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Knicks Walsh under pressure to make ‘Melo deal, but Nets have upper hand

Feb 17, 2011, 8:44 PM EDT

Carmelo Anthony

Knicks fans are in “Carmelo Anthony or bust” mode — they want him and they want him now. Get him and the Knicks win the title, the housing market will rebound, and the Dodo bird will return from extinction. Well, that’s what it sounds like on sports talk radio anyway.

Knicks decision maker Donnie Walsh is playing it cool. He’ll trade a few parts to get Anthony but he’s not going to gut the team because he understands that if ‘Melo really wants to be a Knick the Nuggets will have to deal with him. Or, he can just sign him during free agency. Why gut the team when you don’t have to?

Because the owner wants you to or you don’t get to keep your job.

ESPN’s Marc Stein explains as part of an update on the ‘Melo situation.

Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni and Knicks president Donnie Walsh are understandably hesitant to give up too much of New York’s depth to get Melo, as Chris Sheridan spelled… but one source well acquainted with both teams’ strategies echoes the rising notion that Walsh might have no choice if Knicks owner James Dolan takes a Melo-at-all-costs stance, as many observers anticipate. The source said: “Don’t forget Donnie is still trying to get a contract extension.” Translation: Getting Melo now, no matter what the cost, might be the clincher to get that extension.

That all may be moot, because if the Nets are seriously back in the game the Knicks don’t have the hand to win the pot.

The Nets and Nuggets are talking and currently the deal being discussed is Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Renaldo Balkman, Melvin Ely and Shelden Williams for Derrick Favors, Derrick Harris, Troy Murphy, Ben Uzoh and four first rounders, according to a tweet from Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo.

Not sure the rebuilding Nets will really give up four first round picks — even with ‘Melo there will be a lot of rebuilding to do in New Jersey and Brooklyn, they will need those picks.

That said, if the package is anything like that, it doesn’t matter what Dolan and Knicks fans want, they can’t come close to matching it. The entire decision will come down to Anthony, after he meets with Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov.

Except, Prokhorov’s people are saying he has not changed his mind on talking to Denver. That’s a little tough to swallow, although he may try to drive a harder bargain than the one listed above. But that deal gives the Nets some powerful pieces as it prepares to head to Brooklyn in two seasons. Good businessmen don’t walk away from a good deal.

Of course, it’s only a good deal if Anthony signs an extension with the Nets. Ultimately, that is what this comes down to.

But it’s always come down to Anthony. It has for a long time. It’s just now time for him to really, finally make a decision.

  1. dayrunner9 - Feb 17, 2011 at 8:49 PM

    This has officially jumped the shark into Baghdad Bob territory. Doesnt anyone play poker? This ALL Denver f.o. noise.

    - Walsh is making the decisions.
    - If Melo wanted to sign with the Nets, he’d be there already.

  2. zackd2 - Feb 17, 2011 at 9:32 PM

    So the team will be Always Injured Harris, Morrow, Melo, Humpgries, and Brook “6 Reb hit me in the head this game” Lopez?

    Ha! Yeah I bet Melo signs up for that

    • zackd2 - Feb 17, 2011 at 9:33 PM

      Replace Harris with One-and-Done Billups who isnt going to want to stay.

  3. waalbeefree - Feb 17, 2011 at 10:11 PM

    Carmelo wants the opportunity to win a championship!!! He won’t have a chance in NJ!!! NY can pick him up now to better their chances this year in the playoffs, or Carmelo can sign as a free agent to prevent losing the good role players who have helped the Knicks to become relevant again. (w/Stoudemire of course)
    The Knicks would only have to acquire a 2 & 5 to complete a team that will compete with the rest of the East Elite!!!
    I’m hoping for the later, but will take Chauncey with Melo and work on filling the holes in the team later.

  4. downtowndanny - Feb 17, 2011 at 10:57 PM

    relax Knick fans, you’re going to get Melo, and Steve Nash will be reunited with Amare. Walsh can’t be dumb enough to trade away his whole team, the fix is in, just ride out the season and get ready. Good luck getting tix tho…

  5. slmike23 - Feb 18, 2011 at 12:05 AM

    I feel as if the Lakers had a shot at Carmelo they should of pulled the trigger. It may of hindered them this year, but next year go out and get a solid defensive center. Trade or if you have to cut Artest. I love Fisher, but show him tape of Rondo, Rose, Westbrook, Miller, etc. burning him on a nightly basis and maybe he will be willing to accept a bench role. Blake’s not the answer either. I feel as Fish is getting a pass.
    Do the above or hit Ron-Ron over the head so he’ll play lol

  6. dannyblaze62 - Feb 18, 2011 at 7:06 AM

    So the two comments made (posted) were deleted because it shed light on this being a non-story?

    Wow Kurt. It isn’t surprising from what I have read that you choose to assume that your story really has legs and that NJ has any real shot. Why not state the obvious? Why play this game with the fans; thinking it will result in some type of following?

    We all know how this will play out and you are just as guilty as all he rest for trying to feed us stories like this. This time I won’t include the few choice words that made you want to erase from the blog.

    For all those reading, I posted the reasons why Melo would be a Knick and how he controls his destiny. The above mentioned Kurt Helin choose to have the two posts removed. He knows about as much as you or I.

    All speculative fodder.

    Try not to eradicate this comment.

    • Kurt Helin - Feb 18, 2011 at 10:06 AM

      dannyblaze62, I have approved this and one other comment from you. Both of those comments were held for moderation by the system (we have a number of controls on the comments to keep swear words out, keep Viagra ads out, so on and so on). Steps to try to keep the spam and a–holes out, basically. Because of that I have to approve a number of the comments that get posted and that can take time because I do things like sleep.

      I did delete a number of comments held for moderation in this thread (not sure if yours were among them, I did not look at the names) because they contained a number of curse words. Frankly, I use those words but not on this site. Not in the comments. Anything deleted was because of that and not because of an opinion expressed. You are more than welcome to disagree with me. You’re wrong, of course. But this is America and you have the right to be wrong :-)

      • dannyblaze62 - Feb 18, 2011 at 11:37 AM

        Of course you have to say I am wrong Kurt, if not I could not read you anymore. I don’t expect you to roll over a succumb to pressure of any posts.

        However, You and I both know where Melo is headed and have known for some time (see part of the reasons mentioned above or below depending where this gets placed). You would be wrong to say that you don’t know and part of the article is speculative at best.

        Opinions are an everyday part of journalism and you are no different from the rest. The scenario in NY in 2012 should be Stat, Melo and CP3.

        My twitter page says it all. NY’s big three. See you at the Garden.

  7. dannyblaze62 - Feb 18, 2011 at 7:21 AM

    Those reason are:

    1) Anthony does NOT want to play for the Nyets. Brooklyn or not, it’s not THE City.
    2) No way NJ guts the core of their team AND drops four firsts to Denver. They would be stuck in (insert own ugly word) for years to come. Anthony will not win there.
    3) No way the PA will allow a NFL style franchise tag in the NBA. Not gonna happen.
    4) Chris Paul is NOT going to Jersey. NJ’s market is small ( even if they are headed to Brooklyn, the appeal of that is smaller than you think)
    5) If you think this doesn’t have the “LaLa” effect, you are misleading yourself. She needs the Garden and The Lights on Broadway for her career as much as Melo does.
    6) There are real superstars on Jersey’s roster (think real hard).
    7) Finally, there is NO place like playing in the Garden except…..none. 8) Denver has no real leverage at all. Bank on it.

    Add more reasons like marketing, endorsements, money and a way better chance to win with the trio of STAT, Melo and Paul in 2012.

    Its about to go down in the East.

  8. dannyblaze62 - Feb 18, 2011 at 7:25 AM

    Reason number 6) Correction: NO REAL superstars on the NJ team. I don’t care about potential. We are talking about the now.

  9. smashmouthrb25 - Feb 18, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    @dannyblaze62
    I couldn’t agree with you more…I really do not feel like any person in the NBA is worth 4 first round draft picks…I almost wouldn’t give up for 1st round picks for Bron or even D12…(almost)…gutting the Nets team will only make them worse…this means Melo would be against the East by himself…We have seen many times what the Celtics do to teams that have ONE superstar…(cough cough Cleveland I am pointing to you) I am a huge Melo fan…but simply having him on a team with mediocre players who can barely post 10 pts a game is extremely dumb. But I do believe if the deal that was being discussed a few weeks ago with Billups and Rip reuniting in Jersey with Melo was a decent one…Melo would at least be surrounded by players who know how to win…but at the same time Rip coming off of screens all the time will take away from Melo in the isolation…but either way…Melo needs to go to NY…and CP3 made it official at his wedding that he will join him there…the new big 3… 1,3,15

    • dannyblaze62 - Feb 18, 2011 at 11:53 AM

      @smashmouthrb25. Thanks for the post and glad there are other smart pure BB fans out there that can see through the smoke.

      As far as what number Melo would wear I don’t doubt that number 15, because there is this guy who used to play for the Knicks who kinda has his number in the rafters at the Garden. Goes by the name of Earl Monroe.

      Curious to see how they do that. Wonder if they would bestow a 23 on him being that he is also a NIKE guy and the other retired 23 was also from Brooklyn. It would be a huge marketing move.

      The only other things I could think of was 51 or 6. I doubt the latter because of (cough, cough pointing to that guy down south).

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