Comments on: Jerry Sloan’s old-school thoughts on Miami’s trio

By: truprof

truprof — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:27:48 +0000

Jerry Sloan has the credibility to say what he thinks. He’s been there and done that as a player and as a coach. If people disagree, let them check their cred against his.

By: hnirobert3

hnirobert3 — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:34:02 +0000

One last thought… do you think Carl Crawford would consider a lesser offer from the Tampa Bay Rays because Florida has no state tax? Do you think Karlos Danbsy and Brandon Marshall would have accepted lesser deals from the Dolphins because of no state tax?

Yes, it’s an added bonus and helps with taking a lesser offer, but these guys undeniably took less money for the betterment of the team, not because they’d make it all back with no state tax. If that was the case, Lebron would’ve gone to Dallas and Bosh to Houston since they would’ve been offered max deals (Dallas would’ve needed to do a sign and trade) and still gotten the no state tax benefit.

By: hnirobert3

hnirobert3 — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:17:26 +0000

You think so? Do you think Dwight Howard is going to take a little less than the max to stay in Florida because of no state tax? You’re kidding yourself if you think so. These guys took less money to get on the same team as well as be able to afford a few other pieces (specifically Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem). SI has a pretty interested article on the Heat’s role players and how things went down with putting the team together. Here is the excerpt of how they got Haslem and Miller on the team.

“With James and Bosh on the way last summer, Haslem assumed that the Heat had run out of cap space for him. He went to his exit meeting at American Airlines Arena in the second week of July and told Riley that he was accepting a five-year, $34 million contract from the Nuggets. Riley asked Haslem to leave the room, and in the hour that followed, Wade volunteered to shave part of his salary for Haslem, then persuaded James and Bosh to do the same. They needed Haslem as a leader, a rebounder and also a recruiter. Haslem accepted a five-year deal for $20 million and then persuaded Miller, his Florida roommate who had never been past the first round of the playoffs, to join Miami as a free agent for $30 million over five years.”

These guys are sooooo selfish.

By: hnirobert3

hnirobert3 — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:08:20 +0000

LBJ said it best, he didn’t want to be in his 30′s with no championships and bad knees. Look at the Cavs now. They’re terrible. Look at the Lakers and take away Kobe. Are they winning a Championship? Probably not, but they’re still a playoff team and probably getting to the second round if not the Western Conference Finals. Take away one of the Celts’ big 3 (or big 4, since Rondo’s a beast) and they’re still contenting in the playoffs. The Cavs, without Lebron, are a complete joke and the pieces they put around LBJ were bad. Period. End of story.

By: hnirobert3

hnirobert3 — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:04:59 +0000

Then his legacy is tarnished FOR-EVER (said like the kid from the Sandlot).

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By: delfi2

delfi2 — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:21:17 +0000

Okay, I will agree with you there. However, do you think all three joined the Heat for….what?

Thank you for your response, Kurt.

By: tubal22

tubal22 — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:28:48 +0000

All three of them will end up making more because there is no income tax in Florida. This crap that they made a sacrifice is some media BS. They get paid more, they party more, they take a few years off and rack up the championship rings (they thought).

By: habibthomas

habibthomas — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:15:32 +0000

Lebron could have won with the Cavs. It wasnt as if when he was with the Cavs that the had the worst record every year, they were one of the top teams. The Cavs squad we see today is basically the same team (almost sans Lebron) that went to the Finals years back. So if he left because he thought he couldnt win then he was looking for an easier route, but he if he doesnt win in Miami then what?

By: Kurt Helin

Kurt Helin — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 04:35:41 +0000

What I’m saying is that the money and rules are different now for LeBron than they were for Jerry West or even large parts of Jordan’s career. The money is different for players. That changes the dynamics of decisions.

By: passerby23

passerby23 — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 04:09:37 +0000

I’ve got to agree with Sloan on this one. Even if they win three or four championships, it’ll always be “well, that’s what they should’ve done.” If they lose, they’re the goats. There is a certain value to appreciate for sticking it out even if things don’t go your way and being loyal to a franchise. Lebron still held the ability to attract big names to Cleveland. It seems today if players don’t win a championship in a few years, they’re out. I think the reality is Lebron didn’t want to look like a playoff failure any longer after two disappointing playoff exits when they were favored to win.

By: delfi2

delfi2 — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 03:35:27 +0000

Money changes everything? All three took less money to be in Miami together. How do you justify that statement? Endorsements? He (LeBron) could have been the ‘king’ of marketing in NY, no? That’s what all the pundits were saying anyhow.

Moreover, Jerry Sloan speaks in cirlces without identifying crap…coach talk. Grappling the fence while trying to make a point, I guess about how LeBron left C-town. Pathetic, thought Sloan was above the popular stance about this subject. Nonetheless, Lebron will not put you on his ‘list’.!!
Perfect timing too, right before they travel to Utah for a tilt!! Haha—smart coach? Or another blow hard?
-Mike D (Davie, Fl) —if you had any doubts….

By: thestudiokida

thestudiokida — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 23:23:45 +0000

I don’t agree. Winning is exactly what will make them more popular.

By: d57fan

d57fan — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:41:07 +0000

blah blah blah blah BLAH! How much more of this do we have to take?? It’s over, people don’t much like the Heat, big deal…these incessant articles aren’t gong to change that…and neither will winning. The Heat winning and show-boating will make people outside Miami hate them even MORE.