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NBA Finals, Lakers Celtics: ProBasketballTalks' prediction post

Jun 3, 2010, 3:13 PM EDT

Laker_Celtics_logos.pngApparently nobody in Boston will be buying the team on this blog a beer next time we visit. They’ll be all too happy to serve us crow, however.

We’ve decided to put our predictions out there, to make them official and public and all that. And for possibly the first time ever (well, outside of wondering if Marco Jaric scored over his head with his wife) we all agree on something.

Kurt Helin: Lakers in 7. I believe in the Celtics. Now. I didn’t for the last two rounds. I thought it a fluke, and I was wrong. They are for real. They are back and playing defense like beasts again. And they are still going to lose this. Barely, but lose. I’ll take the Lakers because of home court (their role players just are more comfortable in Staples Center), having Andrew Bynum (even in his limited condition) which will open things up for Pau Gasol, and in the end Kobe Bryant remains the best player on the court, and he happens to be playing his best ball.

Matt Moore: Lakers in 6. They’ve beaten Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, and Steve Nash. Can they beat Rajon Rondo? They’ve beaten Jeff Green, Carlos Boozer, and Amar’e Stoudemire. Can they beat Kevin Garnett? They’ve beaten Kevin Durant, Andrei Kirilenko, and Grant Hill. Can they beat Paul Pierce? They’ve beaten Scott Brooks, Jerry Sloan, and Alvin Gentry. Can they beat Doc Rivers? They can because of three little letters. TMT. Too Much Talent.

Rob Mahoney: Lakers in 7. I’ve spent the last few days trying to convince myself that the Celtics will take this thing, but they won’t. They can, but they won’t. Kobe Bryant is simply operating on a different plane of existence, in which defenders seem to be challenging his shots, but fail to contest the ethereal. Behind him are a number of talented players that can’t all be negated; maybe the Celtics can take away Bynum’s impact, but not Gasol’s, maybe they can take away Odom’s impact, but not Artest’s. Boston may have upset Orlando by proving how delicate the Magic’s offense really was, but L.A.’s attack is far too balanced to crumble under the Celtics’ defensive pressure. It’s been fun, Boston, but it’s time to go home.

John Krolik: Lakers in 6. The Celtics should be a much tougher test for the Lakers than either the Jazz or the Suns were, simply because of the way Boston plays defense. Remember how the Lakers looked vulnerable against the Thunder, even though the Thunder struggled to score for most of the series? Well, the Celtics are a whole lot better defensively than the Thunder are. They don’t have a Sefolosha or a Durant to slow down Kobe on the perimeter, but they’re capable of guarding that massive Laker frontline. That has the potential to change everything — expect this Laker team to have some very rough stretches over the course of this series. Ultimately, though, fatigue and that 2-3-2 format are going to be too much for Boston to overcome. Boston hasn’t been consistent enough at home for me to think they can win three in a row in Boston, and I don’t see any team winning two out of seven games at Staples. The Lakers will get tested, but I think they’ll pass with flying colors.

  1. Professoressa - Jun 3, 2010 at 4:02 PM

    Definitely Lakers in 6. Maybe 7 is Paul Pierce pulls another Willis Reed.

  2. Don - Jun 3, 2010 at 4:23 PM

    Kirilenko didn’t play in the Utah series.

  3. Drew - Jun 3, 2010 at 4:48 PM

    Kirilenko had a neglible impact after missing several weeks and then jumping in Game 3 of the series. In any event, writers love getting into all these individual matchups and comparisons at every position. Yeah, they beat Steve Nash, but he torched the Lakers. Yeah, they beat Deron Williams, but he was the most effective player on the Jazz. Amare Stoudemire turned in a pretty good series. At the end of the day, who cares? It’s about team matchups. It’s the team matchup the Celtics cause problems for the Lakers.
    All of these comparisons are silly. They didn’t have Artest in ’08. Fine, but Rajon Rondo was also a non-factor in ’08. The Celtics don’t have James Posey. Fine, they play defense by committee. The Celtics had homecourt advantage in ’08. Fine, but their road record is better than their home record this season. Matt Moore’s logic is ridiculous.
    I am going against the Laker bandwagon and am taking the Celtics in 6.
    If the Lakers win, I think John Krolik’s analysis is the most convincing.

  4. Rob - Jun 3, 2010 at 5:11 PM

    I love this.
    That was the exact consenses before the Clevland series.

  5. Drew - Jun 3, 2010 at 6:06 PM

    It’s funny after beating Orlando (who pummelled two previous opponents), Orlando’s offense is “delicate” according to Rob Mahoney. Orlando’s offense is exactly as it was during the regular season and last post-season: Dwight Howard inside, Jameer Nelson in pick ‘n rolls and a bevy of three-point shooters. Boston was just really good at covering the three-point line and holding their own against Howard one-on-one.
    The entire Lakers’ offense runs through Kobe or Gasol. The Lakers’ offense is “delicate” too if you can get Gasol out of his comfort zone and make Kobe a volume shooter. All of their role players feed off their activity. Nobody else on the Lakers creates their own shot.
    L.A. can certainly win this series for a lot of reasons, but the reasons these writers give don’t make any sense. Lebron was the best player on the floor in the Cleveland series. You’re gonna use the Kobe-is-the-best-player-on-the-floor argument in this series??
    If L.A. wins, it’s because Bynum holds up, they use their frontline effectively, and their team chemistry and toughness is superior to Boston’s.

  6. Omnius - Jun 3, 2010 at 6:38 PM

    Lakers in 6 games though 5 would be sweeter to watch as the Lakers could wipe away that ugly feeling from two years ago watching the Celts get the title on their home floor. The Lakers didn’t hit their playoff speed until game 5 of the Thunder series. Nope Air Kobe is just too great to be stopped this year now that he’s found the bounce in his step and his shooting eye is deadly once again. The Ancient Celtics just won’t be able to keep up with the Lakers height and speed over a series. As long as Bynum can play the Lakers Bigs will keep the Boston Bigs in foul trouble.

  7. Brad - Jun 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM

    loll…orlando wasnt the same team without turkaloo…and comparing kobe to lebron is silly…one has 4 rings..the other has 0 rings….cleveland was overrated all year long…steve nash torched the lakers because we let him…we let him score but shut down ths other players…the suns are sitting at home watching…i will be at the laker parade next week when we win game 6 at home…cant wait to attend my 10th parade in downtown los angeles..besides…werent all the experts at the beginning of the season saying the spurs would beat the lakers…bahhhahhhhahhhaa

  8. Dave G. - Jun 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM

    Thought Kurt,Matt,Rob and John were paid to do this? And they STILL get it wrong????
    Kobe’s old, Fisher’s old,Gasol is softer than butter.
    The entire Celtics roster man to man is better including the bench.
    Use a little horseradish sauce with that crow!

  9. Dave G. - Jun 3, 2010 at 7:11 PM

    Unless of course, Stern wants a rubber match series next year between the two.
    Boston’s speed will be too much for an old,slow team like the Lakers. Boston through better teams like Miami, Cleveland and Orlando, while LA had issues with OK City and Phoenix.
    Boston will improve to 10-2 against the Lakers in the Finals.

  10. Dave G. - Jun 3, 2010 at 7:12 PM

    Unless of course, Stern wants a rubber match series next year between the two.
    Boston’s speed will be too much for an old,slow team like the Lakers. Boston rolled through better teams like Miami, Cleveland and Orlando, while LA had issues with OK City and Phoenix.
    Boston will improve to 10-2 against the Lakers in the Finals.

  11. naPS - Jun 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM

    Is Dave G. high? You must have some bad reefer out there in bean-town if you think the Lakers are old. They’re spring chickens compared to the Celtics.

  12. dAVID - Jun 3, 2010 at 7:37 PM

    this is not Cleveland though… REMEMBER that…..

  13. Bob Blake - Jun 3, 2010 at 7:48 PM

    DEFENSE
    Worked in the past….and will work now.

  14. auntiemamma - Jun 3, 2010 at 9:04 PM

    already disappointed in the crowd noise. where the real laker fans at!!!!!!!!!!!not at staples that’s for sure. you should not be able to hear in there

  15. luffy - Jun 3, 2010 at 9:20 PM

    Kobe is old, Fisher is old? are you kidding me?
    Kobe is only 31 dude…
    And KG is what? Near death?

  16. Lakers Fan - Jun 11, 2010 at 8:24 PM

    Both teams play great basketball but the Lakers have an edge. The big difference is that the Lakers don’t act like a bunch of idiotic barbarians when they make a good play or making a basket with a foul attached. (pun intended) The one quality I appreciate about the Lakers is that they are humble, poised players. Not to mention that Doc Rivers, a major hater, called Derek Fisher a flopper. Before he makes more bone-headed comments, maybe he should take a look at Derek’s history with the Lakers. He’s known for making game winning shots, multiple times. Maybe Doc needs to re-evaluate his bench players before calling out Derek. (with that being said, I meant evaluate more than 1 exceptional game). Phil Jackson is a much better coach, case in point, his leadership of the Bulls years back, and now with the Lakers.
    Bottom line is class and poise go a long way. Celtics and their fans can take note from the Lakers and their fans!

  17. me - Jun 15, 2010 at 7:09 AM

    See you at the Duck Boats, duck head.

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