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Winderman: Tampering? That's a bigger fantasy than the one LeBron/Wade/Bosh had

Jul 12, 2010, 1:07 PM EDT

Thumbnail image for bosh_wade_james.jpgFirst there are negotiations.

Then there are signings.

And then there are recriminations.

On that last count, we thought it wouldn’t get any more ludicrous than Dan Gilbert’s opening statement, and it certainly was a doozy.

But this tampering talk might just top it.

Look, players talk, players plan, players dream.

You want to keep superstars from congregating, then kill the dream team, send the college kids back off to slaughter.

Because if you’re going to sequester the game’s elite for several weeks every other year, have them buy into Mike Krzyzewski’s Kumbaya, then this is what you are going to get: Greatness finding a way toward other greatness.

When it comes to some sort of preordained, rock-solid Wade-Bosh-‘Bron pact, first consider late March and early April at AmericanAirlines Arena.

There, in a tunnel leading to the locker room, were phone banks, being manned during games, selling Heat 2010-11 tickets at a discount. The television broadcasts made you feel as if you were part of a PBS membership drive. Pat Riley even sat in during one broadcast, pitching product as if channeling Billy Mays.

If you have any iota you’re landing Wade, Bosh, ‘Bron, you’re not offering free popcorn and souvenir T-shirts.

Then go back to mid-February, when the Heat’s aggression in pushing for an Amare Stoudemire trade reached the point of fervor.

If Stoudemire was obtained, an extension would have followed. And Wade-Bosh-‘Bron would have ended right there.

And then there was were those recruiting trips by Heat management at the outset of free agency, the meetings with Stoudemire and Brendan Haywood and anyone else who could be tempted while crossing time zones.

All for show? At 65, Pat Riley doesn’t do the redeye for show.

Yes, Wade, Bosh and ‘Bron had this vision for years

Just like the Knicks had their vision when they cleared the cap.

Just like the Bulls did when they dealt Kirk Hinrich.

But for any owner, other than the owner of the Cavaliers or Raptors, to discuss any tampering claim over Wade, Bosh and ‘Bron is basically calling the owners of Knicks and Bulls, and others in the chase, a group of imbeciles, because they should have known this was all preordained.

By crying foul at this late date, they would be admitting that they were hoodwinked, that they never positioned their own franchises to succeed. That they failed.

Ira Winderman writes regularly for and covers the Heat and the NBA for the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

  1. NBA is a joke... - Jul 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM

    AND they throw games in order to fulfill their own agenda (LeQuitter in the playoffs against Boston). I wouldn’t be surprised if LeFraud’s “associates” bet against Cleveland in the playoffs.
    The NBA is nothing more than WWE now.

  2. CDB - Jul 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM

    You hit the nail on the head …

  3. nunya - Jul 12, 2010 at 1:54 PM

    Here’s the thing about Toronto not complaining…no one really cares that much that Bosh is gone….a losing team is a losing team…no more RuPauls!

  4. Ira is a sellout too... - Jul 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM

    “Ira Winderman writes regularly for and covers the Heat and the NBA for the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.”
    LMAO! No kidding!

  5. Ogyu - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:01 PM

    Thanks, Homer Q. Moron.

  6. Ogyu - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM

    Thanks, Homer Q. Moron.

  7. bg - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:19 PM

    verrrrrry objective.
    the only imbecile is the one who wrote out this ‘logic’.
    you might be stretching things just a bit for the old hometown there, homer.
    did i mention that ira is a homer?

  8. yep - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:19 PM

    Of course Mr. Winderman is in full support of this deal. It gives him some material for his newspaper columns the next several years. Not like he’s going to get much out of the Dolphins or Marlins anytime soon…

  9. Phil - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:31 PM

    There is only one city that will be happy about this deal. Fortunately, I live here.

  10. Lesco - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM

    Bunch of sour grapes; it’s almost laughable. Everyone out there including the Bulls, Knicks, Cavs and Nets wanted this trifecta and if Cleveland wanted to keep Lebron, they “shoulda put a ring on it”.

  11. Chad - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM

    Wow…I cannot believe Mark Cuban and the other owners are complaining about this. This is just SOUR GRAPES, get over it. Here are the facts:
    1) Cleveland did not surround LBJ with enought talent to win.
    2) Florida has no State Income Tax
    3) Weather, fun, women, entertainment, etc. of Miami and South Beach.
    4) Chicago, Cleveland, and NY all have terrible winters/weather.
    5) Only Miami had enough cap space to sign the TRES MAGNIFICO.
    6) Come it is a no brainer Miami over Cleveland, anyone person in there 20s would have choosen Miami. (see number 3)
    For those in Cleveland/Ohio that don’t like LBJ’s ego driven and self-fulling “Decision”…I have no problem w/that complaint b/c that was in bad taste. However, do not gripe b/c he did not choose your City.
    Oh and it may get worse in 2012 b/c I think Riley wants to have the “FOUR KINGS”, b/c rumors are already circulating that Chris Paul wants to come to the HEAT!
    GO HEAT and the TRES MAGNIFICO!!!!

  12. Ken - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM

    If three team owners decided to trade all their best players to one of their teams and them split all profits, would that be OK ?
    Isn’t that essentially what happened when Jester James, Wade and Bosh all decided to join the Miami Heat several months if not years ago ?
    It’s collusion whether it’s by the players or the owners.

  13. Cire - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:49 PM

    And you’re a Gomer, fool. And you live in which rustbelt city?
    We love watching all the whining going on from all of YOU LOSERS!
    wha wha wha hahahahah
    Watch out Gomer – the Heat just signed another straggler. I’ll buy you a beer when I see you so you can cry in it.

  14. Matt Lowe - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:49 PM

    They met in a room and worked essentially changed the industry……..sounds like collusion to me.

  15. Cire - Jul 12, 2010 at 2:58 PM

    And you were there, right?
    You made a stupid comment ….. sounds like a fool to me.
    I’m tempted to tell you to get smart and start rooting for the Heat, but better for you to back your hometown LOSER team.

  16. johnmaine - Jul 12, 2010 at 3:02 PM

    Carmelo Anthony gets married, LeBron gets booed, Chris Paul refers to New York’s “own big three”:

  17. Motoko - Jul 12, 2010 at 3:03 PM

    Winderman is correct.
    According to ESPN, their reporter asked David Stern if the so called “Summit” was allowed on the NBA free agency rules. He said they could have their summit and he obviously was aware that the three were talking to one another back on June 1.
    What else that was very telling about this is the fact that on Thursday after Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade said they were signing with the Heat, a reporter asked how much Bosh was going to be paid? Bosh said, “I have no idea but it is not about the money.”
    I believe none of the three had any idea what the bottom line was going to be, nor did Pat Riley. What is probably more logical is that Micky Arison gave the bean counters for the 3 players a number he was willing to spend and told them to “figure it out among themselves.”
    To the credit of the agents involved, not only did they get the 3 contracts signed, but left 50 Million Dollars laying on the table to use to fill out the roster.
    If anything, that is what has Mark Cuban and some other owners getting their panties all waded up because Professional Athletes just don’t do that. Its supposed to be every man for himself grabbing all the cash you can with long drawn out silly negotiations. Or at the very least, it typically does not work out so easy as it did for Micky Arison and his organization.
    Clearly, the fact that Wade, Bosh and most imporantly James, are all so willing get the business side out of the way and move on to the more important business of preparing for the Season shows that these 3 NBA players mean business.

  18. johnmaine - Jul 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM

    Carmelo Anthony gets married, LeBron gets booed, Chris Paul refers to New York’s “own big three”:

  19. dennis - Jul 12, 2010 at 3:11 PM

    Re Chris Paul–He’s gonna come & play for the minimum & throw away about 20 mil a year to be with his pals. Sure!

  20. dennis - Jul 12, 2010 at 3:24 PM

    Where do you get 50 mil laying on the table? From the total amt each gave up over the 6 years? That’s about 8.5 mil per year to fill out the roster. Not much.

  21. Surrounded - Jul 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM

    So the team that won the most regular season games two years in a row did not surround LeBron with enough talent????? He wasn’t playing with a bunch of stiffs and “superstars” are supposed to be able to carry a team when it isn’t playing up to potential. The only constant on that team during the playoffs the last two years couldn’t play up to Wade’s standards and lost.
    Who besides Shaq clogging the middle helped Wade win his ring?
    Also, Cleveland and Toronto were the two teams that weren’t complaining about tampering. Mark Cuban is the one that brought it up.

  22. Larry - Jul 12, 2010 at 3:30 PM

    So people believe Henry Thomas and his agency weren’t involved having Bosh and Wade, and all the negotiations with the Heat happened after July first and were held in 6 days. That’s a real stretch.
    Lots of phony trips and BS statements by all of the three players invoved in just a few days. Had they waited a couple or 3 weeks or so after the 1st to come out with this it would be one thing. But it came out 7 days after the ist and on the the ist day that signings could happen. Very hard to believe it all came together so fast. If Riley didn’t have some kind of idea he doesn’t umnload some quality players as he could be stuck with a 20 win team if no one signerd with Miami.
    Best yet is that Stern who projected last Dec. that the cap would be 50-54 M and a few weeks ago comes out and says it will be 56.1 M. Then on signing day he says it is now at 58 M giving the Heat who had done everything to clear more cap room, more space to sign all 3 players now at about 110 M apiece. Hope they can keep their lights on for that kind of money They gave up so much. The bogus cap projections by Stern smell as bad as as the Scott Foster (referee) 120 calls of short duration before and after games to Donaghy’s gambling phne that were determined to be irrelevent.

  23. michelle502 - Jul 12, 2010 at 3:42 PM

    What part of ‘FREE AGENCY’ doesn’t anyone understand?!!! LeBron needed help on the court – the head honchos in Cleveland didn’t care about what LeBron needed or else those self-righteous hyprocrits would have done what it took to make sure LeBron had help. NO ONE – and I mean NO ONE – despite what the media says – can win a championship alone!!!!!!!! Therefore, LeBron saw he wasn’t going to have any meaingful help, and went the way it made sense for him – which was Miami. If the owners are crying ‘foul’ about this because these 3 superstars are together, then why aren’t they investigating the Lakers for the superstars they have? Or Boston, for theirs? Bottom line: the owners are spoiled crybabies who don’t care about their players – just the profits. GO MIAMI HEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. dennis - Jul 12, 2010 at 4:04 PM

    Michelle, please. You don’t know a thing about the Cavs or you would not make this statement. They spent everything they possibly could, including paying Shaq over 20 mil for just this past season, trying to get the pieces around LBJ to win the championship. Over 60 wins & best record in the league the past 2 years. BTW, you mention Boston & LA. Can you name at least 2 players from each team (without checking). I doubt it.

  25. johnmaine - Jul 12, 2010 at 4:07 PM

    The new 68-team NCAA Tournament format has just been released by the Division I Men’s Basketball Committee:

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