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Who is MVP? LeBron shut down Rose during series

May 27, 2011, 3:19 PM EDT

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Versatility. It was the key to why Miami was able to defeat Miami.

While the Bulls had offensive and defensive specialists they tried to go with — Taj Gibson or Carlos Boozer? — the Heat could leave their best guys on the floor. And mix and match.

Like have LeBron James guard Derrick Rose with the game on the line. And according to ESPN’s stats and information, it worked really well.

After going 0-for-5 from the floor with a turnover when guarded by LeBron James in Game 4, Derrick Rose struggled against him once again Thursday, going 1-for-10 with two turnovers in Game 5. Rose shot 6.3 percent from the floor in the series when defended by James, lowest among any player that defended him on five or more plays.

Meanwhile at the other end of the floor the Bulls played good defense even though the Heat scored on eight straight possessions late. Think about the shots — Dwyane Wade hitting a contested three (with the foul by Rose), LeBron with a three to tie and another jump shot later.

What was the book on Miami? Make them shoot jump shots, just don’t let LeBron and Wade get to the rim. In the final four minutes Miami had one made shot at the rim, everything else was outside. When they hit the jumpers, there is nothing a defense can do, no matter how good.

The difference was the Bulls needed to score, but Rose could not shake free of LeBron. And the Bulls do not have a second option of a guy who can create his own shot. In essence, what LeBron did to Ruse shut down the entire Bulls offense.

Rose was the MVP because of how he carried that offense all season. But at the biggest moments, the better player shut him down.

  1. hnirobert3 - May 27, 2011 at 3:23 PM

    MVP doesn’t mean Best Player, it means Most Valuable. Rose was absolutely more valuable to his team. We all saw what the Bulls were this series when he doesn’t show up. They may not be a playoff team without him.

    • barkley4life - May 27, 2011 at 3:49 PM

      if that was the criteria Dwight Howard was just as valuable if not more. Take Howard off the Magic they barely get to 20 wins if that. At least the Bulls would be left with Noah and Boozer and great team defense.

    • Maxa - May 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM

      That seems silly. Why exactly should we reward players for having weak teammates?

    • Justin - May 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM

      And so starts the argument of what exactly MVP means. It will never be agreed upon

  2. zblott - May 27, 2011 at 3:25 PM

    Here’s an article at the end of the year that clearly laid out why LBJ was the MVP:

    @hnirobert3 – The Bulls didn’t do well in the series because Rose had the ball in his hands too much, not because he didn’t show up. Last I checked, he had a ton of turnovers and missed a ton of bad shots – that’s all on him. James was without question more valuable to his team’s success this season.

    • themanchine - May 27, 2011 at 3:26 PM

      Wade & Bosh disaggree. Rose WAS Chicago’s success, not 1/3 of it.

      • zblott - May 27, 2011 at 3:29 PM

        The Bulls’ success primarily comes from defense, something Rose isn’t so good at compared to his teammates. The defense couldn’t stop the Heat, that’s why they lost. That and Rose tried to force too much action when he had a tough defender on him, something a good PG shouldn’t do.

  3. themanchine - May 27, 2011 at 3:25 PM

    It was the key to why Miami was able to defeat Miami.

    Why do you do this AT LEAST once in every article?

  4. cookie2117 - May 27, 2011 at 4:07 PM

    I thought Miami defeated Chicago

  5. nicosamuelson2 - May 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM

    Most valuable equals best.

    A $20 bill is always more valuable than a $10 bill, no matter what other bills you pair them with.

    (James is the $20 in this scenario)

    • bittersonicsfan - May 28, 2011 at 6:29 AM

      That seriously has to be the best explanation I’ve ever heard. Kudos! And kudos again!

  6. coltsfanindc - May 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM

    Yeh but a $20 bill w/ someone who has $80 more in his pocket isn’t as valuable as someone w/ $10 bill and only has 40cents more in his pocket. in this scenario, the guy w/ $10 are the bulls.

    I do laugh however at those who criticized Lebron for being in the same situation as Rose the last 3yrs and coming up short now rush to Derricks defense due to lack of help. i submit his team has better players than lebron’s cavs did

  7. coltsfanindc - May 27, 2011 at 4:34 PM

    i said all that to say, as a Heat fan, Rose deserved the mvp. besides, i dont want Bron or wade to win that thing for a while. its cursed!!

  8. chitownbulls - May 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

    Why can’t they just co-exist? LeBron himself said that D.Rose EARNED M.V.P. LeBron has higher goals set for himself and the Miami Heat this year. They said that they wanted to win multiple championships. They amassed the talent to do so.

    On the other hand, the Bulls are a lottery team w/o Rose. The argument vs. Rose and Dwight Howard is simple in my book. Had Orlando dominated the East more it would have been closer. Did Dwight fans really want him to receive the MVP award AFTER being bounced out of the first round (shades of Dirk)?

    I think D.Rose should get credit for getting past the Pacers and ATL just to arrive at this moment. Were the Bulls supposed to win the title this year or something? They squeezed the talent on their roster like a sponge. Sorry, it was dried up at the end. Nothing else to get out of it.

    Finally, I don’t care HOW talented a guy is, MVP or not… If the opposing team has the luxury of only guarding you, Korver and MAYBE Deng consistently (I need to pull a stat on this, but I think Joel Anthony blocked 85% of whatever it was Booz was doing at the rim), then I think its safe to say that you will be shut down…

    Heat = promised championships, advanced to the Finals
    Bulls = played with a lot of heart, dominated the regular season, incl. the Heat, so they got a small percentage of commentators to pick them to win the series

    That about sums it up. 3 of 10 ESPN writers picked them to win in 7 and the Inside the NBA picked them, not because of Rose, but because it was thought that our bench would outperform the Heat’s and that our front court would dominate the boards… Anyone else who passionately picked the Bulls to win against Miami (after winning their first playoff series, lets not forget that), was just a dedicated, crazed homer, like myself.

    He deserved MVP, he had a hell of a season, and he will be back in the gym out in Cali for brutal 2-a days for a couple of months trying to get better. I can’t ask for more than that.

  9. lunasceiling - May 27, 2011 at 7:04 PM

    I thought MVP was pretty much universally understood to be a regular season award. If it were meant to include the playoffs, it would be awarded after the playoffs. Given that, Rose is a valid choice: the hands-down best player on the team with the best regular season record.

    So far in the playoffs, I’d say Lebron is the most valuable player not named Nowitzki.

  10. edcolton - May 27, 2011 at 8:57 PM

    James shut Rose down. Period. Exclamation point! Lebron much better athlete.
    Rose will end up carrying the Bulls like Lebron did Cavaliers unless they get him some help.
    Down here in South Beach Miami will have a 3-4 year run at championship if Wade holds up. Miller and Chalmers still developing and Haslem is a handful. to me they are the “little 3” When all are truly healthy they are really unbeatable. Riley is a master at putting a team together. No easy task in NBA or NFL. MLB is a snore -bore!

    • chitownbulls - May 27, 2011 at 10:06 PM

      So? LeBron has played in over 82 playoff games. If he didn’t shut Rose down he would have never lived it down… I’m happy that everyone thought D.Rose was Jordan since expectations seemed to be so high. I thought the majority of the media picked the Heat to win in 5-6 games anyway, so why is this a surprise? Geez, you would think LeBron never shut anybody down before.

  11. edcolton - May 27, 2011 at 9:00 PM

    Lebron is not MVP because of the team around him. The Big German is definitely the MVP for his overrall contribution to team. Rose is distant 3rd. He chokes late as in college.

  12. metalhead65 - May 27, 2011 at 10:10 PM

    why don’t you make it official and just rename the site miami heat talk. com? dear god is there no end to constant hype of james and the heat on this site? let’s see according this site pat riley is executive of the year, spolestra should be coach of the year lebron mvp and whatever rookie on the team should be mvp right? this just shows why most people root against the heat and lebron and that is thier sense of entitlement. rose earned the award for what he did in the regular season not the playoffs,I am not a bulls fan but you have to blind to see he did not deserve the award. where would that team be without him? miami still has 2 pretty good players should something happen to lebron and would still have a good record and go farther in the playoffs than the bulls without rose.

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