Skip to content

Knicks "Plan B" of Johnson/Stoudemire fast becoming "Plan A"

Jun 28, 2010, 10:10 AM EDT

Thumbnail image for stoudemire.pngThe Knicks will be in Cleveland on Thursday afternoon, making their pitch to LeBron James — you can be the biggest star on the biggest stage. We can bring in another star with you. There is nothing like winning in New York.

But hours before they do that, they will be pitching Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudemire on reuniting with Mike D’Antoni in New York, according to Alan Hahn at Newsday.

They will meet with Johnson and Stoudemire on Wednesday night in Los Angeles, just minutes after the free agency period begins, then fly overnight to Cleveland, he reports.

For years, LeBron has been the Plan A in New York. Problem is, if winning really matters to James, it’s a long shot. The Knicks have admirably cleared the decks of an endless stream of bad contracts and are ready to rebuild. But other teams are a lot closer to a title. A lot.

The Knicks realize this, and they are hedging their bets.

The Johnson/Stoudemire Plan B is not LeBron but it is not bad either. It would be the most talented Knicks team in a decade instantly. They would win some games, be entertaining, be respected and show the ship is turning around.

One little fly in the ointment — in Phoenix there was Steve Nash. He fed Stoudemire rolling to the rim and Johnson spotted up at the arc. New York doesn’t have Steve Nash or even a bad facsimile of him. The Knicks would need to find or trade for a free agent point guard who can run the show.

The other little problem — Stoudemire and Johnson could both stay where they are. Stoudemire and Suns owner Robert Sarver will meet this week, although Amare is largely expected to test the market. Johnson and the Hawks ownership will meet and if, as rumored, they offer him a maximum extension, that would be hard to turn down.

But the Knicks can’t focus on that, because they don’t want to go to Plan C.

  1. KnicksTweets - Jun 28, 2010 at 10:35 AM

    If the Knicks could sign both of these players and still have room for a 3rd, then great. That coupled with Eddy Curry’s expiring deal provides nice level of flexibility. But if these 2 get max deals…forget about it.
    Also important to remember there is a lot of posturing (and tampering) going on all over the place. We will only know what it is real when players sign their names on the dotted line.
    Get ready for the storm…
    KnicksTweets
    http://knickstweets.net

  2. KnicksTweets - Jun 28, 2010 at 10:37 AM

    If the Knicks could sign both of these players and still have room for a 3rd, then great. That coupled with Eddy Curry’s expiring deal provides nice level of flexibility. But if these 2 get max deals…forget about it.
    Also important to remember there is a lot of posturing (and tampering) going on all over the place. We will only know what it is real when players sign their names on the dotted line.
    Get ready for the storm…
    KnicksTweets
    http://knickstweets.net

  3. Mike - Jun 28, 2010 at 10:49 AM

    What if the Knicks traded with the Wolves Curry + Chandler for Al Jeffereson and Rubio?
    Lineup
    Rubio / Douglas
    JJ / Rautins
    Gallo / Landry
    Amare / ?
    Al / ?
    At this point that would be a top 4 team in the East (depending on what happens with the FA class…)

  4. Binder - Jun 28, 2010 at 11:10 AM

    Mike
    What if the Knicks traded with the Wolves Curry + Chandler for Al Jeffereson and Rubio?
    Lineup
    Rubio / Douglas
    JJ / Rautins
    Gallo / Landry
    Amare / ?
    Al / ?
    At this point that would be a top 4 team in the East (depending on what happens with the FA class…)
    3 – Mon Jun 28,2010 10:49 AM ET Reply
    ————
    Are you on crack? Even David Kahn isnt stupid enough to trade Big Al AND Rubio for…for…absolutely nothing.
    Rubio will be playing in MN or wont be playing in the NBA..the marketing department already has a ton of Rubio promotions waiting to be used once he gets here.
    And Big Al is worth a lot more than Curry/Chandler…the ACL injury takes at least a year to fully recover..he is a dominant offensive post player and is like only 25

  5. realist - Jun 28, 2010 at 11:14 AM

    Rubio will never step foot in Minnesota. I agree that Jefferson is worth more than Curry/Chandler…..but give up on the Rubio thing.

  6. Mike - Jun 28, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    Ok throw in a sign and trade with D-Lee…I think it might just fly
    Rubio is not coming to Minny, not a chance in hell that happens…
    If Kahn was going to take Zach Randolph for Al Jefferson, Chandler is not that far off…plus they just traded Gomes and really have a need at wing/SF…
    I think it is a better match then you think

  7. James - Jun 28, 2010 at 12:52 PM

    No way Rubio is coming. Love to have him but he is certainly staying in Europe for another year. If i were the knicks i would (sadly) give up on LeBron and go after joe johnson and amare. hopefully the knicks wont have to commit max money to them and then hopefully then the knicks could trade curry and chandler for gilbert arenas? if not now maybe at the February trade deadline if the wall/arenas experiment fails. hopefully…

  8. PTownPlayboy - Jun 28, 2010 at 1:06 PM

    The Knicks are doomed until they get rid of D’Antoni and his brand of sissy ball! It disgusts me as a lifelong Knick fan that we actually have had a team for the last few seasons that doesn’t believe in playing defense… As wishful as many Knicks fans have been, including myself, let’s be realistic! Just look at the score of the last game of the season vs. Toronto… we gave up 131 pts… we probably gave up 120-140pts 10-15 games this past year. You don’t win in the NBA playing defense like that! Not to mention a 7 seconds or less offense is garbage, good offense is passing the ball, and not all this 1 on 1, jacking the ball up in 7 seconds from the time you inbound. D’Antoni only plays a 6-7 man rotation, which is ridiculous considering how tired & fatigued you would get, plus it limits you if you get into foul trouble. The Knicks need to “COMPLETELY” rebuild, and that starts off with management/coaching & and philosophy! They will more than likely land Amare & Joe Johnson… so basically they will be another Phoenix Suns run & gun team who gets their ass whooped in the 1st round of the playoffs

  9. Mike - Jun 28, 2010 at 1:50 PM

    James: Apparently Arenas might be going to Orlando
    PTown: I could not agree more, but not sure who the Knicks could even get who could fill that role…not many players today in the mold of John Starks and Charles Oakley…even the “best” defensive players are primarily quick players who get steals…with the excpetion of Lebron and D-Howard…
    I feel like the game has changed and defense is not what it was. This has become a scorers league and few players last in the league with that hard nose mentality…

  10. Ray - Jun 28, 2010 at 2:16 PM

    “The Knicks are doomed until they get rid of D’Antoni and his brand of sissy ball!”
    Yeah, that’s what the problem is. It’s the coach’s fault when he has no players with discernible talent.

  11. scot - Jun 28, 2010 at 2:51 PM

    iI miss the days of hard nose basketball, lets get rid of all of this calling every time down the court. and play real basketball not sissyball.

  12. Matt - Jun 28, 2010 at 9:50 PM

    Trading Curry/Chandler for Arenas is very fair but in order for the Knicks to get 2 max deals, the Wizards would have to eat a lot of the contract which they are hoping not to do. I am a Wizards fan and am on the side of dump him for nothing if the contract goes with him.

  13. Matt - Jun 28, 2010 at 9:57 PM

    D’Antoni has coached 6 full NBA seasons. Of the four with the Suns he lost 2 conference finals, a conference semifinal and a first round loss. The only times he missed the playadapt offs were with an NBDL roster in New York.

  14. kulture - Jun 28, 2010 at 10:07 PM

    The 1st thing the knicks need to do is get rid of mike d and his silly system 2nd sign david lee your crazy to let 20 and 10 walk away when he has proven himself. Let’s look at building a real team with a solid coach say Byron Scott he would be able to motivate he mite even get some use out of curry and then by the feb trade deadline he could have some real value. Free agency additions should focus on joe johnson. Save the rest and coach what you have next year mello could be on the market. But first thing first get rid of mike d.

  15. dman4real - Jun 28, 2010 at 10:33 PM

    the knicks had a plan when they hired walsh and dantoni now that plan should come to surface remember we had guys who knew they had no chance of coming back so the desire was not there to win now guys know there going to be arround and have something to play for regardless what happens their hadded in the right direction go knicks

Leave Comment

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!

Featured video

What players stood out at World Cup?
Top 10 NBA Player Searches
  1. R. Rondo (2894)
  2. E. Bledsoe (2821)
  3. K. Bryant (2415)
  4. L. James (2349)
  5. D. Rose (2030)
  1. R. Allen (1898)
  2. N. Young (1778)
  3. K. Irving (1622)
  4. B. Jennings (1620)
  5. J. Hickson (1618)