Comments on: Should the “rip” move be legal?

By: icu84bs

icu84bs — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:59:41 +0000

Dumb replies like this suck.

By: Michael Pina

Michael Pina — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:13:59 +0000

My take on the rip move…http://shakyankles.com/2011/03/30/essay-basketballs-rip-move/

By: Colin Zvosec

Colin Zvosec — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:05:39 +0000

Interesting point. The way I read it was that it is more akin to a player catching the ball on the run and having a defender try to slide underneath them to take a charge. If the offensive player is going straight up into their shooting motion, and contact is made, that means the defensive player had their hand/arm in the offensive player’s space.

Its one thing for Chauncey Billups to jump 5 feet to the right into someone who’s trying to avoid him and getting a call, and another for Durant to rip straight up into his normal shooting motion.

I guess it just comes down to a ref’s judgment of the situation. If the player appears to be actively trying to create contact, then don’t call anything. But if they are legitimately shooting the ball, and contact is made regardless of who is initiating it, then you probably have to call it.

By: pudgalvin

pudgalvin — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:44:37 +0000

So he get’s more free throw attempts for less trips to the rim? Gotcha.

By: momo988

momo988 — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:22:08 +0000

The difference between Kobe and everyone else is about 8 years of age. Kobe doesn’t go to the rim as much as he does, which brings the denominator way down.

By: oumoonunit

oumoonunit — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:34:17 +0000

It would get you decked on the streets of D.C., but it is a legitimate move by a savvy offensive player. The defender, in the rulebook, is in charge of allowing a shooter to have his necessary space. K.D. just knows how to exploit that better than anyone else. It is still better to foul than let him bomb uncontested threes.

By: pudgalvin

pudgalvin — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:31:24 +0000

The guy who’s article you cite misses the point. It’s not like if the guy were to dribble around a guy, it’s if he were to drive straight at him without the defender moving. That’d be a charge. If a defenders hand already owns the space (like a charge), should an offensive player be allowed to create contact. It really begs the question of how close you can get to a player without touching him and have it not be a foul.

By: yankeesjetsknicksrangers

yankeesjetsknicksrangers — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:08:29 +0000

Legit move by smart players who can get that call, don’t get caught reaching.

By: pudgalvin

pudgalvin — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:38:25 +0000

I think the much more interesting thing here is that giant 2 by Kobe’s name. Then, as you slowly go down the superstar scale, the number’s get smaller and smaller. I know that’s how the NBA works, but this is some pretty good data to back it up.

By: rapmusicmademedoit

rapmusicmademedoit — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:46:38 +0000

NBA refs suck