Great” at getting his own shot ?? Really ??? If that were the case with his defense he would be better than Kobe.

    The truth is AI9 can’t create a shot. He is an over hyped wing player who can’t shoot as well as i do (and at 5’11 and white and about a 15% shooter in my drive way). AI9 is the most overrated player in the nba. The only teams he would fit with is the Lakers and OKC. AI9 needs to be a third or 4th option to be good. He is NOT scorer and IMO (i only watched him every game his whole career) he is way over hyped on D. When Turner was in this year they only lost a tiny bit on D and Turner is a way better scorer.

    Any team that is not allready stacked with talent that trades for this guy is dumb. I think the best deal for the sixers would be a guy like Harden from OKC or a big. I am not a fan of getting a guy with and expiring contract because for all we know by the time the elague starts back up these contracts might not be guaranteed anymore. So i just don’t see the point. I think the sixers should do everything they can to trade with Minn. for that second pick. Take D. Williams and put all the young guys on the court with Brand who played better than he was given credit for last year and hope they all grow together into winners.

    • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM

      My point exactly, expiring contracts are gamble and ultimately worthless if you can’t attract free agents. Sixers need players, they aren’t a superstar away. Jrue Holiday has star potential but outside of that you don’t know. I like Turner more then others but he’s a couple years away. Move Iggy for some picks or a shooter(you like Harden and I wouldn’t mind Ibaka) and just keep building. No need to panic Iggy and Brand will be off the books in back to back years.

      Until you know what the CBA is going to be it’s ridiculous to trade for Kaman’s expiring contract. He’s not a long term solution.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 20, 2011 at 9:12 PM

        Why in the hell would OKC trade Harden for Iggy? Of course Kaman isn’t a long term solution. Ideally, they would also find somebody to take Brand’s contract then they would be free of those two burdensome contracts. Then and only then could they maneuver. I love your notion, hold out for some young potential superstar and draft picks. That is not going to happen.

      • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 9:39 PM

        Where in the he’ll did I say trade Iggy for a potential superstar? Ibaka is a superstar? How is my logic mind boggling, you want to make a MAJOR trade without having any idea what the future CBA is going to be.

        For a team that at best is a 5 seed in the east and closer to 6 through 8. Develop Turner, Holiday, if you can trade Iggy for young talent then do so, trading him for a backup center with injury problems is ridiculous. For an expiring contract that may still not give you the cap space to sign quality free agent?

        Harden for Iggy is a tough sell, but from OKC stand point they have to get ready to pay Westbrook and Ibaka and Harden. They aren’t keeping all three.

        If they can package Iggy to move up in the draft like what’s has been reported, I would drive his ass to the airport today.

    • lebronsinsecurity - Jun 20, 2011 at 7:33 PM

      This type of reasoning I have always questioned.. No offense, but you just stated how horrible Iggy is (not saying I agree with it or don’t), but then you expect to get the 2nd pick for him or James Harden.. According to you, “the most overrated player in the league” should generate great value in return??

    • egls7 - Jun 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM

      Omg if we could trade iggy for harden, I would be jizzing hahaha

      • barkley4life - Jun 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM

        Lol Harden is going somewhere but he isn’t staying in OKC. Big deals for Westbrook and possibly Ibaka. They are regretting that Perkins deal right now.

  7. damp1015 - Jun 20, 2011 at 2:54 PM

    Just do the trade…I want to see the Clippers become dangerous! Making the west more competitive, it showed this year in the playoffs….Now add a more dangerous Clippers…that I can love even more. And that is coming from a fan of the Knicks. I love more competition, it is what basketball should be. I’m tired of seeing too much dominance in the past years. I want to see toe to toe games not blow outs.

  8. kycobb - Jun 21, 2011 at 8:42 AM

    @barkley4life. Drmonkey is right. Kamans is expiring after this season so sixers will have more money to spend next offseason with that deal then the Ellis deal. If it was contract for contract then the money and years would be the same.

  9. kycobb - Jun 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM

    A true sixers fan knows what trade they will make. They will get the injury prone big man making over 10 million with his best days behind him. If the sixers are smart they would look for better offers and dont force the trade because of the lockout. Iggy no good here in Philly but he carries a lot of trade value.

    • barkley4life - Jun 21, 2011 at 9:11 AM

      Like Chris Kaman

      Or Jeff Ruland

      Mike Gminksi

      Charles Shackleford

      Lol Trade Barkely for Tim Perry Jeff Hornacek and a bum Center

      Matt Gieger Todd MacCulloch?

      Or Shawn Bradley(yes I bought his jersey…but in my defense I was also in the building went he went 20pts 20rbs) OR THE MAN THE MYTH THE LEGEND


      Sixers fan 25 years….yeah it hurts…lol but so do being a Phillies fan in the early 90’s

    • rodneysixerfolife - Jun 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM

      I feel you 100%

  10. rodneysixerfolife - Jun 21, 2011 at 3:13 PM

    I think this would be a horrible trade. Do I throw my boot at the tv when Iggy takes a shot…YES…do I cringe when he tries to take over a game..YUP….do I want him traded for Kaman or Ellis..HELLS NAW!!!!! if you can’t get Rudy Gay…you keep Iggy and to hell with what he wants. Draft Tristan..or Markieff in the 1st round…Keith Benson in the 2nd round..and if you wanna trade someone…Speights. Songalia, Kapono and Nocioni….and let’s ball….can’t wait till
    Thursday nite. SIXERS please don’t follow in the EAGLES footsteps and think your smarter than every other team..cuz your not. Take Markieff and call it a day. He’s Elton’s replacement. We can get Iggy’s replacement in next year’s draft.

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