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Apparently Camelo Anthony doesn't want a title, just wants out

Aug 27, 2010, 9:02 AM EDT

Thumbnail image for CAnthony_stares.jpgThe trading of Carmelo Anthony before the start of the season has gone from “if” to “where and for whom” if we are to believe the latest reports. And we do, as all signs point that way and have for a while.

But from the list of possible trading partners out there — both the ones preferred by Anthony and the ones the Nuggets ownership has forced into the conversation — it is clear that winning a title is not why Anthony is doing this.

From what we can gather and other reports, the list of teams Anthony is interested in includes New York, Orlando, Chicago, Houston and New Jersey. The Nuggets want young players and picks, so they have brought the Clippers and Golden State to the party.

Who on that list is closer to winning a title than the Nuggets? None, really. Unless Anthony thinks he can draw Chris Paul to wherever he lands to form a new superteam, which is a pretty big gambit. But he gets no closer to a title with any realistic move right now.

Maybe Orlando would be a contender. But they would have to get past Miami and Boston in the East (and Chicago is pretty good, too). And while Boston will fade Miami is going to be a powerhouse — an only improving powerhouse — for the next five years. While the Lakers are a power in Denver’s way in the West, their window is shorter.

In the west Houston makes some sense — if you think Yao Ming can stay healthy and ignore how good the Lakers are. Getting Anthony would recreate the concepts behind the McGrady/Yao pairing that never quite panned out. And the Rockets could offer a nice package in a trade of something like Jordan Hill, Chase Budinger, plus they have something the Knicks do not — Knicks draft picks. The Rockets could offer up their own 2011 pick (which comes with the right to flip with New York) and the Knicks 2012 pick.

Anthony allegedly pushed for New York but the Nuggets see no sense in that because what can the Knicks really offer? The expiring contract of Eddy Curry, somebody like Wilson Chandler and picks in 2014 and 2016? Not enticing.

The Clippers are considered frontrunners and they certainly could put together a package of nice young players. Chris Kaman would be a big salary piece but Eric Bledsoe and maybe even Eric Gordon could be part of the package, along with picks. But do not think Blake Griffin will be part of the deal, the Clippers are too invested in him.

This also is where cooperation comes in — would Anthony really do a sign-and-trade to the Clippers? Would he trust the prime of his career to Donald Sterling? Anthony and the Clippers need to be on the same page here.

The Nets may make the most sense. They are soon to be New York, they have young players like Devin Harris, Anthony Morrow, the big contract of Troy Murphy could be part of the deal. What the Nets would want is to keep Brook Lopez and rookie Derrick Favors to pair with Anthony, in what could be a very good combo going forward.

But with the Heat looming in the East, is that closer to a title than Denver right now? No.

Which makes me think more and more that winning is not the primary motivation here.

  1. J Swizzle - Aug 27, 2010 at 9:37 AM

    Uhh try Orlando and the Bulls? Seriously, The Magic are one year removed from the actual NBA finals. Are you saying that team with Melo and Dwight and Jameer isn’t a title contender, regardless of being in the same conference as the Heat?
    The fact is the Nuggets haven’t gotten it done with Melo. Billups is aging and is the second best player on that team. I’m not so sure Melo is psyched for the Ty Lawson era. He can either go to (1) Chicago with two young studs in Rose and Noah (plus Boozer) and form one of the best starting fives in the league, or go to (2) orlando and join maybe the most talented team in the league. I’d say he definitely is considering winning with those options.

  2. MobTown - Aug 27, 2010 at 10:23 AM

    1. Orlando is the the third best team in the East, and I don’t see anybody on the Heat that contend with Howard’s dominance in the post. Yeah, Bosh is good, but he’s like the 5th best Power Forward in the game.
    2. Chicago is right behind them. And if you’re looking at a starting 5 of Rose, Brewer, Anthony, Boozer, and Noah, you’re looking at a team that doesn’t have the star power of Miami, but they have significant talent at every spot, and they rebound better, and can match the speed of Miami.
    Plus, Deng is the perfect trade piece to Anthony, you throw in Taj Gibson, a draft pick, and cash consideration, and you’ve got yourself a starting 3 in Denver, a good young player, a pick for next year, and some money, which Denver could use to quell their $82 million payroll.
    3. This blog called him out a few weeks ago. So, the bigger question is, what does he bring to a team that’s on the cusp like Chicago or Orlando? Star power and inflated numbers?

  3. KG - Aug 27, 2010 at 11:09 AM

    So it seems to me that what you are saying Kurt, is Camelo’s chances of winning a title are practically non-existent unless he signs with the Heat or Lakers. It might also seem that you are trying to dig way down there to find out why Anthony wants to leave. Maybe he just wants a change of scenery, he’s tired of Denver, he wants the extra media attention he can get in a big market city, Denver’s mile high air is to thin, the night life is better in Orlando, New York, Chicago, and Houston. Does it really matter. Anthony doesn’t have to explain his reasons for leaving. His contract is up at the end of the year, then he has the option to sign with many different teams.

  4. Rod Fujii - Aug 27, 2010 at 11:44 AM

    Based on the numerous reports out there, it appears that New Jersey and the Clippers are viable trade candidates for Denver. It’s been noted that each team has picks and young talent to offer and New York and LA are the entertainment capitals. However, the Clippers and Nets would be restricted as to the players each could offer as potential trade pieces in that each team acquired quite a few free agents during the summer. These free agents are not available for trade until December 15.

  5. T-wolves lol - Aug 27, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    Don’t care about a title=Minnesota bound?
    MN could easily be the best trade partner for Denver because of the cap space, tons of young talent, and draft picks.
    But no way Melo would agree to an extension if the destination was MN…but you never know? lol

  6. Dave Thomas - Aug 27, 2010 at 12:22 PM

    @JSwizzle — I agree with just about everything you said, but I’m pretty sure the only contenders for the “most talented team” right now are the two-time defending champs (who have gotten incrementally better in free agency) and that gang of goofballs in Miami.

  7. Brian Thomas - Aug 27, 2010 at 12:22 PM

    Kurt no matter how you slice it he has to leave and where he goes should only be determined by what Denver can get in return. We can talk about who has what to offer but he has to go. I still applaud Melo because he has made it apparent that he will not return, and trade him while you can get a wealth of talent for him, the key to getting and keeping these players they have to want to be in the city that they are playing in, some want to win and some just want to be happy with where they are, they are living a dream that most men would die for. I wish the Cavs could have been in the shoes as the Nuggets are then they would have had a reality show known as the decision.

  8. Luis Rodriguez - Aug 27, 2010 at 1:23 PM

    Im agree wit you, Anthony is a elite player if he wants out of denver only he knows why and we have to respect that sorry for denver fans, infact bouth chicago and orlando even new jersy will be betters tems as son as Melo gets there, Orlando and the Bulls can win a title wit melo miami dosent look like a worry for me.

  9. Luis Rodriguez - Aug 27, 2010 at 1:26 PM

    Im agree wit you, Anthony is a elite player if he wants out of denver only he knows why and we have to respect that sorry for denver fans, infact bouth chicago and orlando even new jersy will be betters tems as son as Melo gets there, Orlando and the Bulls can win a title wit melo miami dosent look like a worry for me.

  10. rudster - Aug 27, 2010 at 2:13 PM

    Why not bring Melo to Boston and tighten him up with a 3 yr. deal with incentives,miami will not be as good as everyone is thinking, to young yet ,Boston did it with players that were in there prime and had one thing in mind and Miami will do it but it will take 2 years to get straight.We have Rondo, Baby,Perkins,and a few other young guys to work with so why not,Boston will be in rebuild mode after this year and Melo is a good start!

  11. G. Willis - Aug 27, 2010 at 2:53 PM

    Orlando, Chicago and Houston would all be legitimate contenders by adding Carmelo Anthony to their team as long as they were able to retain the majority of their core players in the process. Houston appears to have a slight advantage over the other teams in this group because they possess the most resources. They also have the ability to include J.R. Smith in the deal which would be very appealing to Denver’s front office. Denver has added both New Jersey and the Clippers to the list due to their strong desire to acquire either Derrick Favors or Blake Griffin. I believe that Carmelo wants it all if possible, and I don’t see anything wrong with that. Most of the columnist who are writing about him are probably at least forty years old and have a different perspective in life. He’s a twenty-six year old superstar and millionaire entering the prime of his NBA career( and life). I am sure being a newlywed is not making this decision any easier for him; pleasing his new lovely wife is surely a consideration. We should be wishing him luck, not judging him.

  12. DRKNGHT - Aug 27, 2010 at 10:57 PM

    Denver will unequivocally trade Carmelo! And eventually, I unequivocally, believe he and his beautiful wife want New York!

  13. martin - Aug 28, 2010 at 1:43 AM

    Boston is too cheap to get quality talent

  14. chris - Aug 28, 2010 at 3:15 PM

    some of you out there need a reality check. denver is only willing to trade to teams THAT HAVE WHAT THEY WANT! that being said, the nets and the clippers are in the front seat when it comes to young players AND DRAFT PICKS. besides, melo wants his actress wife to be happy, and both nj and la are career centers for her. la beats out nj on weather and glamour, and forget about dts being a negative. players and agents don’t give a crap about who the owner is as long as they get the $ they want. it’s up to the fo’s to seal a deal, and la may have the advantage here. but it is the nba, and anything really can happen.

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