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The Knicks had a Melo back-up plan: Deron Williams

Apr 2, 2011, 11:30 AM EDT

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Waaaay at the bottom of a Yahoo! Sports report on Greg Oden (still injured!) and his mental state (still depressed!) and his future with the Blazers (still going to get another contract, somehow!) was a quiet little item:

The Utah Jazz had a possible deal in place to send guard Deron Williams to the New York Knicks in a multi-player trade if the Carmelo Anthony deal didn’t go through, a source told Yahoo! Sports. After Anthony was dealt to New York, Williams was traded from Utah to the Nets on Feb. 24.

via Recovering Oden aware of ‘Sam Bowie talk’ – NBA – Yahoo! Sports.

Interesting. So the Knicks theoretically could have had their choice between the two and opted for Melo. If that’s the case, the move looks even worse from a long-term perspective than it does considering the Knicks’ disastrous post-trade plummet in the short-term. Williams cements a top point guard in this league, a position that is rife with elite players and every team is clamoring to obtain one. Melo, on the other hand, is a jump-shooting high-volume combo-forward. This isn’t about how good Melo is; he’s very, very good, an elite player and will have man productive years for the Knicks.

But to have Williams would have given Amar’e Stoudemire a better partner to work with in the pick and roll, and possibly allowed for more money to be available in 2012. Instead, the Knicks stuck their money on one horse, Melo, and are hoping he and Amar’e will develop something amazing in the next few years.

Then again, with Williams still likely to become a free agent in 2012, the Knicks may have their chance to have their cake and eat it, too. But in the meantime, while the Knicks are slumping towards the playoffs, keep in mind it could have been Williams lobbing to Stoudemire.

  1. dysraw1 - Apr 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM

    coulda woulda shoulda, bottom line is we got melo. now we need a point who is more of a passer than a shooter. we really dont need a 20 attempt point guard

  2. denverhoopdreams - Apr 2, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    Wow, Knicks fans should be pissed about this. Wait, they probably wont… most of them don’t even know D-Will is probably..

  3. ohkhan - Apr 2, 2011 at 12:24 PM

    do you realize how long deron williams had been out before wednesday’s game with a wrist injury? Those are all games he would’ve missed for the knicks. so the knicks getting chauncey and melo does look better this year, considering the nets are still considering shutting d-will down at some point. additionally, theres a reason that remark was a small portion of that much larger post and not a bigger story on yahoo, probably not that credible. there are no quotes or anything, just the proverbial “source,” who apparently declined to elaborate on what the knicks would have even traded.

    • denverhoopdreams - Apr 2, 2011 at 1:51 PM

      Yeah, but it really isn’t a matter of whats happening this year. The Knicks aren’t going to get past the 1st round regardless this year.

      • ohkhan - Apr 2, 2011 at 1:59 PM

        i only mentioned that because of the “disastrous post trade plummet” that the author mentioned, which really hasnt been that disastrous, considering a move in which we traded 4 starters and had to acquire 2 new ones, in season, no pre-season or training camp to work with. look how the heat started in there first 17 games and they had the entire offseason to work together. considering d-will wouldnt have been playing a good amount of games and we likely wouldve given up the same pieces, we would have had an even more disastrous plummet. There’s really no way to analyze whether getting melo over dwill was the right call or not, because we dont know what the knicks are working toward, nor do we know if there was an actually deal in place considering the vagueness of that excerpt. If the knicks end up with cp3 or even if dwill opts out and comes to ny, they would look awfully smart wouldnt they? now of course alot of this depends on the new cba, but nothing is set in stone. donnie walsh, by all accounts, seems to know what hes doing, so as a knick fan i am inclined to trust his decision

  4. cousinrk - Apr 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM

    Hmm…denverhoopdreams, so you are mocking the New York basketball fans knowledge of the game? Bitter much? When we talk about the cities that have produced great players over time I’m sure Denver is right at the top right? I know you love your team so much better without Melo now. You guys are set up to become the 80’s and 90’s Utah Jazz. 5th seed out in round 1 or 2 every year. But as a fan of a team in a city no one cares about and no one watches, I’m sure you’re happy with that. Enjoy mediocrity and having a better record then the Knicks this year, because that’s about all you can hope for in the future. I’m sure when Chandler and Gallo reach free agency they’ll want to stay in DENVER as opposed to going to a real b-ball city. Good luck with that.

    • tubal22 - Apr 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM

      You forgot the two Finals appearances the jazz made in ’96 and ’97. I’d rather be the 80’s and 90’s jazz than the 80’s and 90’s knicks. And I’d especially rather be the 80’s and 90’s and 00’s jazz than the knicks.

      Time will tell what the knicks do, but if it’s anything like the last 10 years, may God help you.

      • denverhoopdreams - Apr 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM

        The Knicks will not see a single finals appearance with Amare and Melo. Mark my words. I’m not even bitter that Melo is gone like this fool said. I’m one of the many fans who would heckel Melo every game I went to about his lack of defense and ignorant shot selection.

        And with Melo we have never been anything but a 1st or 2nd round out except for the year we got destroyed by the Lakers in the Conference finals.

      • LPad - Apr 5, 2011 at 1:53 PM

        Knicks made two Finals appearances in the 90s as well and are coming out of their bad year period. Jazz are beginning theirs. Unless you really believe Devin Harris is the future.

    • mojowheelz - Apr 3, 2011 at 9:40 AM

      What a moronic east coast statement….ever heard of David Thompson, Alex English…or perhaps Kiki Vandeweghe. You just proved your basketball IQ. Who was the last great player from the New York Knicks…Patrick Ewing??? You had to raid someone elses cupboard to get another great player in Melo, because the inept Knicks organization couldn’t find one with all of the high draft picks they have had recently. I will take the new Nuggets to your Knicks any day of the week. Who do you guard when 6 players a night are putting up double digits, assist averages are in the mid-twenties and so are fast break points per game. I loved Melo when he was here, but George Karls coachng covered up some large problems that occurr with Melo on a team. He REQUIRES the ball in isolation in order to be effective, and that takes touches, rythym and confidence away from his teammates. I think New York may be successful with Melo eventually, but not with D’antoni as coach…and after they build up the depth they traded away.
      I think there are plenty of players whose egos do not require them to play in New York or on another big market team and will do so if the reward is winning. The winning team atmosphere in Denver will encourage the players we have to resign, but also lure other players who want to play the game the right way. The new CBA will make it difficlut to have more than one superstar on a team, and be able to afford the depth required to win a championship without major financial sacrifices from the superstars. I will be looking forward to that day since I have been enjoying watching the Nuggets brand of team basketball.

      • LPad - Apr 5, 2011 at 1:49 PM

        He meant players that grew up in NY not played for NY. A lot more players come from NY than Denver.

  5. denverhoopdreams - Apr 2, 2011 at 1:48 PM

    Your assumptions are pretty much incorrect. But what would you know… you’re a Knicks fan.

  6. dysraw1 - Apr 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM

    denver is a great basketball city ive always been a fan, from daivd thompson & bobby jones. thru the alex english era really good b ball. just 1 thing absolutly no rings. so until u guys get 1, leave my knicks alone

    • denverhoopdreams - Apr 2, 2011 at 5:12 PM

      I’ll leave your Knicks alone when they get one with STAT and Melo-Defense.

  7. purplenurpls - Apr 2, 2011 at 5:20 PM

    Nice to know that Knicks back up plan was Deron Williams. Also that’s so crazy how the Blazers keep on pouring money into Oden who is just way too injury prone.

    Anyways, this article is just so horrible. Sorry to say, but it’s true. I like how the writer brought somethings to our attention about Oden, and about the Deron trade if Carmelo Anthony’s trade fell through and what not. One BIG thing this writer didn’t think about before writing this article, is that DERON WILLIAMS is injured (with some wrist issues). Deron is basically a game time decision for each and every game for the Nets!! I know the Nets dont want to push Deron too much considering their season and that they are not in the playoffs and whatnot.

    Here is a quote from the article- “…while the Knicks are slumping towards the playoffs, keep in mind it could have been Williams lobbing to Stoudemire.” ARE U SERIOUS!!! I agree that Deron Williams would be a a good fit for Amare, but how can you write an article of this sort when Deron is having all these wrist issues!!
    Go Knicks ! Go Amare! Go Melo!! They will play GREAT together, just give it some TIME!

  8. dysraw1 - Apr 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM

    its been almost 40 joints we r due, thats the excitement of entering the post season. u never know what could happen. they said cleveland was a lock last year

    • craigw24 - Apr 2, 2011 at 9:22 PM

      You are right — it has been almost 40 years. That’s why NY fans shouldn’t bag on Denver fans about their not having any rings. 40 years ago many of today’s bloggers weren’t even born and there certainly was no 24/7 ESPN to flash the highlights of Earl Monroe and Walt Frasier.

      Both cities will get into the playoffs, but at least the Denver fans are demanding something beyond the 1st round.

      • dysraw1 - Apr 2, 2011 at 9:53 PM

        oh the knicks just want to get in yeah right

      • rapmusicmademedoit - Apr 4, 2011 at 6:11 PM

        Denver, who would want to be there over New York, u b crazy dude.

      • rapmusicmademedoit - Apr 4, 2011 at 6:15 PM

        When the Hornets came to town a fan had a sign that read
        CP3, you next.
        Don’t worry NY peeps, we will get a point soon.

  9. stinkfingers - Apr 2, 2011 at 11:17 PM

    This is exactly why the the Knicks are the the Knicks.

  10. freenbatips - Apr 3, 2011 at 1:40 AM

    Hard for Melo to work with the Knicks , Welcome to NJ !

  11. ocgunslinger - Apr 3, 2011 at 9:56 AM

    Amare is the player I respect and wish that he could have had Williams with him over Melo. Unless Melo matures and evolves his game as did Kobe over the years the Knicks only hope for Amare is that Donnie Walsh adds to his resume with some magic tricks to overcome the one dimensional game of Anthony. I really would like to see the Knicks become a factor again overcoming the idiot owner and Isiah Thomas reign. Good luck NY fans you deserve it.

  12. dankyb - Apr 3, 2011 at 7:55 PM

    Depression isn’t a joke

    • purplenurpls - Apr 5, 2011 at 10:46 AM

      Oh ya…definitely, I almost lost my ex due to depression. This writer is such a bafoon. I can not believe this article. The author must have been on drugs or something.
      (I posted a comment a few days ago on this web page if you want to check it out. This writer is absolutely stupid!!)

  13. LPad - Apr 5, 2011 at 1:47 PM

    Unless DWill was going to sign a contract extension, which the article doesn’t mention than the Knicks made the right choice. Also, what were the Knicks going to give up. I imagine the package would be close to the same since the Nets package was close to the same, so they would have lost about the same amount of talent for one great player not signed long term. Instead of getting a great player signed long term and a good player for two years. Hmmm… seems pretty obvious why DWill was the backup plan. Losing Gallo, Chandler, and Felton for two years of DWill is not a good trade.

    • denverhoopdreams - Apr 7, 2011 at 5:13 PM

      Except Chandler or Gallo wouldn’t have gone in the Nets trade. It would’ve been Felton and one or the other. Mozgov probably would of even stayed.

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