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Hornets-Raptors trade official, as weird as we thought

Nov 20, 2010, 3:21 PM EDT

Toronto Raptors v Orlando Magic

Well it’s done, as every major outlet has confirmed the deal is done. The Toronto Raptors will send Jarrett Jack, Marcus Banks, and David Andersen to the Hornets for Peja Stojakovic and Jerryd Bayless from the Hornets.

For some reason which is just escaping me at the moment, everyone’s saying the Hornets “won” this trade. For starters, looking at trades in terms of winners and losers is a bit ridiculous, since every move is made within the context of a bigger plan. Secondly, the Hornets have in essence traded a first round pick, the highly valuable expiring contract of Peja Stojakovic, and two available roster spots plus cash for Jarrett Jack. Jack, who has been a fundamental part of the worst defensive team in the NBA and who is paid $15 million over the next three years as a 20-minutes per game backup.

Yeah, that sounds like they got good value.

Not that the Raptors made out like bandits in this either. Even with Peja’s expiring, they now have such huge tradeable assets (Peja’s expiring, the trade exception from Chris Bosh), that they’ll have a hard time getting good value on them. Bayless is a tremendous potential player, but hasn’t been that guy yet. It’s going to take a lot of work to get him where he needs to go, and Jay Triano hasn’t really shown that ability.

What’s the big win here? That the Hornets get a guy who “fits” and who CP3 likes? Couldn’t they have gotten a little more with a huge expiring contract in a CBA downturn year and a talented two-guard with lightning fast speed? Apparently not, but everything else has worked out for New Orleans so far so why start doubting this regime now?t

  1. keegax - Nov 20, 2010 at 7:05 PM

    Watch them trade Jack to the Heat for Chalmers

  2. borderline1988 - Nov 21, 2010 at 10:22 AM

    This is without a doubt a good trade for the Raptors. It won’t exactly put them in the playoffs, but it’s a step in the right direction.
    They got rid of 2 completely useless, non-NBA talent players in Andersen and Banks, and dumped Jack, who is a decent backup PG, but not a starting-calibre PG. As the blogger correctly mentioned, his defense isnt exactly legendary, his athletism is probably a little below average for NBA guards, and he’s not a great shooter or assist/turnover ratio guy. He’s a very very average offensive player, which doesnt cut it as a starting PG. Im not a big Calderon fan either, but at least he has some above average strengths (i.e. passing and shooting) which could work well with certain lineups.

    The Raps receive a huge tradeable asset, and a scoring guard who legitamitely has a chance at being a future starting guard in Toronto, and he’s going to get big minutes every night for the first time in his career.
    I can’t see how this is bad for the Raps. They have to trade away players who wont fit in for the long run and dont have much chance of improving from where they are now, for younger players who have potential, or for picks, or for tradeable assets.
    I like this move – a step in the right direction.

  3. borderline1988 - Nov 21, 2010 at 10:40 AM

    The Raps plan for this season should just be to let Derozan and Barngani shoot all day long, and hope they get better. The problem with Bosh was that he got 75% of the team’s touches, and he’s not the type of player who makes his teammates better.
    If Ed Davis and Bayless work out, the Raps have a decent team with good pieces in Bargnani, Derozan, Bayless, Davis, and even Barbosa, Weems, Kleiza, and Calderon .
    These guys might not get you a championship ring, but they’re all great trade pieces. Colangelo in my opinion has done a terrible job since 2006 (when they had an up and coming superstar and the number one overall pick), but you cant deny his ability to wheel and deal, and he might yet come up with some great trade that will make the Raps a playoff team again.

  4. passerby23 - Nov 21, 2010 at 7:32 PM

    I don’t understand what’s so weird about this trade. Makes sense for both teams.

    For Toronto:
    They move Jack and his contract to NO. Jack clearly wasn’t in the long-term plans and his contract was taking up space that will be needed in the future. They move two roster spots that are quite fillable in Banks and Anderson.

    Meanwhile, they can dump Peja’s large contract at the end of the season and give Bayless – a promising young player – an opportunity to play and blossom with a young team.

    Don’t really see an issue there.

    For NO:
    They obviously saw the team’s potential to make some noise after coming out of the gate strong. They saw an opportunity to strengthen their position now while keeping an eye on the future. Peja’s large salary gets dumped, while Jack provides some veteran leadership and a viable, steady backup to Paul at the point. Talented as Bayless may be, steady he is not. They will likely cut Banks and use Anderson sporadically as a backup big.

    Seems like a win in my book for both teams.

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