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Report: Minnesota dangling No. 2 pick, Pacers interested

May 19, 2011, 5:09 PM EDT


It makes a lot of sense for the Timberwolves to be shopping the No. 2 pick in the draft, which makes the numerous reports it is happening easy to believe. That pick is either going to be Derrick Williams — a likely four who maybe can play the three — or now-rising Turkish power forward Enes Kanter. The Timberwolves have Kevin Love, they don’t need a power forward. And they don’t need another young project player, they need some stable veteran leadership.

But the Wolves are not giving that pick away either, tweets Alex Kennedy of Hoopsworld.

The Minnesota Timberwolves are shopping the #2 pick, but it sounds like they’re asking for a lot in return.

As they should. You don’t start by asking for what you will settle for, you start by asking for the moon.

Which brings us to rumored talks between the Pacers and Timberwolves, as tweeted by Sam Amico at Fox Sports.

Pacers are ones making seriously play for No. 2. Granger is being mentioned. So are Rubio and Beasley.

That would be pretty monster. And interesting, apparently Minnesota would get the perimeter threat they want in Granger — a former All-Star who was on the FIBA World Championship team with Love — and Indiana would get Rubio and Williams, two good blocks to start a rebuilding process.

That is just a rumor, and it is the start of the draft day rumor season. There will be a lot more. But look for Minnesota to so something with that No. 2 pick.

(By the way, yes teams can make draft-day trades under the current collective bargaining agreement, which will be in place on draft day and for another week after. However, teams cannot sign draft picks until the new CBA is in place.)

  1. andrejohnsonforpresident - May 19, 2011 at 6:01 PM

    Gah i’m a huge granger fan as I see him as more than a perimeter player.. I’m not sure I like this for a pacers team who did not do so bad in the playoffs. They just had a bug problem, an injury bug problem that is.

  2. snoopy2014 - May 19, 2011 at 6:43 PM

    Seems lopsided for the Pacers. Granger isn’t a top franchise player, but he’s worth more than that.

    So Rubio won’t come to Minnesota, and Larry Bird thinks he’ll hop on a plane to Indiana? Interesting.

    • goforthanddie - May 19, 2011 at 10:31 PM

      Any place is an improvement over Minnesota. Except maybe the Clippers, but they do have Blake.

      • snoopy2014 - May 19, 2011 at 10:42 PM

        See I thought Rubio didn’t want to come over because of the city and the “cold.” But yeah if he’s judging it on organization, Indiana is probably in better hands than self-destructive Kahn.

  3. jstrizzle - May 19, 2011 at 6:48 PM

    This seems fishy. We are overloaded at the wing so this pick is expendable. We trade that logical pick of a wing player for…….. another wing player? We are also weak at PG so we throw in Rubio as well? As a Minnesota fan I still wouldn’t be surprised.

  4. 00maltliquor - May 20, 2011 at 2:03 AM

    Okay guys, stay with me here on this one…1st off, I am a devout Lakers fan and am by no means wishing to blow up our proven roster just ’cause we couldn’t get it done this year, but how about this for a craaaazy scenario…. Since the Lakers are said to be looking to get younger and more athletic and get a younger PG, and the ‘Wolves are willing to give up the 2nd AND Rubio for a veteran who can run in Kurt Rambis’ triangle offense, how about trading Pau Gasol who 1. Knows Rambis and the triangle 2.Is a proven vet who will imediatly fill their biggest hole which is the C position and will be a nightmare combo of Gasol and Love. Rubio gets to go to his precious big market next to Kobe in LA and will move to The States for that! We get a younger, exciting PG of the future and draft the young athletic Derrick Williams (Who i feel is gonna be better than many of you think) and some other big in the throw in (Maybe a combo of Tolliver and Pekovic, a 6″11, 290 backup C or Anthony Randolph to make the deal work. I’m pretty sure that would be over 10-12 million from the Wolves side and they can absorb the rest of Pau’s 18 or so million.) Now for the kicker that would make all this nonsence seem just and fair… Bynum and someone like Walton to make the trade amount work for Dwight Howard, who has been said to be acceptive of an LA move. The Magic don’t just lose Howard for nothing and get a young upcoming C in ‘Drew, which will probably happen anyways? If anyone can pull this off, it’s definatly the Lakers Lineup… PG Ricky Rubio, SG Kobe Bryant, SF Derrick Williams, PF Lamar Odom, C Dwight Howard

    • 00maltliquor - May 20, 2011 at 2:13 AM

      Now i know that is, to quote Chris Bosh, “pie in the sky”, but this can actually happen. Not saying that it should…but if LA is really looking to go that route, this would be the move to make. Plus the bench stays in tact so as not to mix it up that bad. I don’t know, what do you Laker fans think of that scenario? It seems legit, 2 stars in Bryant and Howard, youth and athelticism in Williams and Rubio (and maybe Randolph? Is that asking too much from the T wolves, I think not!) and have L.O. stick around plus Shannon Brown and give Devin Ebanks more minutes. I think thats a team to get excited about.

      • snoopy2014 - May 20, 2011 at 2:20 AM

        Hmmm…if it were to go down, it’d help the Lakers for the future. But I think it might hurt their title chances in the present. Rubio and Williams may be good in a few years, but rookies usually don’t come in and contribute seamlessly right away. There’s an adjustment period, especially for PGs. Plus Rubio’s big weakness is his shot, and the Lakers need shooters to clear space for their post game.

        To be honest, I want to see Gasol stay a Laker. But if they did decide to make trades, they could do a lot worse, agreed.

      • 00maltliquor - May 20, 2011 at 2:57 AM

        I feel you snoopy, truthfully i don’t ever want to see Gasol, Bynum, Fisher, Odom or Artest go ever. (Do I even have to mention Kobe?) I love those guys, always have. Just seems like somethings gonna happen though which makes me sad. But I think this will work for now and in the future. We add Howard, still have Odom who plays most of the PF minutes anyways, and Bryant. Williams can’t make us worse than any SF we have now. Plus we would still have Artest and/or Ebanks and Brown could come in and slide Mamba to SF at times. All you are worrying about now is Rubio, but we would still have Fisher and Blake to sub in when Rubio goes wayward so it all works for an immediate title.

  5. LPad - May 20, 2011 at 10:39 AM

    And the reason Indiana wants to start its rebuilding project over is they may get Ricky Rubio? Who will either stay in Europe or back up Collison for the next two years. Maybe, they make this trade for Kantor and put him next to Hibbert, but even then I don’t think Granger would be included.

    Also, this is an example of why bad teams stay bad. Minnesota should just draft Kantor and put him next to Love. The guy’s 6-11, 265, he can play center and give them a low post presence to add to Love’s rebounding and perimeter game. Love could also serve as a mentor because he also entered the league at a young age.

  6. ascherber - May 20, 2011 at 7:37 PM

    Stupid trade for both teams.

    Indiana is not that far away from contending, and Rubio is no lock to be any better than Collison. Williams would be a nice piece, but only if paired with Granger.

    For the Wolves, the BIGGEST weakness they have is that they have NO point guard. Even you think Rubio isn’t coming to Minnesota (which there has been NO credible evidence that he isn’t aside from the erronous east-coast-biased speculation of ESPN and the like), you have to get a PG out of any deal involving Rubio.

  7. awill191 - May 21, 2011 at 4:11 AM

    As a Pacer fan, but also as someone who follows the NBA enough to know what teams lack, let me tell you why I think this trade makes a lot of sense.
    1) The Pacers have TOO MANY wing players (and I mean TRUE wing players). Dunleavy, Granger, George, Stephenson, and Rush are all wing players and have that 2-3 capability.
    2) Most likely, the Pacers would be sending their first round pick with Granger and there may be multiple players involved. The Pacers have a ton of expiring contracts. In fact, they have over $30 mil expiring among 4 players – Dunleavy, Foster, Ford, and Jamaal Tinsley’s crap contract. This means they are willing to take on more players (i.e. Rubio and Beasley along with the pick).
    3) If Minnesota is shipping Beasley, then they do not really have a solid wing player that can be go-to. This is where Kevin Love might actually feel some relief with a consistent scorer (which may be Beasley’s only questionmark).
    4) As has been mentioned, with Williams the likely number 2 pick, his has no real place with Minnesota. Johnson needs a veteran to learn and grow, not another young up-and-comer. The Pacers though, have those expiring contracts which would allow Williams to learn alongside Paul George, Brandon Rush and James Posey. That gives the Pacers a core set of 2-3 for a long time.
    5) In terms of salary, neither one of these teams are in trouble. Both will be under the cap for 2012 and so this deal makes perfect sense because it allows both to bolster their futures and have money for free agent signings to help complete their teams.

    Like it or not, you have to admit this would be beneficial for both teams in the short and long term. The Wolves actually get more immediate impact, but both would have solidified their futures and given themselves money to be active in the present.

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