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Report: Amare Stoudemire, New York Knicks have framework of a deal set

Jul 2, 2010, 1:45 PM EDT

Thumbnail image for Stoudemire_walk.jpgThe New York Knicks have offered Amare Stoudemire a five-year, max contract deal that he may well accept.

The framework of the deal is in place but the details still need to be hammered out, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo. Still, that could happen by the end of the day.

The move could reunite Stoudemire and coach Mike D’Antoni and his seven-seconds-or-less offense. Stoudemire flourished in that offense (when Steve Nash was feeding him the ball) but the two clashed at times. There were rumors both Stoudemire and D’Antoni did not really want to work together again, although publicly it was all puppy dogs and rainbows and love between the two.

This comes after Stoudemire turned down the last offer from the Suns — three years max with the fourth and fifth years guaranteed based on minutes played in the previous years.

The Knicks had wanted to use a signing like Stoudemire to help pitch LeBron James yesterday as a place that he could win on the court, not just make a lot of money. Because in reality, those two things are tied together.

  1. JAY - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:00 PM

    can we stop, PLEEEAAASSSEEE STOP, all the: “reportedly”.. “May have a deal”.. “There were rumors”.. “could happen”..
    Whats wrong with waiting until deals are actually Officially reported?!? stop the “waste of print” until its Official !!!
    –SERENITY NOW !!!–

  2. Ryan - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:10 PM

    Ewww…Amare is good, but he isn’t a max player. He won’t have steve nash feeding him the ball and he’s a F/C at 6’10 that can’t even manage 7 rebounds a game. He MIGHT be a good fit with David Lee, but if we sign another max player, Lee will be out of the picture. I’m 50/50 on this.

  3. ron - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:14 PM

    completely agree. mental masturbation. you should see what the nba channel is doing with aldridge.try watching. its torture. they speculate over speculation for hours

  4. steve - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:16 PM

    completely agree. mental masturbation. you should see what the nba channel is doing with aldridge.try watching. its torture. they speculate over speculation for hours

  5. SilkCityP - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM

    I can understand that people criticizing some parts of Amare’s game… but I will say this! He is better than Bosh by a landslide. I believe Amare is dedicated to working on his Defense and his rebounding! I’m pretty sure many people have spoken to him about this during the offseason, 1 of which I know for a fact has been Charles Barkley who averaged 12 rebounds a game for his career… So I expect an improvement from Amare in both those areas of his game

  6. Chris Corbett - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM

    I have the honor of working in basketball player development (http://www.austinyouthbasketball.com) and wonder how all this free agent hoopla impacts our young basketball players. Celebrity chefs, owners flying jets to Akron, powerpoint presentations by Interpublic… it all kind of sucks the fun out of the game. David Stern has mastered the art of PR calendar campaign and now has freeagentpalooza taking center stage over the World Cup. Anyone have any thoughts? (I must admit- I get pretty excited seeing Lebron photshopped into a Knicks jersey.)

  7. Larry - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:41 PM

    Most of this are far more than rumors and are reported by agents involved in the negotiations who have close ties to the reporters. All are not true of course.
    The deals PHX has agreed to for role players Frye and Warrick tell you Amare is gone and he they wouldn’t have broke off negotiation if a deal was virtually eminent.
    Suns owner Sarver is “bleeding money”. The writing is on the wall. His bank has taken a beating in losses and GM Kerr and ast. GM Griffin bailed out before the drat and free agent signinsg. They see what’s happening.

  8. Joamiq - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:46 PM

    @SilkCityP: Better than Bosh? Hahahahahahahahaha.
    I’m glad that you have such faith in Amare. Unfortunately, he can’t play D to save his life, nor can he rebound well enough. This isn’t a new problem. He hasn’t improved in those areas in 8 years. EIGHT. People around him have known of his deficiencies for a while, and yet he hasn’t been able to improve. Why would that change now? Because Chuck Barkley mentioned something to him? Even if Barkley coached him one-on-one, what would he teach Amare? You couldn’t possibly have two more different PFs.
    As a Knick fan, I’m laughing because I’ve already cried all my tears.

  9. CyberCosmiX - Jul 2, 2010 at 2:59 PM

    I must say, as a Laker fan – I LOVE THIS! Break up all the free-agents, send them to all parts of the NBA and remove the ‘super-team’ illusion that people were buying into. This more assures the Lakers three-peat chances, and frankly gives these players the excuse that ‘they didn’t have enough around them’ that they are so comfortable using.
    LeBron gave up, Stoudamire was baby-fed passes from Nash for years, Bosh had some pretty good pieces around him, Joe Johnson too. D-Wade probably had the least help, and he is probably the BEST free-agent out there – yes, better than the overhyped LeBron.
    If Amare couldn’t win in Phoenix with Nash, Raja Bell, Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion, Boris Diaw, Leandro Barbosa running D’Antoni’s offense, why the heck would he think he’d even get a sniff of the playoffs – in the Eastern Conference no less – playing for the Knicks and their 4-players under contract?
    Just go though, I’d have the hear the bickering excuses of an assembled ‘super-team’ when they are one-and-done in the playoffs next couple of years…

  10. CyberCosmiX - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:00 PM

    I must say, as a Laker fan – I LOVE THIS! Break up all the free-agents, send them to all parts of the NBA and remove the ‘super-team’ illusion that people were buying into. This more assures the Lakers three-peat chances, and frankly gives these players the excuse that ‘they didn’t have enough around them’ that they are so comfortable using.
    LeBron gave up, Stoudamire was baby-fed passes from Nash for years, Bosh had some pretty good pieces around him, Joe Johnson too. D-Wade probably had the least help, and he is probably the BEST free-agent out there – yes, better than the overhyped LeBron.
    If Amare couldn’t win in Phoenix with Nash, Raja Bell, Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion, Boris Diaw, Leandro Barbosa running D’Antoni’s offense, why the heck would he think he’d even get a sniff of the playoffs – in the Eastern Conference no less – playing for the Knicks and their 4-players under contract?
    Just go though, I’d have the hear the bickering excuses of an assembled ‘super-team’ when they are one-and-done in the playoffs next couple of years…

  11. Mike D - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:05 PM

    hey ryan, you know amare has avg ovr 8 rebs a game, sometimes over 9 for his whole career, last he avg. nearly 24 pts a game, he blocks shot and get steal, hes also a very good FT shooter, and shoots over 50% from the feild. With his talent and athletic ability he’ll be godo anywhere, you ever think that he made nash better as well, you cant be an MVP pg without good players around you, the fact of the matter is, this move makes the knick more attractive to potential free agents most notably lebron,
    lebron, amare,gallo, chandler, toney dug, maybe we can bring back lee, thats an ubelievable team

  12. Zack - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:15 PM

    “he’s a F/C at 6’10 that can’t even manage 7 rebounds a game.”
    Yeah, not like he averages 8.9 for his career.

  13. Em WEzzy - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM

    I really hope they signed Amare to be center becuase eI want David Lee back. First thing is first, Amare never played for a coached that emphasis defense!! Mike D’Anotni I will say it again is the most overrated coach in basketball. Hasn’t he heard that defense wins CHAMPIONSHIPS!!! As a Knicks fan they have to get rid of him and hire Mark Jackson or someone who’s priority s defense. New Yorkers are not accustomed to run and gun 7 seconds system. By the Way I agree Dwyane Wade is way better than LeBron James. Compare Wade’s 06 team to LeBon’s 09 team I would of said LeBron’s 09 has a better chance to win but once again LeBron came up short….

  14. MKRob Sports - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM

    You must be crazy dude. Amare is a max player, no questions asked.

  15. chris - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:33 PM

    amare doe not want to play center first of all…2nd all whio ever said htis team with amare is better than orlando or atlanta is on crack….playoff is about teams that can get stops …he knicks just signed a guy that does not stop his man. Funny how lamar Odom and gaasol Ate him up on the offensive side of the ball but were taken aaway by the celts aatitmes in the finals. y the way teh last game a close out game …Amare 3 rebs ?…Beast …he doesnt have it to stop his man but his shooting hand never gets tired . Lamar Odom Owneed him in games

  16. MarcusIsGonnaBringSomeCommonSenseHere - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:37 PM

    two things one @JAY Right On It could still fail and two, Amare Stoudemire is a poor defensive player so is this a mistake

  17. the_real_chris_bosh - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM

    Amare ain’t got nothing on me!!!
    Miami here we go!!

  18. GetaClue - Jul 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM

    Here’s a whacked out idea: after Amar’e signs, max Lee and trade him to the Wiz for Arenas. Too bad Joe Johnson’s off the market since he would be an ideal third guy to resurrect 7 sec

  19. Andy - Jul 2, 2010 at 4:04 PM

    I’ve lived in Phx for 30 years and have been a huge Suns fan since the beginning. Let me tell you this: Amare is NOT a max player, not even close. Amare did not make Nash better, that’s halarious. Nash earned MVP the year Amare spent on the bench because of his knee. Amare was in the dumps 1st half this season and when he was benched in the 4th Q of the Dallas game, then he turned it on, realizing he had half a season left in his contract year to make himself look good. But when the playoffs came, he was back to the old Amare. Score lots of points, and let the other team score even more against you. He has NO hussle and NO heart. On the defensive end he stands and watches players blow by him, hoping the ball is passed back to him after they score. He puts NO effort into the defensive end. Here in Phx he has been criticized about this for 5 seasons now, and he’s done nothing about it. Instead he developed a 15 ft jump shot. Go figure, scoring points is what makes franchises pay money, so that’s what he works on. And he’s a cry baby. When D’Antoni was here, it was his fault. When Porter was here, it was Porter’s fault. Now Gentry he won’t critisize cause they’re friends. Instead this year complained saying he’s carrying the team and isn’t getting help. GOOD RIDENS AMARE. And I apologize to NY fans cause you are going to have another 5 bad seasons in front of you. The new Brookly team will be playoff bound before the Knicks are…

  20. SunsFan - Jul 2, 2010 at 4:29 PM

    Hahahahahaha ….. I live in Phoenix, love the Suns, and I’ve seen nearly every game Amar’e’s played since we drafted him. He’s been working on his defense and rebounding every summer since we drafted him. D’antoni couldn’t fix it, Terry Porter couldn’t fix it, Alvin Gentry couldn’t fix it. Please remember, 3 years from now, when Amar’e needs another microfracture knee surgery, and he still isn’t rebounding, or hustling, or playing defense, and you owe him some $30 million +, you were warned!

  21. suki - Jul 2, 2010 at 4:31 PM

    Amare is definitely not a max player and I’ll be glad to see him leave Phx so the Suns can get somebody with a better attitude and better game.

  22. Walter Rubin - Jul 2, 2010 at 5:32 PM

    Leave it to the hapless Knicks. Always signing injured players who can’t play defense anyway. Reminds me of the trade they made for Antonio McDyss and Curry and the Hornets big guy years ago.
    The guy has questionable knees and can’t rebound a lick. They’d better keep Lee.

  23. Ben T - Jul 2, 2010 at 6:00 PM

    He’s definitely not a terrible player and it’s not that he can’t play defense, he just usually doesn’t want to. The thing is, how can you justify paying someone max money when they might just not show up for your biggest games? I mean, those 20 rebound games against the Kings are nice and all, but that doesn’t really help you when you’re playing the Lakers.
    If you don’t realize that he’s likely to have entire games where he’s just not really with it emotionally then you didn’t watch the Western Conference Finals. I mean serious, try boxing out your man once a quarter please?
    As a Suns fan, I’m both happy and sad. Sad because this next year will be tougher, but happy because three years from now we’ll be much better off not having $20M a season sunk into the guy.

  24. Anonymous - Jul 2, 2010 at 6:32 PM

    spell check

  25. Fred Groenke - Jul 2, 2010 at 7:12 PM

    Rest assured that when Amare gets to NY his numbers will fall.Nash isn’t there and Dantoni never demanded that he rebound or play defense. The Big Apple just bought the Pig in the Poke.

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