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Jazz coach Corbin says blame AAU for the Miami Heat

May 31, 2011, 8:54 AM EDT

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You heard it right after LeBron James talked about where his talents were going — other older players jumped up and said they would not have done this. They would not have willingly joined forces with other superstars to chase rings.

Former NBA player and current Jazz coach Tyrone Corbin gets that.

He told the Deseret News the culture is different than when he played and says AAU basketball — the traveling high school All-Star teams that play through the summer — is the reason.

“Just thinking back in the day when I was younger in the league, superstar guys wanted to have their own show. It’s changed,” Corbin said. “These kids they grew up in AAU, being on all-star teams, and they’re used to playing with superstar guys. And they want that kind of team because … they have a chance to win big every night. They want to win championships and not have to be the only guy getting it done.”

Added Corbin: “I think it’s a change for this new generation of kid who’s used to being on these superstar teams from the AAU thing.”

So if you hate the Heat, blame AAU basketball. Which is fine, AAU gets blamed for a lot of things (the deterioration of fundamentals among younger players, isolation basketball, the lack of a midrange game in the NBA, global warming).

Also know what AAU spawned and what LeBron James did this summer resonates through the Collective Bargaining Agreement negotiations. Small market owners see what happened with Miami, what Carmelo Anthony did with Denver, and they want their control back. (If they ever had it, but that’s another story.) You see Utah trading away Deron Williams before he can even think about becoming a free agent because they believe they can’t keep him after his deal is up. Small and middle-sized market owners want the ability to keep their stars, and that is going to be a big part of the subtext of the CBA talks.

  1. lphboston - May 31, 2011 at 9:09 AM

    Small market teams (Sacramento) — and teams in cold climates (Minnesota) — definitely have a gripe. The NFL’s popularity is due in large part to the fact that player movement is limited. Memebers of the military have no choice as to where they work, and NBA players — who make about 100 times what someone in the Army does — should play with the team that drafts them. Or find another line of work. Even if Cleveland drafts another LeBron James, unless the rules changes he’ll be gone in a few years.

    • sknut - May 31, 2011 at 11:19 AM

      I agree 100 percent. Parity rules the NFL and the NBA has no parity so no matter how good the elite teams are plenty of fans are turned off by the notion that there team through no fault of their own will always be a second class citizen.

      In the end the biggest difference is the elite teams can make more mistakes and get away with them, where as small market teams have to be perfect on every personal decision they make and that is not always reasonable.

  2. silk32 - May 31, 2011 at 9:11 AM

    Tyrone Corbin got this notion from the following article from the Shock Exchange . Next time site the source Ty.

  3. chargerdillon - May 31, 2011 at 11:52 AM

    So it makes more sense to hold players to play with the franchise that drafted them or dont play in the NBA anymore?

    But it’s ok if any other person in this country decides that they want to quit/leave their job for a better job with a better opportunity for them, their life, and their families life….

    So now because they’re atheletes, they are pieces of property who dont get to dictate how they live their life.

    On a side note, I dont know anybody from the last 2 decades in this country that didnt enlist in some sort of military in this country for any reasons other than their own choosing. The facts we know about military life, you dont make decisions for yourself, and you dont make a lot of money in that job. If people are willing to accept that lifestyle, THATS ON THEM. This country is about making the best deal for yourself and thats what every american and athelete does. Just because they do something they actually want to do and get paid for it, doesnt mean they should be held like pieces of property. Get an education, get a better job, or better yet dont join the military and blame them for having a poor lifestyle

    • savvybynature - May 31, 2011 at 12:11 PM

      You are right. People joined the military via their own free will. And by doing so they agree to follow the military rules.

      And people voluntarily join the NBA as well, and by doing so accept the NBAs set of rules. It’s no different. So if they change the NBA rules to make it harder for players to move around, players can accept that or do anything else they want with their life.

      It seems like you made your point, and then went on a tangent that completely destroyed your initial point.

  4. barkley4life - May 31, 2011 at 12:40 PM

    Has nothing to do with AAU…pure B.S…..I’m old school all the way but players like Barkley Jordan etc who say they would never team up are HYPOCRITES. Jordan had Pippen Grant Rodman Kukoc Harper etc etc…Of course he didn’t have to leave or team up…Magic had Kareem Worthy Thompson Scott Divac etc etc….

    Even Karl Malone tried to get a title with the Lakers…its easy for the players with the titles to run their mouths now…Ask those great Cavaliers players like Mark Price Brad Daugherty Larry Nance etc if they would have gone to play on the Bulls Lakers etc during the heyday to get a title…Trust me it would be a yes in a heartbeat.

    The NBA was a four team league in the 80’s 90’s…Celtics Knicks Lakers Bulls…stop the crying

    • chargerdillon - May 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM

      How many rings did Charles win? Oh that’s right he never did.

      Charles can talk on a lot of subjects, but the subject of winning championships should be left to those that actually accomplish the goal.

      I like Charles sometimes, when he was a mouthy player his opinions were more spot on than they are nowadays. He’s starting to come across as an old man griping about the ways things used to be to a younger generation that sooner or later will stop responding to him if he doesn’t change his act. Confrontational announcers don’t last very long when the biggest stars don’t want to talk to them anymore.

    • almzor - May 31, 2011 at 3:47 PM

      There’s a difference between what Malone did and what LeBron did. Malone played for his drafting franchise for the majority of his career; he tried in good faith to bring a championship to his city and only left in the twilight of his career. Malone was 40 when he played for the Lakers after 18 seasons with Utah.

      Lebron left Cleveland at 26 after 7 seasons. If he lasts in Miami until 34, he will have played more of his career there than with his drafting franchise.

      Malone also communicated his desire to leave when Stockton retired to the franchise ownership, and left with the organization’s full informed consent. He understood that while he was a great player and a hall of famer, he was still only a part of the team.

      Lebron cued the Cavs in minutes before his TV special that he wasn’t coming back. He blindsided them. He showed an egocentrism with that move that Malone did not. Both wanted to go get a ring, Malone thought of the needs of his team and also took a huge pay cut to leave (he played for 1.5 mil in his final season after getting 19 mil the season before). Lebron took the money and ran, his pay cut was smaller than Malone’s 1.5 million salary..

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