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Dan Gilbert, Mo Williams enjoy the Heat loss too much

Jun 13, 2011, 1:51 AM EDT

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The wounds are not healed in Cleveland.

And watching LeBron James and the Heat lose was cathartic for many in Ohio. Or people who used to be in Ohio. Or people who just felt burned by LeBron. Or actually most of America.

That includes Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert, he of the comic-sans LeBron rant from last July (after LeBron decided his talents liked the beach), a letter that played well in Cleveland but was frankly embarrassing for a grown man. Since then he’s largely quiet on the issue. But after the Mavericks eliminated the Heat Sunday night, he couldn’t help himself and tweeted:

Congrats to Mark C.&entire Mavs org. Mavs NEVER stopped & now entire franchise gets rings. Old Lesson for all:There are NO SHORTCUTS. NONE.

As Tom Ziller of SBN noted, the billionaire who bought a team with LeBron on it then got pissed when he left is complaining about shortcuts? He just comes off as petty.

Then there is former Cav (now Clippers) Mo Williams, who tweeted:

Dallas just healed my HEART……..

There’s probably a lot of people in Cleveland who feel that way. But feeling you won because LeBron lost is a hollow victory. When next season comes, LeBron James is going to put on a Miami Heat jersey. And they will be better and closer to a title for the experience.

  1. dirksimmons - Jun 13, 2011 at 1:59 AM

    Kurt…There are no shortcuts to a good article. NONE.

    • downtowndanny - Jun 13, 2011 at 2:09 AM

      say it again, and again…

    • jjstrokes - Jun 13, 2011 at 7:52 AM

      Haha well said Dirksimm

  2. david8726 - Jun 13, 2011 at 2:11 AM

    I think LeBron responded well to this sort of thing in the press conference.

    People rejoicing in the Heats defeat still have to get up and go on living their lives tomorrow. Rejoicing in Miami’s demise will make them feel good for a moment, but like Kurt said, it’s a hollow joy. It isn’t happiness that’s as a result of something THEIR team did or happiness that comes from some personal achievement outside of sports.

    The best sort of happiness comes from positive things, not when you’re wishing negativity on other.

    And a memo to Mr. Gilbert and Mo – LeBron will still be on the Heat for at least the next 3 years. The credits haven’t rolled on his career. Losing this year doesn’t mean he won’t bounce back for a title. He’s only 26.

    • delius1967 - Jun 13, 2011 at 2:32 AM

      Really? I thought that comment from LeBron sounded petty, like “Even I lost, I’ve still got more than those suckers.” A classy comment would have been something along the lines of, “Hopefully we can learn from this and become the kind of team that people will want to root for.” It would still be taking a dig at his detractors but in a much more positive way.

      • originalkingjames - Jun 13, 2011 at 1:18 PM

        What he really meant to say is; We might have lost but I don’t have to go back to my 9-5 in the morning. I’m rich which is more important to me than winning championships. Ask anyone in Cleveland or Miami.

        As for making a statement that Mr. Gilbert and Mo are being negative and immature, the writer of the article is the one whining and must be one of the parents that supported the everyone plays rule and nobody makes an out in peewee ball because we don’t want to hurt the kids feelings. I guess it’s okay to hate the Yankees but not the Heat when LeBron plays for them.

        It must be okay though for LeBragAboutMyself to rag on the fans that made him a multimillionaire and throw out that beautiful dis about dealing with the same problems you dealt with the day before. The self appointed king who still has no crown.

        Does this idiot read a newspaper from time to time? This kid that came from the projects makes a comment that basically stated, you have problems and things to worry about but not me because I can play professional basketball and have more money than I can figure out what to do with. Households that have lost or are “worried” about losing their homes. Lower incomes, high unemployment, all the things we mere mortals have to deal with on a daily basis got thrown in everyone’s face. Even the fans that still like him.

        One thing about showing your true colors, bad things can happen even to the greatest in sport. Ask Tiger Woods.

    • savocabol1 - Jun 13, 2011 at 8:09 AM

      There is nothing wrong with rooting against a team in whatever capacity. This happens on a daily basis. Plenty of fans feel good when a team they really don’t like loses. This is no different.

      • fouldwimmerlaik - Jun 13, 2011 at 4:00 PM

        Yep. How on earth is this a “hollow victory?” I can’t stand the Heat and how they went about this whole thing. I think how they have tried to buy a team is bad for the NBA, and the arrogance they have shown since “The Decision” last year is indefensible. Being a fan of the NBA,I dislike them to their core. Watching them lose was a victory for every small market out there and a victory for building a team, as opposed to buying 3 super-egos and filling in around them with leftover NBA trash.

        This victory does not feel hollow in the least. Not one bit. Not less than if my hometown team had won the title. I am rooting for basketball and the trouncing of arrogance. I think anyone who says “it is a hollow victory” is just trying to piss on the cornflakes of those enjoying it.

        Nope, still doesn’t feel hollow…..feels great.

      • goldenpanther10 - Jun 13, 2011 at 6:19 PM

        @fouldwimmerlaik Please explain how the Miami Heat “bought” a team? The Big Three took less money than they could get elsewhere and came to Miami for the love of the game (check your stats, Dallas has a larger payroll than Miami). They play unselfish amongst each other and they bought into playing defense. As a “true” basketball fan, you would applaud that or at least respect it.

        As for the health of the NBA, ratings and interest were up this year and will be up for the next few years as interested people (and the self-proclaimed haters) tune in to see how this story line will pan out. This is a gold-mine for the league. This takes the level of competition to another level as teams recognize that they are going to have to be at their very best to compete. Think of the “Showtime” Lakers, Bird’s Celtics, and Jordan’s Bulls. Those were dominant teams, lead by multiple Hall of Famers, who didn’t let many others win. There wasn’t a whole lot of league parity then, but the league was widely popular.

        Yeah, Lebron choked in the Finals, enjoy it. He got them there in the Boston and Chicago series…but, I wouldn’t keep betting against Miami. Instead, I’d hope that my home team steps up their level so hating Miami isn’t the only thing I have to look forward to.

      • fouldwimmerlaik - Jun 14, 2011 at 12:05 PM

        goldenpanther:

        If you really don’t understand how they bought a team, it is a waste of time trying to explain it to you. Good luck.

      • goldenpanther10 - Jun 14, 2011 at 2:06 PM

        @fouldwimmerlaik If you can’t concisely explain how they “bought” a team, then you don’t have a good explanation. Since you are, apparently, a business of basketball guru… enlighten me. I like to think of myself as a fairly intelligent person and long time player of basketball, so don’t insult my intelligence unless you are going to back it up with some statistics or at least a compelling argument.

        Show me some other facts…The facts that I see are that Miami has a smaller payroll than Dallas (check that) and that this is not baseball; franchises don’t have an unlimited amount of money to spend. Yes, there are a few tweaks and work around to the cap, but it’s not a major discrepancy. True these guys along with many other NBA players still make a good amount of money, but it is a widely known fact that these guys could have gotten more money elsewhere, including in a small market (like Lebron in Cleveland) (please dispute this). The small market/major market debate is about who would want to go play in Cleveland vs. Miami. So, it wasn’t about money.

        Now, you could have said that Miami “crafted”, “schemed”, or “conspired” a team, but “bought” is not the word based on the evidence presented. Yes, they worked the past few years to clear the appropriate cap space, but there were a number of other teams that could have done that as well. So, throwing the Miami franchise under the bus in your Lebron bashing doesn’t sound very intelligent. Then trying to call me on it without at least a simple explanation presented is borderline ignorant.

      • fouldwimmerlaik - Jun 14, 2011 at 2:59 PM

        OK, goldenpanther, go stare at a wall. That is much as you want to see. Good luck!!!

      • goldenpanther10 - Jun 14, 2011 at 4:23 PM

        That’s what I thought… great reply

      • fouldwimmerlaik - Jun 14, 2011 at 5:47 PM

        Thanks. I try to keep things short for the impaired! Good luck!

  3. passerby23 - Jun 13, 2011 at 2:37 AM

    I feel good about the Heat not winning, but I also feel good about Dallas winning. Dirk and Kidd really deserved this championship. The interesting irony is the stark contrast between the Big Three and all their theatrics and egotistical drama vs. Dirk and Kidd, the consummate, classy pros who just let their game do the talking.

    Miami will probably be improved next year with the Finals experience under their belt, but you never know. Chicago, with some small improvements, could be better than Miami. The same could be said for Boston. There could be injuries. They could lose to Dallas again. Nothing is guaranteed.

  4. goforthanddie - Jun 13, 2011 at 2:44 AM

    No, they’re enjoying it just right.
    I’m not from CLE, don’t give a squat about the team, don’t care whether he stayed or left. But his whole “FA Tour”, letting CLE think they ever had a chance, “The Decision”…Then he consistently opens his mouth to let something stupid escape, which he denies, ignores, or blames on others…
    Bottom line, LeBitch is just very unlikeable. If Miami gets collateral damage because of LeBitch hate, c’est la vie.

  5. tashkalucy - Jun 13, 2011 at 2:51 AM

    Lebron James talks the talk but cannot walk the walk.

    His big mouth combined with his business partners at Nike and ESPN have shoved this kid down our throat here in America 24/7/365.

    I’m happy my children won’t allow my grandchildren to grow up with his attitudes — arrogance, disrespect for others which is combined with him telling the world how humble he is when the cameras are on. The guy is a phony.

    What made this playoff so interesting was that everything that is right with professional sports played against everything that is wrong……and the guys doing it right won it. It’s the American Way!

    • goldenpanther10 - Jun 13, 2011 at 6:22 PM

      It’s the American way except that the superstar for the other team doesn’t wear a USA jersey in the Olympics…

  6. dgbk - Jun 13, 2011 at 2:56 AM

    Ofcourse there are more important things in life then cheering a heats lost…. That doesnt matter lebron feelings are hurt by this. He can pretend it motivates him and he likes being the bad guy. He still wants evryone to love him again.

  7. pghsteel412 - Jun 13, 2011 at 4:39 AM

    im not a fan of lebron, i think he is a frontrunner… but dan gilbert really needs to get over it.. he sounds like the girl that gets dumped the day before prom and still cries about it at the 10 year h.s. reunion… the fact is he had lebron for 7 years.. he never brought in another superstar.. they had a chance to bring in amare stoudamire but refused to give up jj hickson… are u kidding me?!?!?!?!… lebron was the best thing to ever happen to cavs and gilbert as a owner failed to bring in all star talent.. i mean cmon.. mo williams? anthony parker? eric snow? why wouldnt lebron leave??? when the organization he plays for shows they dont care about winning, why should he stay? gilbert needs to worry about his current team only winning 19 games this past year and not a former player

    • takemytalentstosoutheuclid - Jun 13, 2011 at 7:21 AM

      Another Pittsburgh fan in the NBA forum. Go back to Hockeytalk…

      For the uninformed, Dan Gilbert is saying what the majority of his paying customers want to hear. If you think for a minute this guy does not want to win, you are insane and clearly do not pay attention. He is only as good as the advice given to him by his GM, and by his players. yes, that’s right. You think for a second Lebron didn;t have approval on their roster moves. He (LBJ) wanted Mo, Larry Hughes, Antawn Jamison, Shaq, all of them. He also did not want to trade Hickson, thus no Amare trade. And for all you Cavs haters out there, if his supporting cast was so bad in Cleveland, tell me why they won more games each of the last 2 years than the big 3 and the Heat did this year??? Cleveland lost a lot this season, not just LBJ. They dropped from best record to second worst, but lost 4 of their 5 starters from last year, not just James. Miami is a great team, no doubt, but unless they can get more talent around their big 3, and get James head out of his rear in certain playoff games, they will not win.

      What about this, Miami? Would the Heat not be best served by getting rid of Bosh and using his cap space to get 2 or 3 talented young players to fill out the roster? Seems as if they can field decent 4’s w/o Bosh, and that $$ is a little high for what he gave you this year…

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 13, 2011 at 8:01 AM

        Instead of getting rid of him I think the Heat should use Bosh more. He is a capable player that could take some of the pressure off Wade and James. Instead they leave him to hit the jumper off penetration or to score off the boards. They should actually use him as an offensive option. I think that is something that the pundits are ignoring and I’m not sure why.

      • leearmon - Jun 13, 2011 at 10:12 AM

        First off let me make this clear, I AM NO WAY A HEAT FAN. However, the notion that Lebron James had say in critical front office decisions while in Cleveland just shows how poor that team is. Again I have no horse in this race, but Dan Gilbert continues to show his poor leadership skills in regards to running a NBA franchise. I have no idea if Lebron was the one who made the Hughes, Jamison, Mo & Shaq acquisitions, but if thats the case, what type of organization is that?!?!? Consider this, Kobe Bryant, one of the greatest players of all-time wanted Jason Kidd, Baron Davis and others at the expense of Andrew Bynum, but did the Lakers cave in? Absolutely not! Brandon Roy wanted the Blazers to trade away Andre Miller, however Portland did not oblige. You get my point? You cannot give a player, no matter how great he is (Kobe) or important to your franchise (Roy) final say in front office decisions. Should you run it by them? Sure. But if you are about to make an awful signing (Hughes) or trade for an aging, overrated player (Jamison) at the expense of getting a superstar (Amar’e) because a player doesnt like it, its clear the inmates are running the asylum and thats why the Cavaliers are a joke of a franchise. And are you really suggesting that the Cavs would have been a strong team had they still had Shaq, Varejao and kept Mo without Lebron?? Didnt think so.

      • southbeachtalent - Jun 13, 2011 at 12:43 PM

        I would think Gilbert’s paying customers would like a team that contends??

        Oh, that’s right its Cleveland they’re used to it. LOSERS…

    • savocabol1 - Jun 13, 2011 at 8:18 AM

      Amare was never going to come to Cleveland and if you think he was please put the bottle down before posting comments on this site. There was nothing more Cleveland could have done. The Cavs did everything Lebron asked for and then some. He and Wade came up with the plan to all get on the same team well before last seasons free agency period.

      People like you are the ones that need to get over this. Cavs fans are happy Lebron didn’t get his ring, but we won’t be talking about it by the end of this week. Saying congrats to the Mavs and saying there is no shortcuts to winning really sounds like a guy still crying about Lebron….again please put the bottle down before you post comments.

      • pghsteel412 - Jun 13, 2011 at 9:21 AM

        what do u mean he was never gonna come? the suns had the deal made that they were gonna trade amare for hickson… cleveland didnt wanna give him up.. amare didnt have a no trade clause.. he would have had to go… do u really think dan gilbert would have said that comment about shortcuts if lebron didnt do the decision? if u do then maybe u need to put the bottle down.. the fact is there was never another legitimate star along with lebron in cleveland, so why should he have stayed on a team that didnt want to win? if they did want to win they woulda added talent waaaay before lebron was set to become a free agent

      • leearmon - Jun 13, 2011 at 12:48 PM

        Clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about. I dont know about this “bottle” you keep referring to, however, since you are a NBA novice at best i’ll spell it out to you, Amar’e would have been TRADED to Cleveland, he didnt have a choice. You think Amar’e would have rejected a trade to go to the top seeded team in the NBA and a chance for the NBA title??? Yes we know the city of Cleveland sucks, however theres no doubt in my mind Amar’e would have played his ass off at the chance to win a ring. And exactly how do you know “Amar’e was never going to come to Cleveland…” are you two best friends? Are you his agent? Didnt think so. Again calm down most people including myself are glad that Miami didnt win, but the notion that Cleveland did all they could do is a bit preposterous. Because we all know that Larry Hughes signing, Antawn Jamison trade, Wally Szczerbiak trade as well did wonders. Oh P.S. I have cousin who’s born and raised in Cleveland and I can bet money he and many others in the mistake by the lake will be talking about this for quite some time…

    • utteke - Jun 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM

      They refused to give up Hickson because Lebron was against giving up Hickson. He nixed the trade.

  8. tejano2k - Jun 13, 2011 at 5:47 AM

    Dan Gilbert’s right about the shortcut thing. Miami proved that, as did my beloved Lakers a few years back when they brought in Payton and Malone. The Heat is obviously, a good team. Not a great team because all the “pieces” aren’t in the puzzle…yet. As a NBA fan, I get personal satisfaction from the fact that the “annointed” “King James” is apparently a king without a kingdom or, as they say in our part of the country, “He’s all hat, no cattle”. No rings = James is excluded from the conversation regarding the “Greatest Ones”.

    • mytthor - Jun 13, 2011 at 6:36 AM

      Someone had some extra quotation marks lying around.

  9. macbull - Jun 13, 2011 at 6:52 AM

    Dan Gilbert, Mo Williams enjoy the Heat loss too much

    Congrats to Mark C.&entire Mavs org. Mavs NEVER stopped & now entire franchise gets rings. Old Lesson for all:There are NO SHORTCUTS. NONE.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Kurt Helin…just what the hell is wrong with Gilbert’s comment?

    You sir, are just trying to stir a pot that is empty…nothing there…

    Earth to Kurt…it is true…there are no shortcuts…

    • goldenpanther10 - Jun 13, 2011 at 6:29 PM

      Well, Boston did it in their first year of their Big Three? I would stay away from absolutes…

  10. savocabol1 - Jun 13, 2011 at 8:05 AM

    Literally read a bunch of articles saying how much Dalls won this because they are a team, not a bunch of individuals (i.e. NO SHORTCUTS). The fact you are trying to bash Gilbert is laughable. You sound like a kid who didn’t get his way (Miami winnning) and is taking it out on everyone. Go back to the drawing board with your articles…

  11. southbeachtalent - Jun 13, 2011 at 9:16 AM

    Gilbert your team still sucks. Here’s a hint stop watching LeBron play and try to improve your team, it’s the laughing stock of the NBA.

    Mo what can I say you sucked in cleveland and you suck in LA. Stop watching LeBron and worry about yourself. As a proffesional athlete if you take pride in someone else’s demise that means your pitiful. We’ll be back next year and run over the Cavs and Clippers, the two biggest jokes in the NBA.

    • nard100 - Jun 13, 2011 at 1:14 PM

      Gotta agree on Gilbert. We keep asking LeBron to take the high road and Giblbert just can’t let it go. I’m not a Miami fan, but if what he says is true about ther being no shortcuts, the Cavs fans sans LeBron may have to get on the 10 year plan. Congrats to the Mavs and their fans. When you think about it, the reason why the Mavs won is because “role” players finally started to play like stars. It changed Miami’s defensive approach completely. Did you see them down the stretch? They had no idea who to double team! Well done.

  12. laserw - Jun 13, 2011 at 9:23 AM

    Someone needs to buy LeBrick a step ladder. Since he is unwilling to rise above mediocrity on his own, we should buy him a way to raise his game.

    Cleveland has every right to be indignant at LeBrick.

    And they have every right to rejoice at the failure of the Miami Sound Machine. All noise. All the time.

    Meanwhile Dallas is celebrating.

    • goldenpanther10 - Jun 13, 2011 at 6:34 PM

      So, the Eastern Conference Champs Miami Heat were a bad 6 minute stretch in Game 2 from being up 3-0 in the NBA Finals and all the sudden they are just a sound machine? Just give Dallas the credit for being the better team this series and winning and I’d wait a few years before celebrating on Miami’s failures…you might not get the last laugh

  13. berbes - Jun 13, 2011 at 9:50 AM

    so i imagine after a full season of writing ‘articles’ backing the heat, kurt can now go back and give 100% in tending lebron’s landscaping needs?

  14. dcviking - Jun 13, 2011 at 9:54 AM

    Wonder when D-Wade will look to leave Miami because the Heat failed to bring in the appropriate players to help him win a championship…

    Seriously, does Lebron realize that even if the Heat win the championship, everyone still has to get up to their same lives the next morning — that’s life.

    I didn’t hear his whole presser, but did anything resembling “We need to figure out what we didn’t do well in this series and correct it next year. I know that’s my focus in the offseason. This loss should leave everyone hungry — getting this close and not winning is very disappointing.”

    I’m guessing not.

  15. diablito0402 - Jun 13, 2011 at 3:10 PM

    Actually i think the heat is the biggest joke in the nba. Everyone is laughing at these silly whinning flopping little imature kids southbeach, ya hear. Ive never seen so much joy across the nation to see a bunch of loosers loose arfter clowning around all year.

  16. diablito0402 - Jun 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM

    Cleveland where loosers with james or without so whats your point.

  17. diablito0402 - Jun 13, 2011 at 3:17 PM

    Southbeach sure talks alot about other teams sucking, where were you last year when “your heat” sucked nuts. Ohh you where probably rooting for the lakers,,,,, right?

  18. ljl2 - Jun 13, 2011 at 4:31 PM

    I guess in Kurt’s mind LeBron’s comments raggin on his former teammates and fans all year are okay but for those people to say something back its because they can’t get over it. LeBron has said things about Cleveland more than people have said things about Cleveland. Who needs to get over it? The person who instigates or the people who defend themselves? Karma, right? Dying down in the moment? I remember Kurt ripping on Gibson for saying that great players don’t need to rip others, they step up. Guess who died down in the moment…again = LBJ LBJ how many how many dumb things did you say today?

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