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	<title>Comments on: Doc Rivers on the Lakers: &quot;They still have not beaten our starting five&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: YouGotServed</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Won all &quot;your&quot; titles in Boston?  First, &quot;you&quot; weren&#039;t on any of those teams. Second, the LAKERS won those titles...the city that they &quot;represented&quot; is irrelevant (the home city only exists to guarantee a certain amount of SUCKERS (aka LOSERS) that will root for the team no matter what just because the name of the city is attached.  Third, Boston fans are the biggest fairweather fan group in the world and only play the &quot;won all the titles in one city&quot; card because they are pathetic losers who have no life.
Go screw yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won all &#8220;your&#8221; titles in Boston?  First, &#8220;you&#8221; weren&#8217;t on any of those teams. Second, the LAKERS won those titles&#8230;the city that they &#8220;represented&#8221; is irrelevant (the home city only exists to guarantee a certain amount of SUCKERS (aka LOSERS) that will root for the team no matter what just because the name of the city is attached.  Third, Boston fans are the biggest fairweather fan group in the world and only play the &#8220;won all the titles in one city&#8221; card because they are pathetic losers who have no life.<br />
Go screw yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I UNDERSTAND WHY HE SAID IT BUT IT IS BELOW DOC TO SAY IT-SOUNDS A LOT LIKE DANNY AIGNE -SOUR GRAPES ARE ALWAYS SOUR- lAKERS EARNED THE TITLE-PAY RESPECT TO THE KINGS OF THE NBA- LAKERS SQUAD EARNED THE TITLE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I UNDERSTAND WHY HE SAID IT BUT IT IS BELOW DOC TO SAY IT-SOUNDS A LOT LIKE DANNY AIGNE -SOUR GRAPES ARE ALWAYS SOUR- lAKERS EARNED THE TITLE-PAY RESPECT TO THE KINGS OF THE NBA- LAKERS SQUAD EARNED THE TITLE.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sO SO TRUE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sO SO TRUE</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[doc is using this to fire up his guys, not make excuses for the finals.  He still wants them to have the swagger of the champs.  relax everyone knows injuries are a part of the game, i know the celtics could have used perkins in game 7 for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doc is using this to fire up his guys, not make excuses for the finals.  He still wants them to have the swagger of the champs.  relax everyone knows injuries are a part of the game, i know the celtics could have used perkins in game 7 for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: anticrust</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thought just popped into my mind, and I&#039;m sure you can load this one into your geographical significance chain of thought. When the Lakers moved from Minneapolis to Los Angeles, I believe they played in the same &quot;Los Angeles Sports Arena&quot; for a short period of time before moving to &quot;The Forum&quot; (aka &quot;The Fabululous Forum, The Great Western Forum). That arena sits in the city of Inglewood. So are you going to insist that the championships which the Lakers won in the 80&#039;s are also not worthy, as they eventually moved to the city of Los Angeles into &quot;The Staples Center&quot;? In thinking about it along that vein, the true Los Angeles team is the &quot;Clippers&quot; therefore. As they played in the LA Sports Arena, until their cheap owner, Donald Sterling, probably told them &quot;guys, can you jog a few miles North, because we&#039;re moving...&quot;
OK, this &quot;horse&quot; has been beaten dead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought just popped into my mind, and I&#8217;m sure you can load this one into your geographical significance chain of thought. When the Lakers moved from Minneapolis to Los Angeles, I believe they played in the same &#8220;Los Angeles Sports Arena&#8221; for a short period of time before moving to &#8220;The Forum&#8221; (aka &#8220;The Fabululous Forum, The Great Western Forum). That arena sits in the city of Inglewood. So are you going to insist that the championships which the Lakers won in the 80&#8242;s are also not worthy, as they eventually moved to the city of Los Angeles into &#8220;The Staples Center&#8221;? In thinking about it along that vein, the true Los Angeles team is the &#8220;Clippers&#8221; therefore. As they played in the LA Sports Arena, until their cheap owner, Donald Sterling, probably told them &#8220;guys, can you jog a few miles North, because we&#8217;re moving&#8230;&#8221;<br />
OK, this &#8220;horse&#8221; has been beaten dead.</p>
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		<title>By: anticrust</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anticrust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No change in ownership, unlike the Oklahoma City Thunder, Clay Bennett comes in, buys team, acts as if he cares to stay, takes team to OKC, leaves the Sonic&#039;s name behind. Seattle, a great city was &quot;taken by a fool&quot;. Teams move, the league owners vote on it, and it happens. The Minneapolis Lakers were not disbanded in a manner such as when the old ABA collapsed and about 4 teams survived the cut and became NBA teams, and the other teams and players were dispersed in a manner which I cannot recall. I understand your point of view, however, I think there was enough continuity to deem the &quot;Los Angeles Lakers&quot; as an evolution of the &quot;Minneapolis Lakers&quot;. Personally, I believe the league has grown too large, and teams are allowed to move too freely. For example, The Los Angeles Clippers, moved from San Diego (I know, Buffalo origanlly) to Los Angeles and the league and its owners voted to allow this. Orange County is about 28 miles from The old LA Sports Arena where the Clippers played and the Staples Center where they currently play. First I believe the Clippers should never have been allowed to move to Los Angeles (San Diego is a beautiful city, and ranked around the 8th largest city in the United States at the time). Second, if they were allowed to move from San Diego, I believe that the move should only have been allowed contingent on a clause that they would eventually move to Orange County, the second most populous county in California. Around that time two groups were racing to build an arena, one never came to be, Irvine, and one did, &quot;The Arrowhead Pond&quot;, now &quot;The Honda Center&quot;, and is directly on the other side of a freeway from where the Angels play baseball, I believe it is in the city of Anaheim, personally I don&#039;t care. Other surrounding cities in the &quot;OC&quot; as it is often referred to include Fullerton, Orange, Huntington Beach, Stanton, Buena Park and the aforementioned Anaheim. That is just North Orange County. South Orange County, often referred to as the &quot;Gold Coast&quot; includes cities such as Newport Beach, Irvine, Laguna Beach, Mission Viejo, Laguna Niguel, Dana Point. As I&#039;m sure you may know, but probably don&#039;t care Kobe Bryant lives in &quot;South OC&quot;, but works in &quot;Downtown, Los Angeles&quot;. So going back to the point of Boston winning all their championships in one city, whereas the Lakers moved from one city to another, at approximately the same time in history, that the Brooklyn Dodgers moved from Brooklyn to Los Angeles, you are entitled to make your point, but I believe otherwise. I believe their move was just a physical relocation, not a business rebuild. I often think about the Sonics, and how they truly don&#039;t exist any longer. The jerseys of the Sonic greats (Gary Payton always comes to mind) need a true home in which to hang. I&#039;d rather they hang in the old arenas in Seattle, than in Oklahoma City, which I believe they don&#039;t. Clay Bennett basically committed an act of &quot;genocide&quot; to the team &quot;The Seattle Supersonics&quot;. Have a nice day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No change in ownership, unlike the Oklahoma City Thunder, Clay Bennett comes in, buys team, acts as if he cares to stay, takes team to OKC, leaves the Sonic&#8217;s name behind. Seattle, a great city was &#8220;taken by a fool&#8221;. Teams move, the league owners vote on it, and it happens. The Minneapolis Lakers were not disbanded in a manner such as when the old ABA collapsed and about 4 teams survived the cut and became NBA teams, and the other teams and players were dispersed in a manner which I cannot recall. I understand your point of view, however, I think there was enough continuity to deem the &#8220;Los Angeles Lakers&#8221; as an evolution of the &#8220;Minneapolis Lakers&#8221;. Personally, I believe the league has grown too large, and teams are allowed to move too freely. For example, The Los Angeles Clippers, moved from San Diego (I know, Buffalo origanlly) to Los Angeles and the league and its owners voted to allow this. Orange County is about 28 miles from The old LA Sports Arena where the Clippers played and the Staples Center where they currently play. First I believe the Clippers should never have been allowed to move to Los Angeles (San Diego is a beautiful city, and ranked around the 8th largest city in the United States at the time). Second, if they were allowed to move from San Diego, I believe that the move should only have been allowed contingent on a clause that they would eventually move to Orange County, the second most populous county in California. Around that time two groups were racing to build an arena, one never came to be, Irvine, and one did, &#8220;The Arrowhead Pond&#8221;, now &#8220;The Honda Center&#8221;, and is directly on the other side of a freeway from where the Angels play baseball, I believe it is in the city of Anaheim, personally I don&#8217;t care. Other surrounding cities in the &#8220;OC&#8221; as it is often referred to include Fullerton, Orange, Huntington Beach, Stanton, Buena Park and the aforementioned Anaheim. That is just North Orange County. South Orange County, often referred to as the &#8220;Gold Coast&#8221; includes cities such as Newport Beach, Irvine, Laguna Beach, Mission Viejo, Laguna Niguel, Dana Point. As I&#8217;m sure you may know, but probably don&#8217;t care Kobe Bryant lives in &#8220;South OC&#8221;, but works in &#8220;Downtown, Los Angeles&#8221;. So going back to the point of Boston winning all their championships in one city, whereas the Lakers moved from one city to another, at approximately the same time in history, that the Brooklyn Dodgers moved from Brooklyn to Los Angeles, you are entitled to make your point, but I believe otherwise. I believe their move was just a physical relocation, not a business rebuild. I often think about the Sonics, and how they truly don&#8217;t exist any longer. The jerseys of the Sonic greats (Gary Payton always comes to mind) need a true home in which to hang. I&#8217;d rather they hang in the old arenas in Seattle, than in Oklahoma City, which I believe they don&#8217;t. Clay Bennett basically committed an act of &#8220;genocide&#8221; to the team &#8220;The Seattle Supersonics&#8221;. Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: dball</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both teams were absolutely exhausted by game 7.  The defensive effort of both teams took its toll.
In the end, The Lakers had a little more left in the tank and had a little boost from the home crowd.  I&#039;m pretty certain that the home court made the difference.
Doc, take your lumps and go for a better regular season record next time and MAYBE you&#039;ll fare better in the finals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both teams were absolutely exhausted by game 7.  The defensive effort of both teams took its toll.<br />
In the end, The Lakers had a little more left in the tank and had a little boost from the home crowd.  I&#8217;m pretty certain that the home court made the difference.<br />
Doc, take your lumps and go for a better regular season record next time and MAYBE you&#8217;ll fare better in the finals.</p>
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		<title>By: McDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McDaddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Anonymous,
Read my earlier post. I said the Lakers deserved to win.
They were evenly matched with the Celtics this time unlike
&#039;08 when they were crushed. How many points did they win by?
If the Celtics had a few bounces their way the rebounding advantage
would not have mattered.  It was an ugly game. Actually, the whole
series was fairly ugly. The officiating was horrible on both
sides.  Memo to David Stern:  fix the refs! Not that way. The
right way!  And again. Perkins, one of the best rebounders, was not there because of Bynum bringing his full weight down on Perkins shoulders. So Doc was right after all! Thank you for confirming our argument Mr. Anonymous!  Much appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Anonymous,<br />
Read my earlier post. I said the Lakers deserved to win.<br />
They were evenly matched with the Celtics this time unlike<br />
&#8217;08 when they were crushed. How many points did they win by?<br />
If the Celtics had a few bounces their way the rebounding advantage<br />
would not have mattered.  It was an ugly game. Actually, the whole<br />
series was fairly ugly. The officiating was horrible on both<br />
sides.  Memo to David Stern:  fix the refs! Not that way. The<br />
right way!  And again. Perkins, one of the best rebounders, was not there because of Bynum bringing his full weight down on Perkins shoulders. So Doc was right after all! Thank you for confirming our argument Mr. Anonymous!  Much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[McDaddy:  In an ugly game 7, the Lakers shot poorly but played more aggressively and KILLED the Celtics on rebounding.  That&#039;s not LUCK that&#039;s effort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McDaddy:  In an ugly game 7, the Lakers shot poorly but played more aggressively and KILLED the Celtics on rebounding.  That&#8217;s not LUCK that&#8217;s effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Commenter #1`2345</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Commenter #1`2345]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure Doc.  Whatever makes you sleep at night.  But simply put the game can be played/won by 5 back-ups and the result was 4-3 Lakers. BTW, the Lakers lost to the Celtics starting 5 and the biased officiating (esp in game #2) so the Celtics starting 5 ALSO have not beaten/played the Lakers starting 5 yet. Doc is turning out to be a real whiner sending videos to the NBA about the same moving screens, holding and shoving that gave them the edge these last 3 years.  Hypocrite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure Doc.  Whatever makes you sleep at night.  But simply put the game can be played/won by 5 back-ups and the result was 4-3 Lakers. BTW, the Lakers lost to the Celtics starting 5 and the biased officiating (esp in game #2) so the Celtics starting 5 ALSO have not beaten/played the Lakers starting 5 yet. Doc is turning out to be a real whiner sending videos to the NBA about the same moving screens, holding and shoving that gave them the edge these last 3 years.  Hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: McDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McDaddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Drew. You are one of the few intelligent posters here.
God, the Laker fans are the biggest bunch of whining crybabies and
idiots I have ever heard! If any of these dopes ever met A. Bynum in person they would immediately drop to their knees no doubt.
Is Bynum going to have surgery again this season? Want to bet he
won&#039;t be healthy next year in the finals again?  If he is then
McShaq will easily shut him down. That will be what you all deserve,
an ex-Laker kicking your asses!  And McMonkeyboy, nobody is saying
Kobe is not a great player.  He is the reason the Lakers can compete
for a title. But he is and never will be as good as Jordan. Jordan
would never have collapsed in game six of the finals like Kobe did
2 years ago?  Remember game six in &#039;08?  Kobe was shut down and
your Lakers got beat by 40 points!  He almost blew it again
last year in game 7.  He is great, but second best to Jordan.
Sorry Kobe, that must hurt your huge ego!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Drew. You are one of the few intelligent posters here.<br />
God, the Laker fans are the biggest bunch of whining crybabies and<br />
idiots I have ever heard! If any of these dopes ever met A. Bynum in person they would immediately drop to their knees no doubt.<br />
Is Bynum going to have surgery again this season? Want to bet he<br />
won&#8217;t be healthy next year in the finals again?  If he is then<br />
McShaq will easily shut him down. That will be what you all deserve,<br />
an ex-Laker kicking your asses!  And McMonkeyboy, nobody is saying<br />
Kobe is not a great player.  He is the reason the Lakers can compete<br />
for a title. But he is and never will be as good as Jordan. Jordan<br />
would never have collapsed in game six of the finals like Kobe did<br />
2 years ago?  Remember game six in &#8217;08?  Kobe was shut down and<br />
your Lakers got beat by 40 points!  He almost blew it again<br />
last year in game 7.  He is great, but second best to Jordan.<br />
Sorry Kobe, that must hurt your huge ego!</p>
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		<title>By: McDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McDaddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey McMonkeyboy,
You got a laugh out of me.  Well you are a passionate Laker
fan and good for you.  That is what makes the Boston - L.A.
rivalry one of the best ever. The Lakers and the Celtics were
evenly matched this past season and the home court turned out
to be the edge the Lakers needed.  The deserved to win and may
have won even with Perkins playing.  I do think the Celtics are
a much better team with Perkins in there.  He is very important
to their team chemistry and could have made the difference in
game seven.  The Lakers were fortunate that a few shots bounced
the wrong way or they would have lost again.  You all have to admit
that you were lucky and barely escaped. If the Celts can get by
Orlando and Miami again you all will scared that your precious
little Laker boys won&#039;t be able to pull it off again.  Admit it!
You are scared!  BEAT L.A!  BEAT L.A.!  BEAT L.A.!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey McMonkeyboy,<br />
You got a laugh out of me.  Well you are a passionate Laker<br />
fan and good for you.  That is what makes the Boston &#8211; L.A.<br />
rivalry one of the best ever. The Lakers and the Celtics were<br />
evenly matched this past season and the home court turned out<br />
to be the edge the Lakers needed.  The deserved to win and may<br />
have won even with Perkins playing.  I do think the Celtics are<br />
a much better team with Perkins in there.  He is very important<br />
to their team chemistry and could have made the difference in<br />
game seven.  The Lakers were fortunate that a few shots bounced<br />
the wrong way or they would have lost again.  You all have to admit<br />
that you were lucky and barely escaped. If the Celts can get by<br />
Orlando and Miami again you all will scared that your precious<br />
little Laker boys won&#8217;t be able to pull it off again.  Admit it!<br />
You are scared!  BEAT L.A!  BEAT L.A.!  BEAT L.A.!</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doc is just trying to fire up his guys give him a break.  With that Eastern Conference the way it is this year, he&#039;ll need all the edge he can manage to muster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc is just trying to fire up his guys give him a break.  With that Eastern Conference the way it is this year, he&#8217;ll need all the edge he can manage to muster.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree, Big D. First of all, the Lakers and Celtics split the first two games in LA when Bynum had two great games. He was the best Laker on the floor in Game 2 and they still lost. Plus, it&#039;s not as if he didn&#039;t play at all in the series. He was playing hurt. A lot of guys play hurt. A 50% Bynum is not like him sitting out entirely.
Also, when has this guy been consistently healthy? When does the &quot;If/When Bynum gets healthy...&quot; line get old? He&#039;s a big, fragile body that is prone to injury. Bynum gave the Lakers almost nothing in last year&#039;s playoffs until the last few games of the finals. Most people forget that. He picked up cheap fouls and went to the bench, missed defensive assignments, and seemed generally soft and lackadaisical. It came to the point where Phil Jackson didn&#039;t even want to play him anymore. So, I think the Bynum argument has been blown way out of proportion. WHEN he plays well, healthy, with intensity, and in sync with his teammates, yeah, the Lakers are pretty good. How often is that? The Lakers have proven they&#039;re pretty good with a Gasol-Odom frontline and Bynum giving sporadic minutes. I think Perkins is more intrical to Boston&#039;s success than Bynum is to the Lakers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree, Big D. First of all, the Lakers and Celtics split the first two games in LA when Bynum had two great games. He was the best Laker on the floor in Game 2 and they still lost. Plus, it&#8217;s not as if he didn&#8217;t play at all in the series. He was playing hurt. A lot of guys play hurt. A 50% Bynum is not like him sitting out entirely.<br />
Also, when has this guy been consistently healthy? When does the &#8220;If/When Bynum gets healthy&#8230;&#8221; line get old? He&#8217;s a big, fragile body that is prone to injury. Bynum gave the Lakers almost nothing in last year&#8217;s playoffs until the last few games of the finals. Most people forget that. He picked up cheap fouls and went to the bench, missed defensive assignments, and seemed generally soft and lackadaisical. It came to the point where Phil Jackson didn&#8217;t even want to play him anymore. So, I think the Bynum argument has been blown way out of proportion. WHEN he plays well, healthy, with intensity, and in sync with his teammates, yeah, the Lakers are pretty good. How often is that? The Lakers have proven they&#8217;re pretty good with a Gasol-Odom frontline and Bynum giving sporadic minutes. I think Perkins is more intrical to Boston&#8217;s success than Bynum is to the Lakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Big D</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 01:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C mon Doc, dude didn&#039;t you see that Laker team in 2008. They were limping in, Luke Walton had just came back after missing a third of the season. No Trevor Arizza who gave the Lakers that defensive focus and brought so many easy baskets because of forcing turnovers. Last but not least Andrew Bynum was out with his injury. The Celtics have never faced this Laker team with a healthy Bynum. Perkins, Big Baby, KG etc.. Ask teams like the Suns and Utah how good this Laker team is with Bynum 100%. They were beating by margins you can&#039;t understand, some games were nearing 80 points in the second quarter. Oh yeah Kobe had the avulsion fracture Feb 14, 2008 on his finger. Doc, Laker fans wouldn&#039;t usually get into this type conversation. But lets keep it real dude, you need to give credit where it is due and take it like a man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C mon Doc, dude didn&#8217;t you see that Laker team in 2008. They were limping in, Luke Walton had just came back after missing a third of the season. No Trevor Arizza who gave the Lakers that defensive focus and brought so many easy baskets because of forcing turnovers. Last but not least Andrew Bynum was out with his injury. The Celtics have never faced this Laker team with a healthy Bynum. Perkins, Big Baby, KG etc.. Ask teams like the Suns and Utah how good this Laker team is with Bynum 100%. They were beating by margins you can&#8217;t understand, some games were nearing 80 points in the second quarter. Oh yeah Kobe had the avulsion fracture Feb 14, 2008 on his finger. Doc, Laker fans wouldn&#8217;t usually get into this type conversation. But lets keep it real dude, you need to give credit where it is due and take it like a man.</p>
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		<title>By: Myron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honestly Doc without a miraculous game from Ray Allen and facing a healthy Bynum and Kobe you would have won ONE game. If we step back one series a healthy Lebron would have caused MORE problems for the celts also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly Doc without a miraculous game from Ray Allen and facing a healthy Bynum and Kobe you would have won ONE game. If we step back one series a healthy Lebron would have caused MORE problems for the celts also.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You hit it right on the head with this one.....I hate when people talk about the 08 year.  We won the title with Bynum, Gasol, ariza, fisher, and kobe starting in 09. and then again with artest replacing ariza.  And im tired of hearing the game 7 was rigged stuff.  Stop whining, the lakers got more calls because they were more aggressive,they cleary won the rebound battle and won the battle of the paint, thats where the calls came from.  The Celtics still have not beaten us with a healthy Bynum and I guess you can say we havent beat the Celtics with a healthy Perkins...bottom line, Perkins was at full strength the first 6 games, Bynum was not, yet when Bynum was on the court, he was more productive...just imagine if he had been healthy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hit it right on the head with this one&#8230;..I hate when people talk about the 08 year.  We won the title with Bynum, Gasol, ariza, fisher, and kobe starting in 09. and then again with artest replacing ariza.  And im tired of hearing the game 7 was rigged stuff.  Stop whining, the lakers got more calls because they were more aggressive,they cleary won the rebound battle and won the battle of the paint, thats where the calls came from.  The Celtics still have not beaten us with a healthy Bynum and I guess you can say we havent beat the Celtics with a healthy Perkins&#8230;bottom line, Perkins was at full strength the first 6 games, Bynum was not, yet when Bynum was on the court, he was more productive&#8230;just imagine if he had been healthy</p>
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		<title>By: Jimee Johnnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimee Johnnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note to all fans: talk is cheap, but a whole lot of fun!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to all fans: talk is cheap, but a whole lot of fun!</p>
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		<title>By: McDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McDaddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.!</p>
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		<title>By: McDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McDaddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Wes,
No comment about &quot;if Bynum was healthy&quot; then L.A. would
win everytime they played Boston like the other delusional
Laker fans? That to me is a moot point because Mr. Bynum
has never been healthy for a whole season. So it does get old reading post after post whining about Bynum&#039;s health. I am an idiot for predicting Boston will beat Miami, calling out LeBron for his behavior against Orlando 2 years ago (not to mention the ESPN thing)and wanting my favorite team to beat the hated Lakers again?
Celticgirl, we men never grow up (and why do we have to, can&#039;t
we have a little fun) when it comes to sports. And if you are
a true Celtic fan then you would not have any problem with me
calling the Laker fans morons - ha,ha!  Because they are!
Go Doc! You are right! Beat L.A.! Beat L.A.! Beat L.A.!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Wes,<br />
No comment about &#8220;if Bynum was healthy&#8221; then L.A. would<br />
win everytime they played Boston like the other delusional<br />
Laker fans? That to me is a moot point because Mr. Bynum<br />
has never been healthy for a whole season. So it does get old reading post after post whining about Bynum&#8217;s health. I am an idiot for predicting Boston will beat Miami, calling out LeBron for his behavior against Orlando 2 years ago (not to mention the ESPN thing)and wanting my favorite team to beat the hated Lakers again?<br />
Celticgirl, we men never grow up (and why do we have to, can&#8217;t<br />
we have a little fun) when it comes to sports. And if you are<br />
a true Celtic fan then you would not have any problem with me<br />
calling the Laker fans morons &#8211; ha,ha!  Because they are!<br />
Go Doc! You are right! Beat L.A.! Beat L.A.! Beat L.A.!</p>
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		<title>By: wes unseld</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wes unseld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[McDaddy,
you are a MC Idiot shut the hell up, and crawl back under dic rivers underwear, and stay there until dec please...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McDaddy,<br />
you are a MC Idiot shut the hell up, and crawl back under dic rivers underwear, and stay there until dec please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: luffy</title>
		<link>http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/23/doc-rivers-on-the-lakers-they-still-have-not-beaten-our-starting-five/comment-page-4/#comment-24160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[luffy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 05:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WTF sprdagod?! LOL! Go back to your cave dude...
To Celticgirl, I think you&#039;re a rape victim that sued and didn&#039;t win, not Kobe&#039;s fault, pity you beeeyaach...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF sprdagod?! LOL! Go back to your cave dude&#8230;<br />
To Celticgirl, I think you&#8217;re a rape victim that sued and didn&#8217;t win, not Kobe&#8217;s fault, pity you beeeyaach&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mikesporty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikesporty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boston Sucks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boston Sucks!</p>
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		<title>By: sprdagod</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sprdagod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pep game he says that because one in 2008 bymum was not the starter odom and gasol started and with bynum being a backup thAT WAS HURT IS NOT A FACTOR AND I LIKE HIM but die hard celtic he has talent but why do harp on hi9m being injured he has ben that since the draft while perk has ben a steady starter and not injured  bynum 6yr never played 45 games ... the season is 82 only casuse he plays for la they arent saying bust ala oden great talent but a bust for injury so why the same lable when both have about the same ave s do you se what im getting at and they cant stop saying how old we are the first thing they say about celts but lakers are older why media makes up stories for pub]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pep game he says that because one in 2008 bymum was not the starter odom and gasol started and with bynum being a backup thAT WAS HURT IS NOT A FACTOR AND I LIKE HIM but die hard celtic he has talent but why do harp on hi9m being injured he has ben that since the draft while perk has ben a steady starter and not injured  bynum 6yr never played 45 games &#8230; the season is 82 only casuse he plays for la they arent saying bust ala oden great talent but a bust for injury so why the same lable when both have about the same ave s do you se what im getting at and they cant stop saying how old we are the first thing they say about celts but lakers are older why media makes up stories for pub</p>
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		<title>By: Celticgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Celticgirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Barry Tesar, you are right in your analysis of what happened in game 7, but here&#039;s a bigger question.  Why is Kobe Bryant, a womanizer and abuser who barely managed to buy his way out of a rape charge, the NBA&#039;s &quot;golden boy&quot;.  He ought to be ostracized by fans and sportswriters as well.  SHAME!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Barry Tesar, you are right in your analysis of what happened in game 7, but here&#8217;s a bigger question.  Why is Kobe Bryant, a womanizer and abuser who barely managed to buy his way out of a rape charge, the NBA&#8217;s &#8220;golden boy&#8221;.  He ought to be ostracized by fans and sportswriters as well.  SHAME!</p>
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		<title>By: luffy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[luffy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Send Vince Carter to Toronto and bring Turkoglu back to Orlando, then let&#039;s talk about the Magic being a championship contender. Now they&#039;re just a play-off team but not a championship team...
West Finals - Lakers vs. OKC/Utah, Lakers in 6 games...
East Finals - Celtics vs. Miami/Chicago, Celtics in 7 games...
Then Lakers 3peat in 6 games...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send Vince Carter to Toronto and bring Turkoglu back to Orlando, then let&#8217;s talk about the Magic being a championship contender. Now they&#8217;re just a play-off team but not a championship team&#8230;<br />
West Finals &#8211; Lakers vs. OKC/Utah, Lakers in 6 games&#8230;<br />
East Finals &#8211; Celtics vs. Miami/Chicago, Celtics in 7 games&#8230;<br />
Then Lakers 3peat in 6 games&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Tesar</title>
		<link>http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/23/doc-rivers-on-the-lakers-they-still-have-not-beaten-our-starting-five/comment-page-3/#comment-24155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Tesar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heck, The Celtics would have won if they had gotten the 20 extra free throws!  Gasol went up-and-down with the ball in the final minutes - every grade kid knows that is &quot;walking.&quot;  Do you really believe all the officials were looking somewhere else? I know it makes me look like a poor sport, but I truly believe the League wanted Kobe to win because that is the storyline they want to push for the coming season.  This was a pro-Laker thing, not an anti-Celtic thing.  just like when the NFL cheated with their &quot;Tuck-Rule&quot; fiasco. That wasn&#039;t pro Patriots, that was simply anti-Raiders.  The Patriots just happened to be the benefactors of the league&#039;s desire to keep the Raiders out of the Super Bowl. I wish it wasn&#039;t, but all sports are businesses first and I&#039;ve been around enough businesses to know that the boss usually gets what he wants.  Kobe is currently the NBA&#039;s Golden Boy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, The Celtics would have won if they had gotten the 20 extra free throws!  Gasol went up-and-down with the ball in the final minutes &#8211; every grade kid knows that is &#8220;walking.&#8221;  Do you really believe all the officials were looking somewhere else? I know it makes me look like a poor sport, but I truly believe the League wanted Kobe to win because that is the storyline they want to push for the coming season.  This was a pro-Laker thing, not an anti-Celtic thing.  just like when the NFL cheated with their &#8220;Tuck-Rule&#8221; fiasco. That wasn&#8217;t pro Patriots, that was simply anti-Raiders.  The Patriots just happened to be the benefactors of the league&#8217;s desire to keep the Raiders out of the Super Bowl. I wish it wasn&#8217;t, but all sports are businesses first and I&#8217;ve been around enough businesses to know that the boss usually gets what he wants.  Kobe is currently the NBA&#8217;s Golden Boy!</p>
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		<title>By: luffy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[luffy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, check out the 2008-2009 regular season games, both teams were complete and healthy and Lakers won both games. Don&#039;t worry coz I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll be a Lakers-Celtics finals again next season, just hope everybody is healthy so all the arguments about injuries and losing could be concluded...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, check out the 2008-2009 regular season games, both teams were complete and healthy and Lakers won both games. Don&#8217;t worry coz I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll be a Lakers-Celtics finals again next season, just hope everybody is healthy so all the arguments about injuries and losing could be concluded&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have u faker fans ever noticed every time u beat us its when where missing a key player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have u faker fans ever noticed every time u beat us its when where missing a key player.</p>
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		<title>By: B.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus I agree. It&#039;s like the game was never ending array of Kobe Bryant free throws.
No offense to the Lakers fans but if the officiating were much less biased we would see much closer and exciting games...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus I agree. It&#8217;s like the game was never ending array of Kobe Bryant free throws.<br />
No offense to the Lakers fans but if the officiating were much less biased we would see much closer and exciting games&#8230;</p>
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