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Who wins in four-team trade? Collison, Indiana and New Jersey big, but everyone really

Aug 11, 2010, 3:02 PM EDT

dcollison_dunk.jpgIt’s basketball — there is a winner and a loser. That’s the way it works.

Except the four-team trade that went down today every team can claim it won, at least something. But just like on Animal Farm where some animals are more equal than others, some trade winners are bigger than others.

Pacers: in Darren Collison, James Posey; out Troy Murphy

Indiana is maybe the biggest winner — as is Collison, who gets to go there. Jim O’Brien was trying to run an up-tempo offense with T.J. Ford running the show. It was ugly. The Pacers desperately needed someone quick who could handle the offense, and Collison is that guy. Collison is going to get the run he deserves (love him, wouldn’t start him over Chris Paul) in a system suited to his talents.

The Pacers take on James Posey, who will give them some solid play at the three. They give up Troy Murphy, which is a hit — the Pacers will run and may go small a lot, with Danny Granger playing a little four. The bulk of Murphy’s minutes will go to either Tyler Hansbrough or Josh McRoberts, whoever plays less bad. But the Pacers would have traded Murphy’s expiring deal for Collison in a heartbeat, so this is a win.

Nets: in Troy Murphy; out Courtney Lee

New Jersey also gets a big win.  Murphy is an upgrade over Derrick Favors at the four right now. Favors could be a loser in the deal if he takes this personally, the key is increasing his minutes as the year goes on and as he starts to get a feel for the NBA game. You don’t want to stunt his growth. But Murphy is in the last year of his deal, so you get to not rush the somewhat raw Favors then next year have $15.5 million in cap space (as the system currently stands, could be very different after the new CBA goes into place).

Another winner is Anthony Morrow, the shooting guard for New Jersey who doesn’t have to battle Courtney Lee for minutes. More Morrow is good for all basketball fans.

Houston: in Courtney Lee; out Trevor Ariza

Houston gets Lee, who they think may be a better fit for them than Trevor Ariza. Doesn’t really matter, Lee will be getting limited minutes behind Kevin Martin and have to earn his burn the hard way. But this works for the Rockets because they save a boatload of cash. Ariza is owed $20 million over the next three years, while Lee has one year left on his rookie deal at $1.35 million, plus a team option for the year after that.

This also helps a little with the logjam the Rockets had at the three. It’s Shane Battier’s job now, and he will get the bulk of the run.

Hornets: in Trevor Ariza; out James Posey, Darren Collison

The Hornets get Ariza, who is a good upgrade for them at the three, over what’s left of Peja. Ariza was not working as a first offensive option in Houston, but he’ll look good running alongside a real first option Chris Paul (providing Monty Williams lets them run as he should). They also get rid of the less desirable contract of James Posey.

Not sure that bringing in Ariza makes Paul say, “Man, no way I leave now,” but it shows the team is trying. But if it is not enough, if CP3 does bolt in two summers (or you have to trade him before he bolts), the Hornets have now traded away a very good replacement.

The question for the Hornets is this: Could they have gotten more for Collison? They essentially used Collison to upgrade the three some and save a little money. Collison was in demand, could they have gotten more? Probably.

But they can still claim a win.

  1. MJ - Aug 11, 2010 at 3:31 PM

    Hornets giving away players. Is it any wonder Paul wants to leave.
    Yes, they are trying, trying to make the team worse. Dumb trade.

  2. D - Aug 11, 2010 at 3:34 PM

    Shannon Brown re-signs with LA today. Trevor Ariza just got traded and is now on his 5th team. Suffice it to say, Ariza is earning more $$$ but Shannon may have more peace of mind.

  3. Adam - Aug 11, 2010 at 4:24 PM

    “The bulk of Murphy’s minutes will go to either Tyler Hansbrough or Josh McRoberts, whoever plays less bad.” haha well put, Kurt. Hornets should have gotten a draft pick or two from somebody in this trade. Collison > Ariza by quite a bit. Ultra quick point guard: an asset all GMs pine for, and Pacers wanted him BADLY, I’m sure.

  4. Yosef - Aug 11, 2010 at 6:56 PM

    Pretty crazy. A huge 4 team trade that involves key role players gets 3, 4 comments? While a non story about Lebron skipping breakfast would rack in over 20, 50 comments. People only like talking about what they like talking about I guess. Interesting trade though, curious to see what Collison can do.

  5. Sean - Aug 11, 2010 at 7:34 PM

    pacers got collison! haha new orleans is crazy…GIMMIE THOSE! we still aint winnin in the east but pacers fans have somthing to look forward to…

  6. JD - Aug 11, 2010 at 9:32 PM

    Say what you want but I think this was a bad deal for the Hornets. CP3 is leaving in 2 years. I don’t question that at all…the brat back has made their deal about ruining the league. Yes. Ruining the league. Collusion is not Competition. I digress…now, what do the Hornets do for a PG when he goes to NY? or gets injured?
    Posey needed to go – he was overpaid.
    So did Julian Wright – he was exciting to watch, but that was b/c he did whatever he wanted to do when he got on the court.
    Peja is next – overpaid for the number of minutes he gets paid.
    D West may be gone too – only has an 16-18ft jump shot, offers little presence in the paint…and he’s listed as a 4. Huh?
    I like the roster with CP, Ariza, D West and Okafor but they still need a 5. Okafor is too good and too paid to not get more minutes, but I think they still need another big man to compete in the West.
    Mr. Demps if you read this, please get another big man or 2 so you can move Okafor to the 4 for lengths of time and match up well with the Lakers.
    Maybe they should’ve traded for Kevin Love…

  7. joe - Aug 14, 2010 at 9:39 AM

    that was def. a good pick up for indiana i dont understand why the hornets would give up a solid point when cp3 is leaving at the 1st oppertunity he can boat but heyyyy w/e N.J. def. made out big to get murphy and to only have to give up CORNY LEE oooO i mean courtney lee ………….LMAO

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