Comments on: New Orleans, you don't have to trade Chris Paul

By: RJ

RJ — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:12:00 +0000

This is all nonsense, trade demands and unhappy players is nothing new. Players do it in all sports. If a team can trade a non preforming player, then hell a player can certainly ask to be traded from a non performing team. Does the team have to grant his wishes, absolutely not.
Kobe was vilified a couple years ago for doing worst, and now he’s being compared to Jordan. So get over it, and be happy you can a story to cover.

By: JD

JD — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:12:17 +0000

“Thanks for lobbing me a high, hard one, Hoops McCann, so I can hit it out of the park”. Yet you only give one example, Bulls vs Jazz. Hardly hitting “it out of the park” when you completely ignore the other 3 teams while at the same time attempt to weakly tie it in to one Bulls vs Jazz scenario.
Stop watching the NBA all you want, it’s within your right to think that the ‘Association’ is a joke. I, on the other hand, have the right to think that it is not entirely a joke, ‘The Decision’ aside.
To Anonymous: Excellent analysis of last year’s NBA Finals Game 7.No other way to put it, the Celtics got beat out of their own style, which I’m sure the Lakers relish even more.

By: loungefly

loungefly — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:48:07 +0000

Thank you. That is a great analysis of what happened. People want to blame crap on conspiracies, refs, etc…how about just the fact the celtics played like crap! Anyways…nice summary. Well done.

By: IceRod

IceRod — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:22:54 +0000

Jim, since when did it become a crime to do things your way. Lebron not only did what he wanted to do, he did it the way he wanted to do it. Sure it was the worst possible scenario for the Cavs; but that doesn’t compare to what he’s done to that organization and for that city. Further, how many times does ownership & management treat the players like a piece of meat leaving them to claim its business. They uproot families, friends and relationships established at critical times in a players life without any warning. And the players are left to swallow the “its only business” pill.
Also, Lebron, Wade and Bosh have played there asses off risking career ending injuries trying to be champions because they had no real help. The Cavs had their chance, now Lebron, Wade and Bosh have there chance. Let’s be fair.

By: RockinRick

RockinRick — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:06:56 +0000

Thanks for lobbing me a high, hard one, Hoops McCann, so I can hit it out of the park. You need to read Tim Donaghy’s book, “Personal Foul”. He specifically named 3 of the 4 instances you noted above as games being fixed. He named game 7 of the 2000 Portland-Lakers series, game 6 of 2002 Sacramento-Laker series, & Game 6 of the Bulls-Jazz series in 1998 as fixes. He dedicated around 10 full pages to the Sacramento game. Do I believe him, heck yes, it all makes sense. People thought Jose Canseco was a quack also. I had suspected all this for years & his book tied it all together. It has always seemed fishy to me that any controversial game EVER has ended with the big market teams winning. Sooner or later the odds would dictate otherwise if it was legit. Do you remember one game EVER where the Lakers or Bulls got screwed & Portland or Utah won? Of course you don’t because it’s NEVER happened. I won’t go over the Lakers-Portland & Lakers-Sacramento games, but once again read the book. As for the Bulls-Jazz game, you can watch the replay & you will see how obvious it was. And I’m not even talking about Jordan’s obvious offensive foul that wasn’t called on his game winning shot and pose. There were 2 separate 3 point attempts, both of which went in during that game, that altered it forever in the Bulls favor. In the second quarter, Jeff Hornacek of Utah shot a 3 that went in, but the refs incorrectly ruled that it was after the shot clock expired. Replays clearly showed it wasn’t & should have counted. It was not reversed. Later, early in the 4th quarter, Ron Harper of the Bulls shot another 3, that also went in. This time, however, it was clearly after the clock expired, but the refs said it was good. Replays again showed it should not have counted. Guess what??? Not reversed. A 6 point swing in favor of the wretched Bulls. So Jordan’s last second push off shouldn’t have even mattered. If only one of those calls had been made correctly, the Jazz would have been up by 4, when Jordan pushed off on Bryon Russell. If both had been made correctly, they would have been up by 7. Watch the DVD. I guarantee it’s on there. I watched it again about a month ago. Read the book. And Stern has done nothing about this. That’s because he’s behind it. It’s a travesty. The “Association” is a joke. And that’s why I won’t be watching. I already know the ending. And hopefully there is a lockout next year & it erases the whole year. These bozos deserve it.

By: Hoops McCann

Hoops McCann — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:49:03 +0000

Hey RockinRick -
“Maybe a period of 10 years where at least 4-5 small market teams like Portland, Utah, Indiana, Sacramento won championships. I’m not holding my breath.”
PORTLAND was up by 15 points in the 4th quarter in game 7 of the 2000 Western Conf championship game and had one of the great meltdowns in sports as the Lakers came roaring back to beat them. And their were practically zero fouls called in that 4th quarter so you can’t blame the refs. They would have easily beaten Philadelphia.
INDIANA went on to play the Lakers in the Finals that year – they had their chance.
UTAH had two chances in the Finals against the Bulls in the late 90s. They should have won at least one of them.
SACRAMENTO lost game 6 by a whisker and game 7 at home in overtime to the Lakers in the WC finals. How? They missed almost every shot they took in the overtime. Can’t blame the refs for that. Sacramento surely would have gone on to win the title against New Jersey as the Lakers swept them. They had their chance for a title.
So there are your 4 teams that all should have at least one ring. Quit blaming David Stearn et al with your conspiracy theories. Recognize the reality. There was only one common thread that prevented these small market teams from getting a ring, and it wasn’t Stearn or the refs -
it was Phil Jackson.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:26:38 +0000

RockinRick has been taking lessons in revisionist history again -
“Funny how the Celtics controlled game 7 from the start until the 4th quarter when the Lakers mysteriously shot 21 free throws, more than the Celts had for the entire game. ”
The Celtics did not control the game by any measure other than outshooting the Lakers. The Lakers were destroying the Celtics on the boards. Half way into the 3rd quarter the incredible effort that the Celtics had expended on defense began to catch up with them. By the 4th quarter they were completely fatigued. As the Lakers made their comeback the crowd boosted their adrenaline and they became even more energetic and kept pouring it on. When you are that much more fatigued than the other team there’s only one way to try to slow down the other team and that is to foul and hope the fouls aren’t called. There is nothing mysterious about it. Just watch the game. The refs did miss Gasol’s up and down turnover but that was about it. I’ve watched game 7 ten times and I have yet to see where the Celtics got called for fouls that they didn’t commit. If the Celtics hadn’t made those 3 spectacular 3 pointers in a row the Lakers would have won going away by 11 to 13 points.

By: RockinRick

RockinRick — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:52:49 +0000

JD, Either you didn’t read my post or you’re too dim to figure out what I was saying. I hate the Heat almost as much as I hate the wretched Lakers. Let me spell it out for you. The NBA sucks because as presently constituted, it is rigged by the league office office & refs, so that only 4-8 big market teams (yes, San Antonio is a big market, 7th largest city in USA at 1.2 million, Houston is 4th)are ever allowed to really compete for the ultimate prize, championships. Only a total of 8 big market teams have won all of the last 31 champinships. Look it up. In the NFL,during the same period 15 different teams have experienced championship parades. Sure there are some dynasties there also with the 49ers, Cowboys, Steelers winning several. But at least the NFL isn’s so chicken$#!^ that it don’t let small market teams win. They survive that. Some of the most successful teams in NFL history are small market teams. The Steelers have won the most Super Bowls- 6 & hail from a town of just over 400,000. The Packers have won the most overall NFL championships going back to the days before the Super Bowl & they hail from a town of less than 200,000. And you know what, both of those franchises have immense fan bases. Go to a road game where those teams are playing & you’ll see so many of their jerseys, it’ll make you dizzy. But the NBA & David Stermn are too gutless to let that happen. The last small market team to win a championship was the Seattle SuperSonics all the way back in 1979 (another blight on the NBA is the shameful way, Stern’s $%#@ buddy Clay Bennett was allowed to pirate the always profitable Sonics away from Seattle when there are at least 4 franchises in dire financial straights). As for MoRon’s comments, yes I do believe Chris Paul should honor his contract. It once again is for more money than you and I could ever imagine & he signed it at a time when the Hornets were looking good, the number 2 seed in the west in 08. His free agency comes up in two years, he can leave then & go to one of the superteams. No, I’m completely fed up with an NBA system that allows stuff like that to happen. The only way I’d come back to the NBA is if I truly believed it wasn’t rigged, which I’d have to see to believe. Maybe a period of 10 years where at least 4-5 small market teams like Portland, Utah, Indiana, Sacramento won championships. I’m not holding my breath. I’m certain it won’t happen. Things will just continue to be manipulated so that teams like the wretched Lakers & Heat keep winning all the titles. At least the World Wrestling Federation & Harlem Globetrotters are honest about it.

By: LCD Soundsystem

LCD Soundsystem — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:26:58 +0000

Chris Paul should play for the Knicks. It is in the best interests of the NBA to have competitive superstar stocked teams in LA, NY, Boston, and Texas…these are the most passionate and largest sports markets. Miami is not a great sports market, but players seem to enjoy the beaches – which is fine…
Of the cities listed above, only NY is non-competitive right now. Chris Paul changes that the instant he puts on a Knicks jersey. Teaming him and Stoudamire this season puts the Knicks in 50 win territory. Add Carmelo Anthony next season, the Knicks jump to 60-65 win territory.
With NY, Miam, and Boston all winning 60 games…and the Mavericks, Spurs and Lakers winning close to 60 games…the league will be making more money than ever before…
Because the TV markets will be fully exploited. I’m sorry, but this is a good thing for the NBA – it’s simply good for business.

By: terry

terry — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:26:05 +0000

Larry Coon
what a name

By: luffy

luffy — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:17:50 +0000

Amen Bro! Right on the bucket…

By: TNA

TNA — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:50:40 +0000

At the end of the day does it really matter! Everyone wants to complain about how LeBron did his thing even Jordan, Magic, and Charles wanna give their opinion like they were perfect. That man made the decision he made because he could. We all take the opportunities that are presented to us based on how it could help or hinder our life…. why shouldn’t LeBron? Hell he got tired of carrying them fools in the playoffs. They may have helped through out the season but when it counted no one came to help! We all get tired of that one co-worker that’s getting paid but is not pulling their workload. Either you’re a fan of CP3 & LeBron or you’re not!!! Look in the damn mirror and leave them MILLIONAIRES ALONE! Would you let one of them tell you what you should do for your life? Hell NO!!!

By: Michael Brooks

Michael Brooks — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:22:04 +0000

Are you guys dumb or what? Do you really think Kobe was about to leave LA? This is what palyers do to apply preesure and bring attention to their situation. I don’t believe for one second he intended to leave. I think he believed from the start he was going to get his way i.e. improvement in the roster. I also believe that the LA front office would probably have added pieces anyway.

By: MJ

MJ — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:21:38 +0000

Right Massa, I bow, I scrape, I be a good boy. You own me, that’s for sure. I so dumb, you tell me what to do.

By: E

Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:04:37 +0000

As a long-time public schools coach at the high school level, this situation clearly illustrates for me the dangers of the “AAU-ification” of sports today. The rise of AAU basketball and all of the shadowy figures brought in to cater to the whims of the latest “can’t miss” prospect has contributed to the demise of the team concept in high school sports, which I would argue has done a great deal to damage this concept at the collegiate and professional levels, as well. When athletes are brought up on the notion of aligning themselves with other big name players for the ridiculous number of games played by AAU teams in the off-season, that mentality eventually makes its way into their decisions about where they will gather to play high school ball, as well. Gone are the days when you played for the communty you were born in because the concept of what a community is for these players is constantly massaged by those telling them how great they are. Since many of these athletes who have been catered to for years spend one year at best in college, or go straight to the pros with their groups of “yes men” intact, there is really no opportunity for the growth most of experience when we leave home. Living a life where no one tells you no, or no one helps you to develop the skills needed to overcome adversity only serves to make decision making that is self-serving that much easier. Most of my colleagues have expressed concerns about the disturbing trends that have become more and more commonplace as this “AAU-ification” of high school athletics has grown, and it only seems logical that these same trends would manifest themselves as the athletes reach the next levels of competition.

By: Nick

Nick — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:53:38 +0000

When the owner says “jump” the ONLY response from a player under contract is “How high?”

By: Scott

Scott — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:00:54 +0000

I hope if they trade him, the Lakers would be a great spot. Get rid of Odom and Bynam for Paul and okafer.

By: rocwwm

rocwwm — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:27:04 +0000

Chris is under contract until 2012 and that’s the way it should play out. He is the player, not the GM or the coach.
He is being paid to play basketball to the best of his ability and nothing else.
Wouldn.t give a cent to see Kobe Bryant or Lebron James, not even buy anything which includes their names.
In fact, maybe fans should just not attend any game they play. Then and only then will their “value” drop. Or, at least, give them the cold shoulder (open the newspaper and hold it in front), as those players are introduced.
I feel the “big” three planned that move in 2006 when they signed contracts that would let them go in 2010. They were going to be on the same team, although maybe not the Heat.
I was the clock operator, first on the shot clock, and later the game clock (1.5 years) for the N.O. Bucs. I remember a game in which the Bucs were getting creamed at halftime and remarking to my friend who was the official scorer; man this is going to be a long night. His remark was, don’t worry the refs will let the Bucs back in the game (free throws) and then let them play the last two minutes. And damn if it did’t happen that way. The Bucs lost anyway by several points.
I can believe that the Lakers got help to win the series.
Regards
rocwwm

By: Cordae

Cordae — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:11:24 +0000

While CP3 is among the leagues best……youre wrong. the only thing he does better than lebron is shoot. I do agree LeBron is a freak of nature in size. But he’s versatile. His stats were better than ANY point-guard in the league over that 13 game stretch when Mo went down. By all means I’m not saying He should play the three, but come on now Nate robinson plays bigger than CP3 in the paint. lol i’m sure you notice…..if you watch basketball..
And Kurt………..I’m LOVING your articles more and more everyday. You’re bringing up points your colleagues FAIL to. Kobe was the BIGGEST crybaby when he wanted to leave, rightfully so! He knew what victory took and the lakers didnt have it at that point. So UNLIKE CLEVELAND! what did they do? Went out and got GOOD talent! Not washed up has-beens. And all of you bitter LeBron haters fail to realize that he didnt take the Kobe-CP3 route…….he never fixed his mouth to say “I want out of Cleveland” you all would scrutinize him just as much if he did. Thats a damn shame….

By: jason

jason — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:55:36 +0000

John,
Don’t try to compare Lebron to Chris Paul. Lebron has been compared to MJ and Kobe since high school. No one has ever said Chris paul is the next MJ or Kobe. You’re trying to compare apples to oranges. Don’t be so ignorant man…BUT, if he or anyone else goes on nat’l tv and does what Lebron did, they will be scrutinized. Hopefully, no one will ever do what Lebron did, that was classless to say the least.

By: Dr. Jay

Dr. Jay — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:43:43 +0000

Hey Rick,
Whine much?
J

By: Murray Rizberg

Murray Rizberg — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:14:46 +0000

Actually, you CAN compare CP3 to LBJ: inch-for-inch, CP3 is probably a better basketball player than LeBron. Unfortunately, CP3 is only six-feet tall, which is a huge disadvantage in the NBA. If CP3 had LeBron’s height, he would be considered the best basketball player in the world: he is a superb ball handler and passer; he shoots well from the outside; he drives the lane effectively (either finishes the layup, draws fouls or finds the open man); he gets position well and gets plenty of rebounds; and he has superior court vision and anticipation – what does Chris Paul NOT to do well?!?
His only weakness is his height – that’s it. And if not for that, he would be considered the game’s best.

By: Murray Rizberg

Murray Rizberg — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:12:56 +0000

By: SonOfaNOLA

SonOfaNOLA — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:41:05 +0000

The comments some of you make crack me up. The moron (CP3) is a player under contract.
This guy is a player under contract who is getting well paid and is going to demand things of the people who employ him.
A player under contract is going to force a team to not only trade him but trade him to a team of his liking.
This is what is wrong with the NBA. The inmates run the asylum. I just think of the reaction an NFL team would have to something like this.
It would probably go something like this:
Tony Romo: Jerry I don’t like playing for the Boys anymore your not trying to build a winner here I want to get traded to the Vikings or the Stealers.
Jerry Jones: Tony I am gona do you a favor your fired and good luck getting any big money contracts after this nonsense you pulled here today that I will make sure to tell the whole world about this
The guaranteed contracts have…repeated have to go. The NBA has to pull back a lot of that power that has all gone to the players. Players shouldn’t be picking coaches and holding owners hostage. I fear that most of you will disagree with me and in that case this transcends sports and society has just become that messed up. It is called respect for you superiors and loyalty to more than just yourself.

By: JD

JD — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:32:41 +0000

Where I come from, planet Earth, when a losing franchise is hemmorhaging money, it does what it can to cut cost even if it means trading their best asset away. CP3 and the New Orleans Hornets are now on the same boat. These are not “give-away” trades. So what planet are you from? Oh, BTW, Memphis seems to have built another set of young talent on that squad with the draft picks they received from the Lakers…This trade is not, IS NOT, as one sided as it seems.

By: Dave G.

Dave G. — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:18:56 +0000

There was a trade involving Pau Gasol? Where I come from it’s called a give-a-way. Try and tell me again the NBA isn’t fixed!

By: JD

JD — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:13:57 +0000

Making excuses for your Miami Heat already I see.

By: JD

JD — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:02:51 +0000

I hope Chris Paul changes his mind. He has been a tremendous asset to the Hornets organization. If he has learned anything from ‘The Decision’, he should hire a better production core than LeBron James did. I mean for goodness sake is Jim Gray the best you can do, LeBron? CP3 should get Hannah Storm.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:48:50 +0000

MoRon:
I think the point is that CP3′s opportunity to leave comes at the end of his deal. If he is unhappy with the Hornets, then move on. Until then, happy, angry, weepy, or indifferent, Chris Paul is under contract, making many millions of dollars, and – yes- he should accept that and be a professional.
Now, from the Hornets’ standpoint, it would behoove the team to try to improve and hope to keep their superstar long term, but that should not be CP3′s concern.

By: Juan Bernal

Juan Bernal — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:41:20 +0000

Well, I see that the self-proclaimed “King James” has led the way of spoiled, millionaire brats who cannot work to win with their teams but demand the instant road to glory —- teamed up with other millionaire brats. Although I have followed the NBA since the Celtics were perennial winners in the 50-60s and the Lakers moved to LA — Go Elgin Baylor and Jerry West! — I’m now ready to propose that the whole stinking outfit (NBA OF SPOILED MILLIONAIRE BRATS) be disbanded in favor of real athletes who love competition and compete well, instead of looking to becoming millionaire celebrities. Lebron-type-action is what we (fans, NBA, coaches, promoters) have created; yes it is an ugly monster!