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Quote of the Day: Celtics owner not a Heat fan

May 25, 2011, 10:20 PM EDT

Miami Heat forward LeBron James and Chris Boch react towards the end of the fourth quarter against the Boston Celtics in Game 4 of their NBA Eastern Conference playoff series in Boston Reuters

“I am watching this year because I want Miami to lose so badly. I’m rooting hard against the Heat.”

—Celtics co-owner Wyc Grousbeck, on WEEI radio in Boston, talking about if he is still watching the playoffs now that the Celtics are out of it. See, a lot of you do have something in common with an NBA team owner.

  1. edweird0 - May 25, 2011 at 10:29 PM

    Hahaha whatta sore loser. All that hate only makes us stronger.

    • philtration - May 25, 2011 at 11:29 PM

      No it doesn’t.
      It just makes you hated and when that many people hate you then it is time to look in the mirror and ask why.
      When millions of people hate you then it is you.

      • digitalpoo - May 26, 2011 at 12:11 AM

        mmmm…. yep, that comment just made me stronger.

      • daduts - May 26, 2011 at 8:48 AM

        Awww. So bitter, I see. Btw, most people hated Galileo when he claimed that the earth revolves around the sun, not the other way around. You see, even when a lot of people hate you, you may still turn out to be the right one.

      • heat256 - May 26, 2011 at 9:07 AM

        No, it just shows how small and petty most people are. Like you clearly are. Most people hate people with money because they have what so many others want. Human nature? Sure. But it doesn’t make the hater any better. Just shows they spend too much time complaining and not enough time working on their own situations to better themselves. Like the C’s owner, who has to endure aging stars and bad drafting positions.

      • yoda1117 - May 26, 2011 at 3:40 PM

        I just looked in the mirror. Whoa! What a good looking dude! Now I know why millions of people hate me!

        You see, when millions of people hate you? That’s because they don’t have what you have, and they are never going to just let you enjoy it for the sake of enjoying it.

        These is what haters really are: IF I CANNOT HAVE IT, THEN YOU CANNOT HAVE IT EITHER.

        Haters are a plague. They justify their self loathing and feeling of inadequacy by putting others down. Which one are you?

  2. randommofo - May 25, 2011 at 11:11 PM

    Pretty classless of an owner to talk like that, stooping to Dan Gilbert’s level.

    • jordinh - May 26, 2011 at 10:49 AM

      Welp… LBJ made a lot of haters at all levels… Too bad. Even MJ spoke out against the union of the big 3 and a ton of commentators. I’ve never seen a team so hated in all the years of watching basketball. The last time was prob Detroit Pistons when Lambeer played. But this far exceeds that. Trajic. LBJ could have been great. Its hard to put him in the list of top 50 players of all time with so many saying he had a lot of help if he wins some rings. He eventually will.

  3. edweird0 - May 25, 2011 at 11:53 PM

    @philtration when everyone hates you it’s because you’re the best at what you do and you’re among the most envied. Get off the hater bandwagon you fucking troll. Just keep on cranking out those excuses, musica to my ears ;)

    • philtration - May 26, 2011 at 11:18 AM

      I have taken dumps that knew more about basketball than you.

      You are either one of those popped collar, Jersey Shore frat boys or a suburban “gangsta” white guy named Todd that wears a Heat jersey 3 sizes too big and a $29 “gold” chain that you got at the Mega-Mall.
      Probably asks grandma to send her $20 birthday gift in singles so you can fan it out to show to your posse

      Yo yo yo… check it out Brad!

  4. fern361mia - May 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM

    Phil when that many ppl hate you that means alot ppl want to be you. Look in the mirror and you will see a heathater . Heat all the way .

  5. jordinh - May 26, 2011 at 12:46 AM

    I dont like the Heat for different reason other than decision-gate. LeBron also played the race card in the aftermath, which was an even more stupid move. But I like LeBron and Wade as people. LB made a mistake he regrets.
    HOWEVER, I really dont like the Heat as a team and hope they lose because the big 3 took tens of millions less to play with each other. LB alone, 30 million. That cheating the system of free agency and lottery. The idea is the money would distribute the talent accross the teams. Now you have a situation where LB is already worth $300 million, so $30 mill wont kill him. I really hate what he did. They conspired to join forces and play for less. If LB wins, you could say he paid $30 mil for the ring. For me, if Heat wins, its just a peice of metal with no meaning.
    Like Jordan said, “I would have never called Larry Bird and Majic Johnson to form a team. These were the guys I was trying to beat.”
    LB took the easy way out. I hope he loses and never get a ring.

    • simplelogic67 - May 26, 2011 at 1:07 AM

      First off, the “race card” he played was really pretty innocuous if you look at what was actually said. As far as MJ’s quote, that’s an easy statement to make when you have a great team and another go to player by your side, but LB’s situation was totally different. If MJ was losing with Mo Williams as the 2nd best player on his team then hey may of considered joining another team to get help.

      • Justin - May 26, 2011 at 1:18 AM

        I agree. People can keep saying the crap about Jordan. How quick they are to dismiss that he won 3 of his titles along side 2 future Hall of Famers. I think he should be ridiculed more for what he said because he is disrespecting how great Rodman and Pippen were. The funny thing is I associate Bosh as more of a Horance Grant type player, who helped win his other 3 titles, and not a future HOFer. Time will tell though.

      • jordinh - May 26, 2011 at 1:30 AM

        This was Jordan’s roster the first year he won it all. Pippen was a 6th round pick. Everyone else is not exactly hall of famers and he had to play against great teams like Majic and Kareem.

        10 B.J. Armstrong G 6-2 175 September 9, 1967 1 University of Iowa
        24 Bill Cartwright C 7-1 245 July 30, 1957 10 University of San Francisco
        54 Horace Grant F-C 6-10 215 July 4, 1965 3 Clemson University
        14 Craig Hodges G 6-2 190 June 27, 1960 8 California State University, Long Beach
        2 Dennis Hopson G-F 6-5 200 April 22, 1965 3 Ohio State University
        23 Michael Jordan G-F 6-6 195 February 17, 1963 6 University of North Carolina
        34 Stacey King F-C 6-11 230 January 29, 1967 1 University of Oklahoma
        53 Cliff Levingston F 6-8 210 January 4, 1961 8 Wichita State University
        5 John Paxson G 6-2 185 September 29, 1960 7 University of Notre Dame
        32 Will Perdue C 7-0 240 August 29, 1965 2 Vanderbilt University
        33 Scottie Pippen F-G 6-8 210 September 25, 1965 3 University of Central Arkansas
        42 Scott Williams F-C 6-10 230 March 21, 1968 R University of North Carolina

      • Justin - May 26, 2011 at 2:24 AM

        Where Pippen was drafted is irrelevant. Jordan may be one of the best to even play the game. I am just saying the Heat aren’t playing with talent that is that much different than what Jordan had. Jordan’s ego is just worried his place in history has some competition.

        And are we really going to insult someone who values winning more than money? For some that is the case but they usually don’t last that long is this league.

    • 00maltliquor - May 26, 2011 at 4:20 AM

      *that was for jordinh

    • heat256 - May 26, 2011 at 9:22 AM

      Wait….you’re bashing a player who took LESS than he could have so he could allow the team to sign free agents like Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem, and convinced his two other star teammates who could have made MORE and had more individual prestige? Yeah, what a bastard!!! Your stupider than stupid reasoning that since he was worth more individually he “cheated” a system that was designed for players to do that same thing IF they chose to makes no sense. Why aren’t you bashing Mike Bibby for basically throwing away $6 million guaranteed to try and win a championship? Did he just try and buy it too? Jordan had signed a long term deal with the Bulls early on and couldn’t have entered free agency. Besides, beating Magic and Larry was the furthest thing from his mind as he had enough trouble beating Detoit. Also, why would Bird leave when he had Parish, McHale and DJ on his team? Ditto for Magic, who had Kareem, Worthy and Scott. Sorry, their arguments don’t wash. Just because Jordan was the best player in basketball didn’t mean that he could just step onto the court and win it every year. If that were the case, LBJ would have done it too. Jordan had to learn to grow his game, and play on a team where each player’s individual strengths could be folded into the collective team’s identity. Phil Jackson implemented not only a basketball philosophy, but a personal one that made him a great coach.

      • jordinh - May 26, 2011 at 10:41 AM

        Well first off, your screen name, “heat*” makes you bias. I’m not bias. I used to love watching LBJ play much like I did MJ. Wade was one of my favorite player. He brought the excitement back to NBA for me personally. Bibby did take less, so did DIRK. However, DIRK took a paycut on a team he was already on. Thats loyalty baby. Bibby took a shot at a longer contract after this year. Also, Bibby is hardley a top 50 player. The FACT of the matter is, most people boo the Heat for one reason or another (minus the folks in Miami).

        I’m not the only person that thinks this, this came from MJ’s mouth too. He said what I’ve been thinking all along. So many others are thinking the same thing.

        Your entitled to your bias opinion. The fact that you resort to name calling makes you a buffoon. You prob an uneducated high school trailor trash drop out who happens to live in Miami that works in the concession stand during their games. Go get an education and stay away from drugs!

    • heat256 - May 26, 2011 at 11:38 AM

      So, by your logic, your “jordin” name makes you bias. Your command of the English language notwithstanding, I’d hardly say you are in any position to even surmise (that means guess) what someone’s biases are. I’m a Heat fan first and foremost, yes, but also a basketball fan. I got pissed at Wade and LeBron’s one on one hero tactic BS just like anyone else did. So what if they conspired to play together? Not illegal. And the only reason people are bitching is because the player they wanted didn’t sign with their team. Grow up. Loyalty isn’t something that every player has to show, nor does any franchise. Care to name how many players got dropped from their teams because they lost a step or two, or how players bolted and took a bigger payday (cough cough Carlos Boozer)? The list is long. And we say so what. The team’s what matters right? You may love individual players, but the team is what you stick through. When Wade loses a step and decides he wants to play until they pull the jersey off him, then it’s the Heat organization’s priority to let him do it elsewhere or else their team may suffer. Can you grasp that concept? People hate the Heat because they hate what they don’t have. Period. So what. It makes sports interesting. Just be honest and say you are angry because good players didn’t go to your team. Oh, and just to let you know little boy, I’m college educated and am more than happy to lay another intelluctual slapdown on you anytime you feel froggy.

      • jordinh - May 26, 2011 at 5:05 PM

        yes, i took the “jordinh” from jordan. I love MJ. So did the rest of the NBA fans including LBJ who wore 23 until recently and you prob do too. And there are other franchise players that did the same like Darrant. How does this make me bias? Because I share the same view as MJ? I was thinking this big 3 union was a cheap way to get a ring like many other fans. MJ just said what everyone else is thinking. LBJ predicted 7 or 8 championships with the Heat when they formed. He did not do that in Cleveland. Why did he predict it then. Because he knows he took the chessy way out just to get a ring and the road ahead was going to be damn easy.

        BTW, you are not college educated. You copied that entire paragraph in word to do spell and grammar check before you posted it. Admit it little girl. Heat will eventually get 5-8 rings with this big 3. But if 19/20 NBA fans thinks its just a piece of rock, including Jordan and Barkley, then that’s what it is, just a piece of metal like any other metal. Imagine 20 years from now when he unites with the great one at some event, they will all tell him you cheated the system to get that. That rock is meaning less because he paid $30 million for it.

    • alltimeballa - May 26, 2011 at 7:35 PM

      I am still a MJ fan and believe he did for basketball what no other athlete has or will, that being said, the objective of basketball even if its neighborhood ball is to put the BEST TEAM on the court. You can’t tell me that Mjs Bulls were not trying to do the same with the talent they had. People hate the Heat because what they have done is beat THE NBA AT ITS OWN GAME!!! There is NO loyalty amongst ownership as it relates to players. Lets examine the Cavs ownership and what has been said about Lebron and how he left cleveland. Are we supposed to forget about the MILLIONS of dollars that Lebron made for the team and the city? Of course that is what you would like us to do so that we can hate him. I fully appreciate what Pat Riley has done by gathreing together a team that can monopolize the NBA for years. The objective of team sports is to win championships. Charles Barkley has been vocal about his dislike for how these guys got together but i remember Charles changing teams trying to get in the best possible position to win a championship.So D Wade, Lebron and CB decided to do it before they got old and noticed that they had money but no rings…..what was it that we were supposed to not like?

  6. muhangis - May 26, 2011 at 1:17 AM

    Exactly, all that hate just makes you hated, it amounts to nothing else. It symbolizes that you are simply bad ppl, and winning does not change any of that, that somehow it magically transforms you into a good guy, unless you’re a real superficial thinker. Just like the greedy filthy rich CEO bureaucrat who has won wealth and his high position in the corporate order, doesn’t just mean that he’s not a sleazeball.

    Patrick Riley is a snake, James is a traitor, Wade is a goody-two-shoes, and Bosh is another traitor. The rest are just talentless leaches on the squad. Oh and the populace of Miami are rather arrogant as well. Yeah I’m saying that Miami sux!

    • hnirobert3 - May 26, 2011 at 7:56 AM

      I feel bad for you. :(

  7. edweird0 - May 26, 2011 at 1:27 AM

    @muhangis How you manage to live in such a delusional world is beyond me. Come June, it won’t matter how much you hate on us. We’ll be too busy enjoying our parade on biscayne while your team will be busy scrambling to pick someone up during free agency. Dude, get it thru your little fucking skull ‘THEHEATAREBETTERTHANYOURTEAM’ and it’s gunna be like that for the next couple years so keep the hate coming ;)

  8. 1historian - May 26, 2011 at 6:56 AM

    James left Cleveland because it was obvious to him that the management there was not going to get the players he had to have around him to compete for a ring.

    With the exception of Michael Jordan, every single player on the Chicago Bulls roster from 1991-1998 and every single coach in those 8 years was brought to Chicago by Jerry Krause. The formula was simple, disarmingly so – build the team around the best player. The position he plays is not important.

    I never have been, am not now and never will be a fan of Pat Riley, but he understands this. He was a smart player, he was a smart coach and he is a smart GM. His best player was DWade, and last summer Riley had the once-in-a-lifetime chance to pull off a coup such as the league has never seen. And he did it.

    Last summer’s TV reality show – ‘The Decision’ was tasteless – James has acknowledged that and apologized for it more than once. The bread and circuses show they pulled off after that with the smoke and other nonsense introducing the big three was equally tasteless. (Unless of course you are a Miami fan).

    Now it falls to me and others like me to root for whatever team takes the court against Miami.

    Go Mavericks.

    • metalhead65 - May 26, 2011 at 8:00 AM

      if one more says he left the cavs because they would get players to help I will scream! first if he they never made a move without his approval and secondly if he was so concerned about getting better players why did he have to have a max. contact in his last deal with the cavs?if those players around him were so bad why did they have the best record for 2or 3 years?he was not playing 1 on 5 and the team had to pay those guys to right? so if he was all that concerned he could have taken less so they could get somebody else right? and nobody would sign with the cavs because he would not commit to staying longer than his contract so he had no intention of staying whether they won it all or not.

      • borderline1988 - May 26, 2011 at 8:44 AM

        “and nobody would sign with the cavs because he would not commit to staying longer than his contract so he had no intention of staying whether they won it all or not.”

        Exactly! Cleveland was so bad without Lebron that noone in their right mind would sign with them unless Lebron was guaranteed to stay.
        I can’t understand how people could think that the Cavs players surrounding Lebron were decent in any sense because they won 60+ games 2 years in a row. The Cavs roster was awful (similar to Miami a few years back). They didn’t have a single legitimate NBA starter on their team, besides for Jamison (and Shaq I guess, but come on!) who came in the middle of the season and didn’t play very well.

        They had some good role players who would look great coming off another team’s bench (Delonte West, Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, Verajao, etc.), but these are not starters on a championship caliber team. Not even close.

        If you look at the other elite teams in the NBA, there is simply no comparison. The talent level on the Celtics, Mavs, Bulls, Lakers, Thunder and Spurs was far beyond anything that was on that Cavs roster.
        Considering how good those teams are, how could you expect the Cavs to compete with the likes of Verajao, Ilgauskus, WIlliams, Parker as your starters?

    • philtration - May 26, 2011 at 10:40 AM

      Bull.
      The Cav’s player moves and even the hiring of the head coach were all done with LeBron’s input. He played a big part in the team’s make up and trying to re-write history is for desperate losers.

      By the way…. saying that when people dislike you means that they want to be you is retarded.
      Going out of your way to defend a person that you will never even meet and making excuses for them is the real clue that you want to be them.
      LeBron James does not even want you close to his car let alone have a personal relationship with you.

      Get out of your little fantasy world already.

      • philtration - May 26, 2011 at 10:50 AM

        Yes Heat fans…. vote thumbs done to a fact about LeBron that happened before he even came to Miami.
        You can change the world!
        Now that American Idol and Dancing with the Stars is done you can spend more time here voting on comments just like a 12 year-old girl.

      • edweird0 - May 26, 2011 at 1:36 PM

        And going out of your to hate on someone you don’t even know nor ever will is any different?

  9. packymalley - May 26, 2011 at 7:42 AM

    LBJ is certainly one of the best players in the league, he is a beast! But he is also a quitter. Game 5 last year was the strangest thing I ever saw in professional sports. Because of that I can’t root for the Heat. Come on Chicago…Go Mavs! I think it will be good for the NBA if Miami does not win a title. I think the damage has already been done, players are going to try and set up their own super teams. However, there will never be another trio like LBJ, Wade & Bosh. It would have been great if Boston knocked them out. If they fail this year and the next two it will super exciting basketball to watch them fail.

    • 1historian - May 26, 2011 at 10:30 AM

      I think it’s inaccurate to call him a quitter. In the last few championship level games he has been one heck of a closer.
      What is happening is that these 3 highly talented players are learning to play together, and that is scary – to the rest of the league and to non-Miami fans, of which I am one.
      As for getting other players – the core of that team – Wade James and Bosh – are all between 26-28 years old, and it’s not difficult to imagine this team being dominant for a good 5 years or so. Given that it’s not difficult to imagine that being the attraction for other players – complimentary players – to the team.

      Hope I’m wrong

  10. southbeachtalent - May 26, 2011 at 9:18 AM

    Look in the mirror you losers are saying?? hahahahahahaha You are hilarious. I am so glad we kicked the crap out of old ass Boston. Only guy with any kind of class on that team is Allen and their coach. As for the rest of you bums on here, hate all you want, let every Heat victory be a punch in the face, let every LeBron dunk be a kick in your stomach. And let the inevitable championship(s) be the ultimate STFU. Bayless, Barkley, Bucher, Miller, Grousbeck all of you are going to have your hearts crushed when the Heat hoist that O’Brien.

    philturd, 1historian, packymalley, and the rest of you may I suggest: heat-haters.groups.cbssports.com. That way you guys and the rest of your kind (haters) can cry as a group and vent as you watch the Heat crush the competition.

    jordinh, you are comparing LeBron to the best basketball player ever, that in it self is a compliment. Your reaching buddy. Hell LeBron’s not even the best player…it’s Rose…hahahahahahahahaha

    So all you haters, watch tonight as LeBron shows who the real MVP is.

    Celtics…..R.I.P.

    • philtration - May 26, 2011 at 10:47 AM

      “We” kicked the crap out of Boston?
      No… “you” did not do anything to Boston or any other team.

      The Heat are not “we” and they are certainly not “you”.
      Do you believe that these guys are a part of you or your community?
      Ask the people in Cleveland and Toronto if LeBron and Bosh are “we” or are they really “they”.
      They play in the NBA for money and if you tried to knock on their door you would have the police there in a heartbeat.

      Referring to the local sports team as “we” is a sure sign of a pathetic attempt to take credit for something that you had no part of.
      You are delusional.

      • southbeachtalent - May 26, 2011 at 11:11 AM

        phil that was pathetic…as usual.

        knock on their door?? dude you’re plain retarded.

        NEWS FLASH PEOPLE********* players play for money in the NBA********************

        And yes they are part of our community…they play for the MIAMI Heat. I do understand as many of you broken-heatred fans dont, that they can pick up and leave. Happens all the time. But while they’re here I will enjoy it.

        And I will also have to disagree with your last rediculous statement. A sure sign of being pathetic is hating and posting irrelevant uninformed comments on EVERY Miami Heat story. That, is indeed PATHETIC.

    • heat256 - May 26, 2011 at 12:40 PM

      Don’t bother with Phil. Bitter and sad uninformed and probably unemployed person who offers little to nothing of substance in basketball related matters. I am still waiting for it to say anything remotely basketball related. Probably won’t happen. Oh well. Hope MIA closes them out tonight. They keep up the defensive intensity and execture well on the boards and offensively they have a chance. CHI is gonna give them everything they have though. Should be a great game.

    • bsandcs - May 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM

      i hate when people spell ridiculous “rediculous”. it’s i a pretty simple word yet i guess some people never got past using inventive spelling.

  11. weston2010 - May 26, 2011 at 9:35 AM

    Based on how the owner of the Cavs “dissed” and hated on LBJ, it was a great decision that LBJ left the Cavs. The owner sounded like a slave master who never appreciated that LBJ made him a boat load of dineros -filling his arena every night for 7 years.
    So LBJ read the cards correctly.
    I say may the team that plays the best win the NBA championship.
    Hate is a loser mentality, Hate gives feet to things like, murder, terrorism, bigotry, robbery.
    Why go there, Show love to your fellow human beings and then there will be peace in the world. That is truly what is important for survival

  12. fern361mia - May 26, 2011 at 10:19 AM

    Listen up Pippen was the #5 over all pick by seattle in 1987 he was traded to the bulls pippen was a great player . And Lbj did not give up 30 mill , but even if he did thats not a bad thing.

    • jordinh - May 26, 2011 at 11:01 AM

      Right and wrong, I meant to say “pick” and not “round”.
      But YES, LBJ did turn down 30+ million to play in Miami.

      • southbeachtalent - May 26, 2011 at 11:13 AM

        what a selfish bastard….

  13. coltsfanindc - May 26, 2011 at 2:12 PM

    olet me get this straight heat fans, according to muhangis we’re bad ppl cuz we root for a particular team. so pittsurgh steeler fans the cheered big ben are great? wow!!! what crime did lebron wade and bosh commit? and i love when ppl throw Jordan in the mix. what HOF player was alongside lebron? jordan had 2 at one point. barkley had 3. plz dont say shaq either, we’ve which part of his career hez in.

  14. david8726 - May 26, 2011 at 4:45 PM

    Your tears sustain us, Boston fans.

  15. jordinh - May 26, 2011 at 11:24 PM

    Watch DIRK Skywalker destroy Darth-WADEr and the dark forces of Queen JAMES and the cHEATers.
    Common Mavs. Right here right now!

  16. coltsfanindc - May 27, 2011 at 1:50 AM

    @jordinh

    “…the fact that resort to name calling makes you a bufoon!”

    isnt that a bit hypocritical?

  17. kilroy465 - May 27, 2011 at 12:18 PM

    Let the people hate…go ahead and Boo all you want. It won’t change the fact the the Miami Heat are the elite team.Why does everyone(except the fans) hate LeBron. He left a bad team for a NBA Finals team. Took 30 million less so they could get a supporting cast arond them. If you don’t believe that, then look at the Cavs this past year and think. LBJ carried them as far as he could. Now he will carry the Heat to the O’Brian trophy. All the hate makes them stronger so please keep those Boo’s coming.

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