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Carmelo Anthony rumors update (please bring plenty of salt)

Sep 21, 2010, 8:32 PM EST

Thumbnail image for carmello.anthony.2.jpgThere are almost more rumors about Carmelo Anthony out there than there are people laughing at David Hasselhoff after last night. Almost.

We’re going to talk about some key ones, but first we start with the trade rumor primer, just as a reminder: Every leaked rumor has a motive behind it. Nobody at this stage is telling any journalist something because they think the public should know (or because they like him or her), it’s because they want to put some pressure on someone in the negotiations. Say something to get another side to either up the offer or back off. Just read every rumor through that prism.

The one thing that seems consistent across all the chatter — this is not going to happen fast. Not before camp opens, maybe not before the season opens. Although that is a change from 24 hours ago, so who knows. Still, might want to get comfortable, we could be at this a while.

ESPN’s well plugged in Chris Broussard (remember he was in the mix on LeBron to Miami) said in a series of tweets:

Rt now looks like Den will bring Melo to camp unless someone blows it away with a trade offer.

Nuggets hope a hot start will convince Melo to stay – or maybe they can trade for another star that will keep Melo in Den.

In meantime, Den will keep listening to offers. Nuggets wanted Lopez from NJ, but Nets know they got no chance of keeping Melo w/out Brook.

We should say it is possible Anthony remains in Denver, but that is not what anyone we’ve spoken with thinks will be the likely outcome. The league seems to expect a trade.

There is no way that New Jersey will or should throw Brook Lopez in the trade mix — one-on-one Anthony is a better player than Lopez but you need both to really build something. And the Nets are building. There also are questions if Anthony would sign there anyway.

The Rockets are talking to Denver but Kevin Martin is not part of the discussion, according to Sam Amick of FanHouse. If he’s not in, I’m not sure what Houston really can offer that Denver would want aside the Knicks first round pick (something the Knicks could really use themselves).

The Nets reportedly offered No. 3 pick Derrick Favors, Troy Murphy and picks. Which sounds like the best offer, if it is real.

The other rumor out there — from Broussard and multiple other sources including the New York Times — is that the Bulls are out because they will not put in both Luol Deng and Joakim Noah. Nor should they — you would need Noah’s defense at the rim to cover for the iffy defense of Boozer and Melo anyway.

Denver is apparently asking for a lot right now. And they should. It’s early in the game and there is no real pressure — they can bring Anthony to camp, he’ll say he’s not talking about it and then it will be a moderate distraction (sort of like it was for the Cavaliers last season). Maybe Anthony will change his mind.

But that pressure will build — the Nuggets know if Melo will not sign an extension in Denver they have to move him, and as things get closer to the trading deadline teams are more likely to lowball, knowing Denver has to make a move.

Anthony wants an extension under this CBA, which would likely mean an additional $10 million or more than what he can get next summer. Denver doesn’t want to decimate the franchise. It’s one big game of chicken, but it’s early and nobody is close to blinking yet.

  1. SLICEnDICE - Sep 21, 2010 at 10:18 PM

    I love the Nuggets for so many reasons, and Melo is one of the main reasons. Remember they beat the Celtics and the Cavs twice on their own court last season.
    He has such a good chance of winning a championship in Denver it is not funny. The Lakers will slide in Melo’s time. He needs to be with the Nuggets to pounce on that power ranking. The Kreonke family can afford the luxury tax for years to come.
    Billups has been showing his true form in the FIBA champs and i think if the Nuggets can unload Kmart then that will free up a lot of salary. Nene is worth keeping. Melo just needs backup until JR can settle down and mature his game.
    They are one piece away from being a truly great team and creating a dynasty. Marc Gasol maybe?

  2. TJ - Sep 21, 2010 at 11:20 PM

    This is by far the best article I have read surrounding the Carmelo situation. Good work. Non bias perspective opposed to the rest of the articles I read that clearly contain an underlying motive…My only question is how much is Broussard receiving from the Dolan camp? He is trying to be the World Wide Wes of ESPN reporting. Completely annoying if you ask me.

  3. Still an NBA fan... - Sep 21, 2010 at 11:29 PM

    Why is this that hard to figure out: Andre Iguodala and Andres Nocioni to the Nuggets; Derrick Favors and Troy Murphy’s expiring contract to the Sixers; and Melo to the Nets

  4. 808 - Sep 21, 2010 at 11:46 PM

    Do you really believe the Nuggets would rather have Iguodala and Nocioni than Favors and Murphy?

  5. Jon - Sep 21, 2010 at 11:54 PM

    Actually Iggy/Noc is better than a highly unproven Favors and Murphy who would really have no minutes on a team that would be Favors/Martin/Nene already with Favors/Martins already being primarily PF’s.
    Iggy isn’t Melo but he arguably gives better D.. it just depends what the Nuggets want to do, blow it up or keep on fighting.

  6. Still an NBA fan... - Sep 22, 2010 at 12:02 AM

    I do. Iguodala is a versatile swingman who can be really useful if he just lowers his three-point attempts; he was a shutdown defender in Turkey and has developed a midrange game. He can slide to SG with Nocioni at SF for defensive sets or play SF with J.R. Smith at SG in offensive sets. Going for Favors and Murphy directly would be akin to blowing the team up whereas they can still stay in the playoffs with a different mix. Favors may end up being Derrick Coleman or may become a reliable beast but it’s going to take 3 or 4 years to figure that out. I don’t know if George Karl can put up with him but Doug Collins has patience and doesn’t have to deal with expectations.

  7. Dirk Simmons - Sep 22, 2010 at 12:16 AM

    The whole thing is a joke. Why on earth would Melo sign an extension with the Nets? He doesn’t like his situation now…wait until he gets to New Jersey. They won 12 games last year! 12! Lopez has been vastly overrated by the East Coast media bias. He’s a very promising big man, but is he really enticing enough for Melo? He’d much rather sign with the Knicks or the Bulls. The Knicks can’t offer the Nuggets anything, so that leaves the Bulls. They’d prefer to have Noah, but that’s not happening. They also don’t want to be hamstrung by Deng’s awful contract. Everybody seems to forget Melo has some say, because no one will trade for him if he doesn’t guarantee to sign an extension. So, the Nuggets are forced to either make a decent deal with Chicago or lose him for nothing. Then Melo plays out his contract and signs with the Knicks. I say take the Chicago deal. Why get nothing? Deng is a starter and Gibson and whoever else they offer are great bench guys, and a Charlotte pick in like 5 years isn’t protected. Plus, if you let him play out his contract, maybe the Knicks suck so bad that Melo signs somewhere in the West. That’s not a good outlook.

  8. Dirk Simmons - Sep 22, 2010 at 12:47 AM

    Here’s a good question though. Can Chicago afford to pay big money for Rose, Melo, Boozer, and Noah in the future? Highly unlikely.

  9. jpage78 - Sep 22, 2010 at 1:24 AM

    The Nuggets won’t take Deng because his contract is HORRIBLE for the production he gives you.

  10. 808 - Sep 22, 2010 at 1:27 AM

    Does each team keep the profits from their own jersey sales? If so, Melo probably pays for a good bit of his own salary.

  11. Dirk Simmons - Sep 22, 2010 at 1:32 AM

    We agree that it is horrible, but they have to take it no matter what to match salary. Even if they get Noah in a deal, it will have to include Deng in order to match salary figures.

  12. 808 - Sep 22, 2010 at 1:36 AM

    I believe Denver can use all the quality bigs they can find. Both Kenyon and Birdman will miss the start of the season with injuries. Besides that I just have a hard time seeing Denver passing up a young big with as much talent as Favors.

  13. 808 - Sep 22, 2010 at 1:45 AM

    my last comment was a reply to Jon
    “I do. Iguodala is a versatile swingman who can be really useful if he just lowers his three-point attempts; he was a shutdown defender in Turkey and has developed a midrange game. He can slide to SG with Nocioni at SF for defensive sets or play SF with J.R. Smith at SG in offensive sets. Going for Favors and Murphy directly would be akin to blowing the team up whereas they can still stay in the playoffs with a different mix. Favors may end up being Derrick Coleman or may become a reliable beast but it’s going to take 3 or 4 years to figure that out. I don’t know if George Karl can put up with him but Doug Collins has patience and doesn’t have to deal with expectations.”
    You make some good points. I guess I’m just not sold on Iguodala. To me he is really a poor shooting 2 not a 3. He is what I imagine you would get if you hypnotized Dahntay Jones and convinced him he was Kobe. And anyone other than Philly being interested in Noc at $7m per would shock me.

  14. JAGERxB0MBS - Sep 23, 2010 at 12:56 PM

    all that matters is if melo goes to the bulls then that means the heat will lose!! heat suck they have no depth at all!! wade and bosh have injury problems so forget about a ring!! and lebron is the worse player in the league!! he sucks all he can do is dunk!! he has no shot at all!! but anyway melo is the 2nd best player in the league behind kobe!! so any time he goes to will be beast!! And havent you guys heard about the magic trying to get melo for 2 first round picks!! if melo was smart then he would go there or the bulls!! Or if any of the teams was smart they would wait 1 year and get him as a free agent!! And the dude that said that the bulls will be over the cap then he is dumb!! look at the heat they have 18 people on that roster!! they only had 1.6 million after pickin up people!! i know there is luxuary tax but come on now nba u know somethings up!! and there is rumor talks about them getting tony parker!! so is there really a salary cap???

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