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Carmelo Anthony: "I never said I want to play for the Nets."

Oct 4, 2010, 9:43 AM EDT

Thumbnail image for CAnthony_stares.jpgAn exchange yesterday from training camp gives us a little insight into Carmelo Anthony’s thinking.

And how it’s really about moving where he wants, not winning.

Anthony’s people (never Anthony publicly) have been pushing for a trade to get him out of Denver and he said there is a 50/50 chance he is gone before the season starts.

Anthony holds leverage in this process because he is in the last year of his deal and no team is going to trade for him — to give up key young players and picks — if they can’t sign him to an extension. If he doesn’t agree there is no deal. Anthony’s people have pushed for him to go to New York or Chicago, and now we know why, thanks to this exchange reported in the Denver Post.

“As far as marketing, it comes from winning. If I ain’t winning, then nobody wants me to market their product.”

So he was asked: “Then why would you want to play for the team that won 12 games last season?”

Anthony then said: “I never said I want to play for the Nets.”

The Nets pushed hard for a four-team deal that would net them Melo, but one of the holdups was rumored to be Anthony’s hesitation at signing an extension in New Jersey.

No matter what he says, it is not all about winning for Anthony.

Because if it was, he’d stay in Denver and play for a team that with him may be the second best team in the West (they are on that tier with a few other squads). In Denver they reached the Western Conference finals two seasons ago and have been winners and on television a lot for years.

The Knicks are a long ways from winning — with Amar’e Stoudemire or not. Anthony and Stoudemire would mean a lot of points for the Knicks but that team is without depth (after the trade) and there would be defensive questions. They are not going to be better than the Heat, Celtics or Magic. They may not be better than the Bulls. Maybe not better than the Bucks. Or even the Hawks.

Simply put, the Nuggets are closer to the Lakers and a West title than the Knicks with Anthony are to the elite in the East.

This is about him getting to a market he wants to be in. Which is fine, he has the right to go where he wants within the system. His actions so far are within the system and frankly more fair than what LeBron James did to Cleveland (leaving them on the hook until it was too late, so they got nothing for him). Anthony can be a free agent and sign wherever. As it should be. But don’t pretend this is just about winning (and the marketing that comes from it), because Anthony’s actions speak differently.

  1. Drew - Oct 4, 2010 at 11:28 AM

    I respect Melo and I think people are looking for ways to attack him, but to me, this sounds like a guy who wants to be moved to a winner but is trying to say all the right things so he doesn’t get booed and trashed by Denver’s and other fans.

  2. Lolnotaknickfan - Oct 4, 2010 at 11:31 AM

    Im not even a knick fan and this article is reaching…not better than the bucks or hawks? Pay attention this season and stop following the masses! Open your eyes up.

  3. Rory - Oct 4, 2010 at 11:57 AM

    you are clearly delusional if you think the Nuggets are (possibly) the second best team in the West. Even with Melo this year, they’re not better than OKC, Dallas, San Antone and possibly Utah and/or Phoenix. They’re probably about as good as what we expect Portland to be. Fighting between 4th and 7th.

  4. LBJ - Oct 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    Cleveland got nothing? What happened to the first round picks in 2013 and 2015? Or the option to swap first rounders in 2012? Come on, writer. You can do a better job than that. If you are going to make a cheap shot side-comment, at least get it right.

  5. Lofty - Oct 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    I admit, I am completely biased in favor of Carmelo Anthony. However from my perspective isn’t it possible that he has given up on the possibility of winning in Denver as many others have. They have been through several coaches and GMs in his time there, the personnel decisions have been inconsistent at best, and although George Karl thinks he is a genius the closest thing that team has to a coach is Chauncey Billups.

  6. Anonymous - Oct 4, 2010 at 12:11 PM

    Melo wants to be traded for two reasons: 1) his wife’s career; and 2) the Nuggets are not moving forward.
    The Nuggets made a huge move getting Chauncey Billups, and they were a powerhouse team two seasons ago when they went to the WCF. But, they have only gone backwards from there. They lost Dauntey Jones, who may not be a great offensive weapon, but he was a very good defensive specialist that kept them in many games when he could take the other teams’ best player out of the offense. They lost Kleiza, who was their best scoring option off the bench. Their bench is just falling apart, and Billups is getting old.
    Melo is thinking about where the team will be in 3 years, and it’s not looking good. Billups is a great player, but he really only has maybe 2 years of top-level play left in him. He is already slowing down. Granted, even a shell of Billups (and he is still far from a shell of himself) is still better than any player on the Knicks’ roster, but still. Smith is a train wreck, and the team cannot get rid of him. Nene is a good player, but he may be gone next season. Kenyon Martin is terrible, and Harrington is not the answer at PF, either. The team is collapsing around Melo, and it looks like they are going to have to jump into full rebuild mode in a few years. The only young players they have that looks good is Lawson and Afflalo. But, they still have a ton of baggage clogging up the salary cap, so they can’t make any moves to fill holes.
    If I were Melo, I would want out of Denver, too. Denver has some good assets, and can rebuild quick and be back in the running in a couple of years. But, keeping Melo and all the pieces around him is not going to get them past the Lakers, and they can’t keep up with the Thunder and other teams on the rise in the West. It is time for them to rebuild.

  7. Jon - Oct 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM

    drew the only place than melo is going is to the knicks who suck or the nets who suck more

  8. mark1138 - Oct 4, 2010 at 1:22 PM

    I’m a Denver fan – Melo gave us 7 good years. Got us to the playoffs every year. To the Western Conference Finals once. I wish he’d stay, but his contract is up, let him go where he wants to.

  9. rock - Oct 4, 2010 at 1:39 PM

    Yeah…. This article was blindly biased. Of course he wants to go where he can win . He really wants to go to Chicago because that is his best chance of winning , and he is a New Yorker so who wouldn’t want to bring their hometown a ring. This article spewed more vitriol than it did sound judgement . I wonder was this author from Denver. Has to be.

  10. n8 - Oct 4, 2010 at 1:47 PM

    The anti-knicks propaganda continues from you Kurt. The Nuggets right now, with health concerns regarding Birdman, Kenyon and 3 key rotational players for the Nuggets all in a contract years are closer to a title than the Knicks with Melo??? How exactly do you explain this????
    No depth?!?!?! at some point you’re going to have to do research… and not basic per game stats. Its 2010 don’t be afraid of advanced statistics kurt…
    PG. Felton, Douglas, Mason Jr.
    SG. Chandler, Azu,
    SF. Gallo, Walker, Fields
    PF. Amar’e, Randolph
    C. Turiaf, Mozgov,
    thats a pretty deep lineup if you ask me. I know the mainstream media thinks gallo is just euro trash, and doesn’t look at what DWTDD did in the second half of the season, or cant comprehend the similarities between Randolph’s first two years and Josh Smith’s, Camby’s and dare I say K.G. but it doesn’t take too much research. Not counting Fields, (our second round draft pick who’s win shares in college last season was in the top 10 of ANY PLAYER DRAFTED!) we have 11 rotational NBA players on our roster. But we’re somehow not deep?!?!?!
    Wha’ts being missed in the ‘Melo trade discussion is that Melo’s desire to play for only two teams (Bulls Knicks) reduces melo’s trade value tremendously. The nets’ offer was the best denver will get, and as the season plays out, they won’t get a deal anywhere close to that. So New York’s offer wont have to blow their future talent up i.e. Randolph Gallo. As the trade deadline approaches the Nuggets will be faced with a decision. Trade melo for less than market value, or let him walk away.
    So come February if melo is still in denver the most NYC would probably have to trade away would be a draft pick, possibly Ill Will. and Fat Eddy’s contract. Dont be fooled, Walsh is a vet, he knows what he’s doing, and if Melo wants to go to NYC you can probably bet he will either via trade or FA

  11. Chris - Oct 4, 2010 at 2:41 PM

    Genius (oops, you’re a Knick fan. I’ll amend that to “moron”), most likely the Knicks will have to part with Gallo AND Randolph to even make the Nuggets listen to their proposal. Felton is a 2nd or 3rd tier PG, and Amare is a knee injury away from retirement. The Knicks have no picks of substance to offer, and any trade WILL deplete their roster. Knicks will just have to roll the dice and wait for him to sign in the offseason. He will go there, since he is an idiot who wants to fully enjoy losing on the biggest of stages and wait for his wife’s career (I have no clue who she is – stripper? Salesperson at the GAP?) to develop.

  12. AllahBuild - Oct 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM

    Anonymous, is a good tag for you. You are obviously a disgruntled D(envey)fanatic. First off the only player on denver, RIGHT NOW, who gives denver a playoff hope, in the tough west conference is Melo. The knicks have Amare,NOW, Melo WILL FOLLOW!I anticipate the addition of CP3, no later than next year. However,to labor the point,the Knicks have quietly amassed a formidable foe, for any team in the NBA to play. You are a fan in denial, if you cannot see,Amare 6’10″ 32ppg,Randolph 6’11″ 16ppg,Gallo 6’10″ 20 ppg,chandler 6’8″ 17ppg,and Felton 6’1″ 12ppg, and company, as a NBA play-off team.Since you think you are a knowledgeable fan, do the math.With the addition of Mozgov,Turiaf,we are increasing our defensive capabilities.I hope Melo is in NY, by the start of the season,BUT if he is not, we are ready.For those of you who vehemently disagree, THAT’S WHY THEY PLAY THE GAME. See you Sunday,Dec.12,2010. Be Ready.

  13. rock - Oct 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM

    WOW Chris!!!!!! Such disrespect to a man’s wife is not called for. Carmelo will end up with the Bulls or knicks; no question about it. He has more leverage than what people think. No one is going to sign him without a guarantee of an extension. So all he has to do is wait it out and Denver will have to trade for less than what they would want to . It’s a game of chess right now. So the thing is will he hold his good position and make incremental improvement, because he has their king under a lot of pressure.

  14. rock - Oct 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM

    He wants to go to the Bulls as a first option . He wants to go to the Knicks because of loyalty to his home.

  15. Umm-Yeah! - Oct 4, 2010 at 3:04 PM

    Carmello is from Baltimore …One and Done at Syracuse OrangeMen. I agree, he will end-up in NYC-Knicks. Can’t wait to cop his Jerz.

  16. Will - Oct 4, 2010 at 3:09 PM

    You’re repeating the mistake that the reporter who asked “Why do you want to play for the Nets made.” He never said that, just as he didn’t say (as far as I know) that this is *all* about winning.
    First of all, the proposition that the Nuggets should be #2 in the West this season is highly dubious. I won’t waste my time with that point.
    Second, and more important to Melo’s thinking, you haven’t addressed what the Nuggets will be like AFTER this next season. You know, for those seasons that would coincide with the life of the contract that the Nuggets wish to sign him to. Billups is aging, so is Kenyon Martin. Their ownership isn’t exactly great. The Nuggets are a team going downhill. Melo realizes this and wants to move to a team with better long-term prospects at a championship. Which is not the same thing as saying that Melo *is all about winning.*
    So peddle that straw-man argument somewhere else.
    Really, really poor post.

  17. Step your blog game up Helin - Oct 4, 2010 at 3:11 PM

    You’re repeating the mistake that the reporter who asked “Why do you want to play for the Nets made.” He never said that, just as he didn’t say (as far as I know) that this is *all* about winning.
    First of all, the proposition that the Nuggets should be #2 in the West this season is highly dubious. I won’t waste my time with that point.
    Second, and more important to Melo’s thinking, you haven’t addressed what the Nuggets will be like AFTER this next season. You know, for those seasons that would coincide with the life of the contract that the Nuggets wish to sign him to. Billups is aging, so is Kenyon Martin. Their ownership isn’t exactly great. The Nuggets are a team going downhill. Melo realizes this and wants to move to a team with better long-term prospects at a championship. Which is not the same thing as saying that Melo *is all about winning.*
    So peddle that straw-man argument somewhere else.
    Really, really poor post.hp#comments

  18. Zach - Oct 4, 2010 at 3:13 PM

    Actually, he was born in Brooklyn. Hence home loyalty.

  19. rock - Oct 4, 2010 at 3:20 PM

    Yeah where the hell did he get B-more from?

  20. Umm-Yeah! - Oct 4, 2010 at 3:21 PM

    Must we go there??? That’s just cruel …What an Ass!
    (He will go there, since he is an idiot who wants to fully enjoy losing on the biggest of stages and wait for his wife’s career (I have no clue who she is – stripper? Salesperson at the GAP?) to develop.)

  21. AllahBuild - Oct 4, 2010 at 3:27 PM

    The reason Melo wants out of denver, is because of fans like you Milk-Breath. Melo can’t wait to get out of your Bum Town. I think those mountains you live with distort your vision, and rational. You are Losing you FRANCHISE player to NEW YORK,obviously your hurt. So what! In New York we are use to HATERS. You hate: the Yankees 27 world Series Championships, the Mets(1),Giants(2),Jets(1),and Knicks(2) all have World Titles,Denver fans are professional Haters of NY. Reason: Elway left town with Elvis. Amare, Melo, and CP3 have OPENLY,(IN THE FACE OF YOUR “OWNER”)(Talk about a STRAIGHT-UP NEW YORK DIS)stated: “We will form our own big 3 in New York”. They did not say: We will JOIN, Melo in Denver! Reason:Denver DOES not NOW,nor will it ever Mean sh^t to US.I never in 54yrs of life, ever heard anyone say “I gotta go to Denver.” Melo misses HOME. And Denver will never be HOME to a NEW YORKER. Man-up, Your season is ABOUT TO END.WE’RE JUST GETTING STARTED.

  22. Umm-Yeah! - Oct 4, 2010 at 3:27 PM

    My BADD …Brooklyn!!! Again, can’t wait to cop his Jerz.

  23. Anonymous - Oct 4, 2010 at 4:38 PM

    I’ll break this down slowly for you, because obviously…
    1. ) You are unable to understand basic logic..
    “most likely the Knicks will have to part with both Gallo and Randolph for the Nuggets to listen”
    Why? The Nuggets already said they wont let Melo leave without compensation. Every NBA team knows this: so why would the Knicks offer up that much talent for Melo, knowing the predicament they’re in? Again, if you would have spent half the time READING MY POST instead of trying to throw insults (calling me a “moran”, and Melo’s wife a “slut”) you could understand the Nuggets will not get good offers the longer Melo is on Denver’s roster. Denver had the opportunity to get Derrick Favors, two future 1st and A.K. 47. However that trade didn’t go through partly because Melo didn’t sign off on it. He holds the leverage! No team will trade for him without a guarantee he will re-sign. His people have clearly stated that Melo only wants to play for two teams, and with the Bulls re-signing Noah, you can use what little deductive reasoning you posses to figure out his likely destination. So again, knowing all of this, why would the Knicks trade two young 6’11 players with a TON of potential for a guy who probably will just wait to go to NYC for nothing in a matter of months?? …. I’ll wait and see if you can put 2 and 2 together…. (probably will take some time though, so here’s a hint it’s 4!!!!)
    2.) What basic information you are capable of understanding, doesn’t hold true in your own arguments….
    “Felton is a 2nd or 3rd tier PG”
    Im not arguing that Felton is/or isn’t a 2nd or 3rd tier PG, but he was one last year as well, and incase you didn’t realize, he and the Bobcats still made the playoffs… Or how about this, Derrick Fisher is a 3rd tier PG and has been for the majority of his career, but last time i checked he is still a rotational NBA player, and has contributed to 5 NBA championships…
    3.) You make blanket statements that could hold true for ANY player in the league
    “Amar’e is one knee surgery away from retirement..”
    Ummm can you tell me what NBA player isn’t? Honestly if you would do research you would notice that the ONE knee problem Amar’e HAD (microfracture surgery) he followed with his BEST NBA season by far! not to mention he had that procedure done YEARS ago and hasn’t had any setbacks to date. Is there a chance at injury? Of course, but Dwyane Wade has had a history of injuries himself, but it would be foolish to think he is one injury away from being retired, or his team made a mistake in signing him.
    4.) You clearly don’t follow the latest NBA news
    “the Knicks have no picks of substance to offer…”
    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69372/20101001/source_draft_pick_no_longer_an_obstacle_to_Knicks_acquiring_melo/
    5. You cast aspersions without fully knowing what you’re talking about
    “and wait for his wife’s career (I have no clue who she is – stripper? Salesperson at the GAP?) to develop.”
    Although Im not an entertainment buff, i know she already has a television show on the air right now on VH-1, has been on multiple reunion shows again on television. Is a former DJ with Ludacris (incase you don’t know who he is either, he’s a grammy award winning rapper who also has a golden globe) and she’s a former MTV personality. I have no earthly idea if she wants to work on wall street, or 5th Ave, or pursue a career in acting, but my guess is you don’t either, especially because you clearly stated you don’t know who she is. So instead of using his wife as an excuse, why not look at the Nuggets’ situation and use that as a reason for why he would want to leave Denver.
    It’s not like they’ve been the most successful franchise either..
    They let Kleiza leave years ago.. bad mistake
    They have too many knuckleheads on their roster (J.R., Kenyon, Birdman and NYK’s used goods in Balkman)
    A post already mentioned how they let Dahnty Jones go
    And besides Ty Lawson and Nene they have NO movable pieces
    What future plan does Denver have in store exactly??? Didn’t think so…

  24. Chris - Oct 4, 2010 at 6:03 PM

    Obviously, your mommy helped you write your response. I see the brains in your family were evenly distributed.
    1. Melo is also hoping that the new CBA doesn’t institute a hard cap, so he would WANT to be traded now so he can sign an extension that will be grandfathered in. He is blinded by Knick love thinking that simply going there will elevate him in stature. If he wanted to win, he could go to other places that have the ability to, if not right now. The Nets are one. Having Lopez, Murphy (servicable) and possibly Harris if they don’t have to do the exhausting 4 team scenario are wayyyy better than the Knicks poo-poo platter of players they have right now. If the Nuggets can talk Melo into leaving now, they will likely ask for one or both of them. If Melo wants out bad enough (plus that sweet extension, he will push for it). You think he wants to watch Randolph cry on the bench like he did in GS? Hardly. Not like he’s salivating at playing with those two. He could care less. He wants Amare and NY lights. Oh, stupid ass, when you use these things (“”) around words, that means you are directly quoting someone. When you’re proven wrong, as you are here, it’s called libel and you can be sued for it. Just an FYI skippy.
    2. Comparing Felton to Fisher is like comparing a Porsche to a Hyundai. They are both cars and get you around, but one has more prestige to it than another. Fisher, firstly, was never a featured component of the champion Laker teams. He benefitted from Kobe, Shaq, Gasol, etc taking pressure off him so he could do his specialized skillset. The Bobcats got good production out of Jackson and Wallace, plus benefitting from being in the East, where a sub .500 team can make the playoffs regularly.
    3. Amare’s situation is different. I will amend that statement about his knees to include his eyes, which are more problematic. It has been said there is serious concern about another eye injury possibly costing him his NBA career.
    4. That link only lists a source, which doesn’t effectively say HOW they can get a pick to trade or IF they can. Your example is grasping at straws at best.
    5. She does reality work? Then calling her a stripper was degrading…to strippers. I could care less why he’s leaving Denver. I don’t live there and I’m sure their franchise is a mess. Obtaining AI and Martin shows they don’t have the greatest grasp on basketball matters. Their Front Office is in disarray anyways.

  25. rock - Oct 4, 2010 at 7:11 PM

    Just to be concise and to the point, you are a moron and a coward. that is why you respond anonymous. Get a life .

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